Faxpanthers2025 Posted July 13 Posted July 13 (edited) Interesting to see some of the new board named on social media as an interested party in running the shay. One to ask at the fans forum in a couple of weeks. ***Future of The Shay: Council confirms three interested parties as stadium faces £500k annual deficit*** Calderdale Council has confirmed that three separate parties have come forward with expressions of interest in taking over the running of The Shay Stadium, following the collapse of a controversial sale to Huddersfield Giants owner Ken Davy. At this afternoon's first Cabinet meeting since May's local elections, Councillor Mike Payne, Cabinet Member for Corporate Services, Assets and Resources, set out the council's position on the stadium's future, revealing that the venue is currently operating without a defined budget and runs at an annual deficit of around £500,000. *Council committed to stadium's future* Councillor Payne made clear that the council is determined to secure a sustained future for The Shay and that there are no plans for the authority to withdraw from its operation. However, he acknowledged that the current level of expenditure is not viable without adequate resourcing, and that external investment is now being sought. The financial challenge facing the stadium comes against a backdrop of wider council budget pressures. Calderdale Council spent £7.9 million more than budgeted for in 2025-26, and further savings of £3.2 million in 2027-28 and £7.6 million in 2028-29 will need to be found to balance the books. *Three offers on the table – a closer look at the bidders* Following the collapse of the deal with Ken Davy, the council has received three expressions of interest. All three bidders have committed to retaining the stadium for sport and want to see it evolve into a community hub, believing the complex holds "immense potential". However, an investigation into their backgrounds reveals three distinctly different profiles. *Stewart and Beverley Charnock Bates: The local property veterans with a footballing past* Stewart Ian Charnock Bates is a chartered surveyor and the founder of Charnock Bates, an established estate agency and chartered surveying firm that has been operating for decades, specialising in country houses, listed buildings, and period homes across West Yorkshire. He is credited with "putting the area on the map for high-end property" and has successfully marketed Calderdale to buyers from outside the region, even opening a London Mayfair office to attract external investment. His connection to The Shay is deeply personal. Growing up in Calderdale, he signed for Halifax Town FC at the age of 18, though a football injury cut his playing career short. He later captained Warley Cricket Club in the 1980s. Professionally, he has a track record of restoring landmark local buildings, including the renovation of the Field House estate and the conversion of the derelict Drill Hall in Halifax into apartments. His wife and business partner, Beverley Charnock Bates, serves as a director and company secretary of their property consultancy firm, Bates UK Property Consultants Ltd. The pair are exploring a Community Asset Transfer and have successfully secured grant funding for sports projects in the past. *Tony Wood: The manufacturing heavyweight with a global supply chain* Tony Wood is a director of The Roxor Group, a significant British manufacturer of bathroom and home improvement products headquartered in Halifax. The group, which owns the nuie, Hudson Reed, and Asquiths brands, has been based in Halifax for over 30 years. Wood’s commercial footprint is substantial. His directorial portfolio shows he has been a director of 17 companies since 2000, with a combined turnover of approximately £189.6 million at one point. He currently serves as Chief Sourcing Officer, a role responsible for global manufacturing capability and strategic supply chains. His company’s local commitment is already visible at The Shay; the nuie brand is the current principal sponsor of FC Halifax Town’s away kits. Wood has previously stated that "supporting our local community is a key priority for us" and that they have been "proud supporters of FC Halifax Town from day one". He is also looking at establishing a community trust as part of his bid. *The Panthers Consortium: Directors with corporate ties* The third bid comes from a consortium of Halifax Panthers directors – John Coulter, Ben Walker, and Jaswat Chatha – who are proposing to operate as the Calderdale Community