Damien Posted May 20 Posted May 20 I think this makes sense and is a much more manageable figure for all.
Charlie Posted May 20 Posted May 20 Spoke to a friend who plays in this level and he reckons a lot of the older players will retire as it’s not worth it for the money and I don’t think he’s wrong
The Future is League Posted May 20 Posted May 20 1 hour ago, Charlie said: Spoke to a friend who plays in this level and he reckons a lot of the older players will retire as it’s not worth it for the money and I don’t think he’s wrong A chance to blood young British players 1
Spidey Posted May 20 Author Posted May 20 1 hour ago, Damien said: I think this makes sense and is a much more manageable figure for all. Should make things more even, it would however have stopped London on what they've done this year. It'll be interesting if London replace anybody next year on how the relegated club will transition to such a lower cap straight away
Damien Posted May 20 Posted May 20 14 minutes ago, Spidey said: Should make things more even, it would however have stopped London on what they've done this year. It'll be interesting if London replace anybody next year on how the relegated club will transition to such a lower cap straight away I think a more sensible discussion needs to be had around cashed up clubs like London (and previously Leigh etc), who would walk the Championship whether there is a salary cap in place or not, and whether the charade of winning the Championship (or getting enough IMG) adds anything. 3
yipyee Posted May 20 Posted May 20 So a relegated club cannot keep the same squad, what happens to contracted players?
Click Posted May 20 Posted May 20 3 minutes ago, yipyee said: So a relegated club cannot keep the same squad, what happens to contracted players? They have to find contracts at a different club or renegotiate their contracts to remain in the championship with their current club - like what happens most times a club has been relegated.
The Future is League Posted May 20 Posted May 20 6 minutes ago, yipyee said: So a relegated club cannot keep the same squad, what happens to contracted players? Simple really. Just have Super League contracts for players, and they won't be applicable if a club gets relegated, or if a club goes into liquidation. 1
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted May 20 Posted May 20 18 minutes ago, yipyee said: So a relegated club cannot keep the same squad, what happens to contracted players? Since the first couple of years of SL when relegated clubs became financial basket cases through having to honour contracts, all SL player contracts now have a clause that makes them null and void should their Club be 'relegated'. 1
Rene_Artois Posted May 20 Posted May 20 It's ridiculous. How is it possible to operate with a 25 man squad on that? Waited for London to go up then lifted the drawbridge.
Gav Wilson Posted May 20 Posted May 20 1 minute ago, Rene_Artois said: It's ridiculous. How is it possible to operate with a 25 man squad on that? Waited for London to go up then lifted the drawbridge. The clubs themselves asked for this, no? 1 @GavWilson
Rene_Artois Posted May 20 Posted May 20 Just now, Gav Wilson said: The clubs themselves asked for this, no? I hope ours haven't
OriginalMrC Posted May 20 Posted May 20 This will be quite a big change for a number of clubs who will need to drop down to £250k based on revenue. It's sensible but will increase the already widening gap between Champ and Superleague
Gav Wilson Posted May 20 Posted May 20 1 minute ago, Rene_Artois said: I hope ours haven't I would expect Donny to be at the higher end of the scale anyway. 1 @GavWilson
Rene_Artois Posted May 20 Posted May 20 Just now, OriginalMrC said: This will be quite a big change for a number of clubs who will need to drop down to £250k based on revenue. It's sensible but will increase the already widening gap between Champ and Superleague Wonder what is defined as revenue?
OriginalMrC Posted May 20 Posted May 20 To add I am not sure this is good for players who will almost certainly all be shunted onto pay as you play contracts. Putting your body on the line without guaranteed income is a lot to ask of younger up and coming players or experienced players in their later years. 4 1
OriginalMrC Posted May 20 Posted May 20 2 minutes ago, Rene_Artois said: Wonder what is defined as revenue? It's usually media+commercial+match day incomes. Going to be some creative accounting going on I am sure.
Archie Gordon Posted May 20 Posted May 20 A side effect is that this will also impact the Challenge Cup early rounds - already a tough ask for those outside SL - which will become completely pointless.
Spidey Posted May 20 Author Posted May 20 At this stage given the numbers quoted? It isn’t a merged Championship anymore, it’s a merged League One 2
gazza77 Posted May 20 Posted May 20 (edited) Worked well enough previously, until Leigh and Fev wanted it raising and then the middle 8s came in along with the SL cap for all. Was an entertaining and competitive league when the salary cap was c£400k back around 2010. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/championships-salary-cap-lowered Agree that you'll see some of the older & better paid players retire however. Edited May 20 by gazza77 Link added 1 .
OriginalMrC Posted May 20 Posted May 20 2 minutes ago, Spidey said: At this stage given the numbers quoted? It isn’t a merged Championship anymore, it’s a merged League One It's almost like it was the plan all along 1
LeeF Posted May 20 Posted May 20 6 minutes ago, Spidey said: At this stage given the numbers quoted? It isn’t a merged Championship anymore, it’s a merged League One And naturally generates a gap that is too large for any club to realistically bridge 2
Phil W Posted May 20 Posted May 20 It's going to create a bigger gap between Super League and the Championship. If anyone does come down it could well kill that club. Also for anyone with ambitions of Super League that gap will get bigger. I agree with the salary cap, maybe this turns the Championship into a Queensland Cup style competition.
Dunbar Posted May 20 Posted May 20 It is a small number. I want professional Rugby League players to earn more, goodness knows they earn it. But commercial realities kick in I guess. 1 "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris
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