Debeau Performance

[The Daddy]

Debeau Performance, a new sportswear apparel company owned by Derek Beaumont is now sponsoring Leigh Leopards. 

I actually think this a brilliant idea and I love the innovation and the fact that RL clubs/owners are branching out and looking to bring in income from outside the sport like aussie league clubs. 

My only question is, are funds provided to Leigh via Debeau counted as profit/turnover in the IMG gradings?

 

 

[gingerjon]

If only this was being discussed elsewhere on here 

[The Daddy]

1 minute ago, gingerjon said:

If only this was being discussed elsewhere on here 

Where is it being discussed? Had a look around and couldn't find it

[Eddie]

1 minute ago, The Daddy said:

Where is it being discussed? Had a look around and couldn't find it

On pretty much every thread, sadly. 

[The Daddy]

Ok I see it's on the 2026 kit thread. I never read the kit threads.

@John Drake Please could you lock or merge this thread? 

[thecoffeeman]

To be fair to the bloke, he'll know the deal inside and out, so there won't be much risk for him. 

Having been involved in several of these deals, they are relatively stable, so he'll know how much stock to order, what sizing, so on, so forth. 

However. It's very rugby league isn't it? A deal with a larger organisation may be slightly smaller in terms of revenue, but would bring wider benefits and more sales elsewhere via wider distribution channels,

Would be interesting to know how it's funded - there is a lot of up front cost in deals like these.

But great to see that they have got their social media team right behind the launch, 

[thecoffeeman]

13 minutes ago, Eddie said:

On pretty much every thread, sadly. 

I'd leave it here - I have no intention of going into a far flung corner of the internet to read things, so I, like others, would have probably missed it if it was elsewhere. 

[ricky]

4 minutes ago, thecoffeeman said:

I have no intention of going into a far flung corner of the internet to read things

This isn't a far-flung corner of the internet?

[thecoffeeman]

9 minutes ago, ricky said:

This isn't a far-flung corner of the internet?

Ha ha, maybe not. But the kit thread is for me. 

[JohnM]

So Beaumont is sponsoring Beaumont? Obviously, that's why he was in China recently - to set up a TEMU shopfront. 

[Harry Stottle]

On 01/11/2025 at 13:48, thecoffeeman said:

Ha ha, maybe not. But the kit thread is for me. 

I have hardly ever looked at the kit thread and it amazes me how many posts and pages it generates. 

[gingerjon]

18 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

I have hardly ever looked at the kit thread and it amazes me how many posts and pages it generates. 

I feel the same about the Transfer Tracker.

Be a shame if everyone was the same.

[The Daddy]

3 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

I have hardly ever looked at the kit thread and it amazes me how many posts and pages it generates. 

I never look at the kit threads coz I don't have an interest in reading about kits 

[Harry Stottle]

1 hour ago, The Daddy said:

I never look at the kit threads coz I don't have an interest in reading about kits 

I see we have another riveting thread, very much - literally attached - to the kits with the logos thread.

[LeytherRob]

On 01/11/2025 at 13:08, The Daddy said:

Debeau Performance, a new sportswear apparel company owned by Derek Beaumont is now sponsoring Leigh Leopards. 

I actually think this a brilliant idea and I love the innovation and the fact that RL clubs/owners are branching out and looking to bring in income from outside the sport like aussie league clubs. 

My only question is, are funds provided to Leigh via Debeau counted as profit/turnover in the IMG gradings?

 

 

To answer your question, yes, but it's no different to the current status quo where owners will write off director loans as sponsorship to manipulate the finance pillar - DB previously with AB sundeck sponsorship, Matt Ellis with DIY kitchen sponsorship etc. 

[The Daddy]

5 minutes ago, LeytherRob said:

To answer your question, yes, but it's no different to the current status quo where owners will write off director loans as sponsorship to manipulate the finance pillar - DB previously with AB sundeck sponsorship, Matt Ellis with DIY kitchen sponsorship etc. 

That's not good then and it highlights the flaws with the IMG gradings process

[Chrispmartha]

40 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

I see we have another riveting thread, very much - literally attached - to the kits with the logos thread.

Strange thing to have an issue over to be honest. Talking about new kits and logos for RL teams seems a perfectly normal thing to do?

[LeytherRob]

7 minutes ago, The Daddy said:

That's not good then and it highlights the flaws with the IMG gradings process

Yes, but this isn't new, DB openly pointed out the flaws a couple of years back and told everyone exactly what he was going to do. Going back to the thread topic, the kit manufacturing venture isn't about masking donations to the club, it's about building a business that will ease the clubs reliance on DB. That 6-figure sponsorship will be coming from the margins that Sports Hub Group(Reebok/Patrick) were taking for their cut. 

[phiggins]

15 minutes ago, The Daddy said:

That's not good then and it highlights the flaws with the IMG gradings process

The flaws with the IMG gradings process were highlighted over a year ago when Derek Beaumont openly announced that he would be converting loans to sponsorship to boost Leigh's score. At least this has more of a tangible transaction associated with it.

[Griff]

15 minutes ago, phiggins said:

The flaws with the IMG gradings process were highlighted over a year ago when Derek Beaumont openly announced that he would be converting loans to sponsorship to boost Leigh's score. 

What's wrong with that?

Leigh owed Derek money, now they don't.  Leigh have benefited.

Sure, Derek could pay a sponsorship bill to Leigh and then Leigh could send him the money back as repayment, in whole or part, of his loan.   Comes to the same thing but would that make you happier ?

[phiggins]

15 minutes ago, Griff said:

What's wrong with that?

Leigh owed Derek money, now they don't.  Leigh have benefited.

Sure, Derek could pay a sponsorship bill to Leigh and then Leigh could send him the money back as repayment, in whole or part, of his loan.   Comes to the same thing but would that make you happier ?

In context of this conversation, I don't think this partnership exposes any loopholes, gaming of the system or whatever you want to call it, that hasn't been laid out in plain sight in the past.

To be honest, there's one club that has completely undermined the finance scoring of the grading system this year, and it wasn't Leigh.

[LeytherRob]

Whilst this is a thread on Debeau in general, it's worth pointing out for those that weren't already aware that this move was also made earlier this year for the matchday pyrotechnics, rather than renting from third parties, Debeau FX just purchased all the gear to provide favourable rates to Leigh (saves money) and also rents it out to other clubs/events (makes money). The plan will be the same for the kit, get a few champ clubs on board and any margins made just further reduce DB's net spend into the game, increasing the sustainability for him.

Edited November 3 by LeytherRob

[hindle xiii]

7 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

I have hardly ever looked at the kit thread and it amazes me how many posts and pages it generates. 

You should have seen what we said about the Leopards re-brand.

[thecoffeeman]

1 hour ago, LeytherRob said:

...That 6-figure sponsorship will be coming from the margins that Sports Hub Group(Reebok/Patrick) were taking for their cut. 

Fascinating. Are we saying that Sports Hub Group took more than £100,000 from the deal previously? 

[thecoffeeman]

35 minutes ago, LeytherRob said:

Whilst this is a thread on Debeau in general, it's worth pointing out for those that weren't already aware that this move was also made earlier this year for the matchday pyrotechnics, rather than renting from third parties, Debeau FX just purchased all the gear to provide favourable rates to Leigh (saves money) and also rents it out to other clubs/events (makes money). The plan will be the same for the kit, get a few champ clubs on board and any margins made just further reduce DB's net spend into the game, increasing the sustainability for him.

Again. Fascinating. Does all the cash he makes from this go to Leigh?