Stadium. They are already involved in operating Halifax Panthers, giving them first-hand experience of the stadium's day-to-day challenges. John Coulter, a former builder, is a director of Coulter Developments Limited, a dormant company based in Halifax, where he holds 75-100% of the shares. Benjamin Walker is listed as a director of the new Halifax Panthers club, while Jaswat Chatha is a director of J C Business Consultancy Limited and owner of Chathas network of local shops. *Next steps* Discussions so far have only been in principle. All interested parties will now be invited to submit full business cases. The council has asked for any further expressions of interest to be submitted by Sunday 2nd August on a specific template, available from the council. A four-week evaluation period will then follow, during which the council will assess the bids and seek further clarification. A report will be written on 3rd September, with a final decision expected at the 5th October Cabinet meeting. The Shay Stadium, home to both FC Halifax Town and Halifax Panthers, was designated as an Asset of Community Value in March 2024. The council had previously agreed to dispose of the stadium as part of budget-saving measures, but the new Reform-led administration made reviewing the sale one of its first priorities after taking control in May. Council Leader Dan Sutherland was particularly scathing in his comments about the proposed disposal they inherited from the previous Labour administration. He said: “I am sure the public will be pleased to see the new era of transparency within this council. We are fully open with our plans, who we are talking to and what the timeline is. “And also, having heard from many supporters who were concerned about the previous plan, which was to sell, and all the risks that came with it, hopefully they will be pleased that we are looking to retain ownership, which is a massive step change from the rather risky situation we faced.” he added. *Analysis: A promising step forward, but the devil lies in the detail* While significant financial hurdles remain, the council's approach to The Shay's future marks a notable departure from the closed-door negotiations that characterised the previous administration's planned disposal. For a local authority grappling with a £7.9 million overspend and millions more in required savings, the decision to pause, invite open expressions of interest, and retain public ownership of the freehold is a pragmatic and reassuring middle ground. Rather than rushing into a single, all-or-nothing sale, Calderdale Council has opted for transparency—publishing a clear timeline, naming the interested parties, and giving supporters and the wider public a window into a process that could have easily remained shrouded in confidentiality clauses. Crucially, by retaining the freehold, the council ensures that The Shay—a venue designated as an Asset of Community Value—remains in public hands. This safeguards the long-term sporting future of both FC Halifax Town and the Halifax Panthers, while still allowing external expertise and private capital to address the stadium's crippling £500,000 annual deficit. The ambition is clear: to transform a loss-making liability into a self-sustaining community hub that generates its own revenue through events, conferences, and commercial activity, without relying on perpetual council bailouts. The stadium complex undeniably holds immense potential, sitting as it does at the heart of Calderdale's sporting and cultural identity. However, the devil, as ever, will be in the detail. The full business cases, due for submission by 2nd August, must withstand rigorous financial scrutiny. The council's four-week evaluation period will need to probe not just balance sheets, but also governance structures. Yet, for now, the signs are promising. With three committed bidders offering distinctly different strengths—from property expertise and manufacturing heft to local retail and sporting directorship—and a council seemingly willing to listen, there is genuine hope that The Shay can finally realise its potential. If the right intentions, ambition, and vision prevail, this could mark the beginning of a new chapter: transforming a financial headache into a true asset for Calderdale, one that future generations can be proud of. Edited July 13 by Faxpanthers2025 1
Magicsponge Posted July 13 Posted July 13 Interesting..The Charnock Bates vision appeals most at this stage.Nuie sponsor Towns full kit range including the home shirt..
