Bedford Roughyed Posted January 14 Posted January 14 2 1 1 With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!
dkw Posted January 14 Posted January 14 (edited) Yay! Wait, does that mean the "Eternal Review crew" have actually managed to complete a review, well consider my gast well and truly flabbered. Edited January 14 by dkw 8 1
Tommygilf Posted January 14 Posted January 14 10 minutes ago, dkw said: Yay! Wait, does that mean the "Eternal Review crew" have actually managed to complete a review, well consider my gast well and truly flabbered. The review is ongoing and will maintain ongoing reviews 3
hunsletgreenandgold Posted January 14 Posted January 14 (edited) The right decision. Ultimately he failed in the biggest 2 competitions he was head coach for. Edited January 14 by hunsletgreenandgold 4
Dave T Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Just now, hunsletgreenandgold said: The right decision. Ultimately he failed in the biggest 2 competition he was head coach for. Yes. I thought we played pretty well in 2022, however some of his selections were odd even in that semi final that we lost to Samoa and he has to take a lot of responsibility. I didn't like his approach in the Ashes at all, he looked very very dated. 8
Damien Posted January 14 Posted January 14 I wonder if the RFL have bowed to the public on this despite what they said previously. I can't imagine Wane leaving of his own accord. 1
Tommygilf Posted January 14 Posted January 14 In all seriousness, I think this had to happen. He had a home World Cup with the easiest draw possible for England and bombed it, and possibly should have been sacked after that. 2 relatively successful tours hosting Tonga and Samoa. The Ashes were a complete lead balloon from an England perspective. The Aussies even did community engagement better than us. 4
Tommygilf Posted January 14 Posted January 14 The only thing I thought that might save him would be the lack of prep any coach here would have for the WC in 2026. Perhaps the lack of prep for most teams though have swayed the RFL from this. I think if he had been able to lead a tour in the intervening years too we may have a better opportunity to judge, however he did not. I appreciate that is a decision above the level of Shaun Wane though.
hunsletgreenandgold Posted January 14 Posted January 14 So who's next? There's no denying it's an incredibly difficult task for whoever comes in, it would've been for Wane too, without any fixtures announced leading into a World Cup down under. I fear they'll go 'safe' and have McNamara come in and do it, essentially part-time. 1
Click Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Ah, this is great news - I might even consider going to Australia for the WC now.
sam4731 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 27 minutes ago, dkw said: Yay! Wait, does that mean the "Eternal Review crew" have actually managed to complete a review, well consider my gast well and truly flabbered. Now we can have a review into why this review was successful and a further review into how we can implement successful reviews into further reviews. 1 2
Chrispmartha Posted January 14 Posted January 14 13 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: In all seriousness, I think this had to happen. He had a home World Cup with the easiest draw possible for England and bombed it, and possibly should have been sacked after that. 2 relatively successful tours hosting Tonga and Samoa. The Ashes were a complete lead balloon from an England perspective. The Aussies even did community engagement better than us. The recent Ashes tour was one of the biggest missed opportunities we have had internationally, the other one was the World Cup. I absolutely loved the Ashes, but that was mostly down to how the Australians conducted themselves, which really shouldn't be the case. On the field we were an absolute flop. Winston Churchills (SIC) didn't help us much. 6
WN83 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 A bit later than Matt Shaw was saying pre Christmas but I do agree with the call. We will see how we go now under a new man. It won't be easy for whoever that ends up being, with there being next to no opportunity to get their hands on the players pre World Cup. As for Wanes time, there were ups and downs but when you promise a lot, you need to deliver and in the biggest games, he's not been able to do that. I do wonder if his time might be looked at a bit differently in 3 or 4 years, if this next period goes badly but lets hope that isn't the case.
Dunbar Posted January 14 Posted January 14 I agree it is the right decision. For the World Cup mostly. The draw was designed to get England to the final without facing a tier 1 side and we didn't get there. We were ok in the Samoa and Tonga series but lacked any kind of creativity against the Kangaroos. A fresh start is what is needed. 1 "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris
hunsletgreenandgold Posted January 14 Posted January 14 (edited) Official release https://www.rugby-league.com/article/64481/shaun-wane-steps-aside-as-england-head-coach 'Part-time position' - my fears may well come to pass. Edited January 14 by hunsletgreenandgold 2 1 1
Leyther_Matt Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Should have gone before the floodlights were turned off at Headingley A part-time replacement may suggest Rowley, although personally I’d rather it was a full-time position (occupied by Rowls, as it happens) 1
Tommygilf Posted January 14 Posted January 14 1 minute ago, Leyther_Matt said: Should have gone before the floodlights were turned off at Headingley A part-time replacement may suggest Rowley, although personally I’d rather it was a full-time position (occupied by Rowls, as it happens) Could you even see Willie Peters being involved. Treble winner, international assistant in Aus. I'd also be looking at the English assistant coaches based down under like McDermott and Agar to be involved. 4
Leyther_Matt Posted January 14 Posted January 14 1 minute ago, Tommygilf said: Could you even see Willie Peters being involved. Treble winner, international assistant in Aus. I'd also be looking at the English assistant coaches based down under like McDermott and Agar to be involved. Would certainly be a good idea to have feet on the ground in both SL and the NRL 1
hunsletgreenandgold Posted January 14 Posted January 14 Just now, Tommygilf said: Could you even see Willie Peters being involved. Treble winner, international assistant in Aus. I'd also be looking at the English assistant coaches based down under like McDermott and Agar to be involved. Willy Peters would be my choice. Best coach currently in SL IMO and obviously has a great depth of knowledge of the NRL and it's players. 3
dkw Posted January 14 Posted January 14 9 minutes ago, Eddie said: I’ve just seen John Kear at the Esso by the RFL HQ Does he claim hes elvis? 2
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