Faxpanthers2025 Posted August 3 Author Posted August 3 Bit of an update from today’s council meeting (via ‘Calderdale Council Watch’ on FB) ***The Shay: Three Bids Confirmed as Surprise Third Contender Emerges*** Cabinet members received an update this afternoon from Councillor Mike Payne on the future of The Shay, confirming that three bids were submitted ahead of Sunday's midnight deadline — but with one notable absence and one striking late entry. *Tony Wood Bid Fails to Materialise* In a surprise development, no submission was received from Tony Wood's Roxor Group, despite it having been publicly confirmed as one of the front-runners throughout the expressions-of-interest process. No explanation has yet been given for the withdrawal. *The Three Bids on the Table* Calderdale Community Stadium Consortium A consortium of three Halifax Panthers directors, this bid proposes a long-term lease with a phased operational transition. The vision is a genuine "seven-day destination" serving both FC Halifax Town and Halifax Panthers alongside the wider community, with plans to expand opportunities in sport, education, health and wellbeing. Stewart & Beverley Charnock-Bates As previously reported, the Charnock-Bates team has maintained its commitment to a Community Benefit Society (CBS) model, operating on a "one member, one vote" not-for-profit basis. The aim is to secure the stadium's long-term future through direct community governance, independent of any single club's interests, while embedding community benefit at the heart of how the Shay is run. Halifax FC Women (in partnership with a Dubai-based advisory group) The third bid, and the one likely to raise the most eyebrows, comes from Halifax FC Women, working in partnership with an advisory group based in Dubai. Their proposal envisages a long-term lease and would establish the Shay as a permanent home for women's football in the town, alongside development as a multi-purpose community hub, with ambitions spanning health, education and events programming. *How Cabinet Will Evaluate the Bids* Councillors Payne and Hunt will now lead a detailed review, supported by relevant council officers, examining each proposal against a consistent set of criteria: • Financial viability — whether the model can credibly close the stadium's operating deficit • Commitment to the tenant clubs — guaranteeing stability for both professional teams • Community engagement and access — ensuring the facility stays open to the wider public • Spectator experience — capital improvement plans and day-to-day operational quality All three bidding teams will be invited to present their plans in greater detail, so that decision-makers have full visibility of what's actually on the table before any recommendation is made. *Legal Mechanics and Transparency* Transparency remains a stated core principle of the process, and the legal terrain here is not straightforward. Because the disposal of public land and long-term lease arrangements carry strict statutory obligations — particularly Section 123 of the Local Government Act 1972, which governs the disposal of "open space" land, and the Asset of Community Value (ACV) framework, which restricts how the Shay can be sold or let while it remains community-designated — the Council has indicated that specialist external advice may be sought. This follows challenges raised during the process, and is intended to ensure all legal and technical considerations are properly understood before a final decision is taken. *Cllr Payne's Statement* Cllr Payne told the meeting: "The public and bidders should be aware that the process will be fair, accountable and focussed on the long-term outcome for Calderdale as a whole. The decision won't be about who operates the stadium, but who can provide a sustainable legacy for future generations." *Our View* Given how this issue was handled under the previous Labour administration, Reform's approach so far has been a marked change of tone — visibly more structured, and more explicit about transparency and due process. Whether that translates into a genuinely better outcome for the Shay and the community it serves remains to be seen, but the shift in approach is, for now, a welcome one. We'll be watching closely to see whether it continues in the same vein as bidders are invited to present their plans in the weeks ahead.
The Blues Ox Posted August 4 Posted August 4 Not exactly going as Town fans would have hoped when they hounded Ken Davy out of buying the stadium. 1
Faxpanthers2025 Posted August 4 Author Posted August 4 Council press release went out this afternoon but not loads new in it. Dubai bid sounds bizarre. https://news.calderdale.gov.uk/update-on-the-future-of-the-shay-stadium/?fbclid=IwdGRleATfB4ZwZG9mAWZkaWQWUL0BT4teiEl3dfl1p_61Hn5T_FmIDGV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkCjY2Mjg1NjgzNzkAAR73mxy6Qj-VbW5nDW6oQM-bBMd-AcC_snKWFbe5r0Q9K2E69ReUOJXJjeG4cA_aem_nBt483WbaVj8fQZT64RA0Q The Charnock bates interview in the courier was interesting I thought. Very fair points about how badly the ground has been run. https://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news/people/were-acting-for-the-community-of-calderdale-says-one-of-the-parties-hoping-to-take-over-running-of-the-shay-8818465
UpTheFax Posted August 5 Posted August 5 13 hours ago, The Blues Ox said: Not exactly going as Town fans would have hoped when they hounded Ken Davy out of buying the stadium. 3 bids, all wanting the leasehold rather than freehold? I think that is all they ever wanted. Unfortunately there isnt much information to form an opinion on the best option. Only the Charnock Bates bidders have given any sort of overview of their bid. I would say the Halifax FC Women bid is the one that concerns me most and the involvement of people in Dubai. As for our bid, I am not sure if we need the complication of running the Shay.
The Blues Ox Posted August 5 Posted August 5 15 minutes ago, UpTheFax said: 3 bids, all wanting the leasehold rather than freehold? I think that is all they ever wanted. Unfortunately there isnt much information to form an opinion on the best option. Only the Charnock Bates bidders have given any sort of overview of their bid. I would say the Halifax FC Women bid is the one that concerns me most and the involvement of people in Dubai. As for our bid, I am not sure if we need the complication of running the Shay. The FC Women bid is a strange one, I don't think they have much in the way of ties with Halifax Town, I'd rank that as the most worrying alongside the bid from the Rugby club. The Charnock Bates bid from what we have heard easily looks the best bid but as Rugby fans do we want Town supporters running the stadium as Fax will be very quickly out on their ear when the inevitable happens again and the club start to miss the rent payments.
Tony Fax Posted August 5 Posted August 5 Just glad Ken Davy is no longer in the picture, it just didn't make sense what he was up to. And if SL get a bad SKY deal with reduced funding, it will all be very chaotic. I see Betfred aren't renewing their sponsorship, not even Fred's love for the sport is standing up anymore. Watch this space ..........
UpTheFax Posted August 5 Posted August 5 Davy has apparently found a site for a new stadium (the big announcement) and will only temporarily be moving to Dewsbury. I have heard its up near the M62.
Magicsponge Posted August 5 Posted August 5 1 hour ago, The Blues Ox said: The FC Women bid is a strange one, I don't think they have much in the way of ties with Halifax Town, I'd rank that as the most worrying alongside the bid from the Rugby club. The Charnock Bates bid from what we have heard easily looks the best bid but as Rugby fans do we want Town supporters running the stadium as Fax will be very quickly out on their ear when the inevitable happens again and the club start to miss the rent payments. There's a very obvious solution there....
The Blues Ox Posted August 5 Posted August 5 5 hours ago, Magicsponge said: There's a very obvious solution there.... You would think, but there's four certainty's in life, birth, death, taxes, and Fax missing rent payments. Hopefully this time is different. 1
Tony Fax Posted August 5 Posted August 5 Yes, the missed rent payment is a shocker, it's like me forgetting to pay my mortgage. Whoever is responsible for paying the bills should be sacked because they obviously don't know what they're doing. Unless fax really are strapped for cash which at this early stage is worrying, and then it would be doubly worrying because they said it was an oversight meaning they'd be fibbing. But I don't think they are!
Faxpanthers2025 Posted August 6 Author Posted August 6 The FC fans/‘Friends of the shay’ seem very quiet about all this given how noisy they were over Davy. Interesting statement from the Fax directors bid. We have been asked to post a statement to the Panthers fans and beyond. Calderdale Community Stadium consortium sets out its vision for the future The Calderdale Community Stadium consortium, which has submitted a bid to take on the long-term stewardship of The Shay Stadium, has today issued the first in a series of statements outlining its vision for the stadium’s future and its ambitions for the wider Calderdale community. Our decision to submit a bid is rooted in a genuine commitment to Calderdale and its people. We believe the stadium is an important community asset with the potential to deliver much greater sporting, social and economic benefits for the borough. Our ambition is to safeguard its future, attract investment and create a sustainable, welcoming stadium that serves the whole community. Above all, we want to leave a positive legacy for future generations and help create a facility of which everyone in Calderdale can be proud. It is important to clarify that this bid has been submitted by an independent stadium consortium. It is not a bid by the directors of Halifax Panthers, nor is it being made on behalf of the rugby league club. Members of the consortium were part of the group of local businesspeople who stepped forward earlier this year to help save Halifax Panthers from liquidation. That intervention was made because the loss of a historic sporting institution would have been devastating for its supporters, employees, players and the wider Halifax community. Since then, considerable time, expertise and financial support have been committed to giving the Panthers an opportunity to stabilise and rebuild. That experience reinforced our belief in the importance of protecting Calderdale’s sporting institutions and ensuring they have a secure and sustainable home. However, our plans for the Calderdale Community Stadium extend far beyond any one club or sport. FC Halifax Town is central to the identity and future of the stadium. We want to work openly and constructively with the football club, its directors, supporters and wider community. We fully recognise the club’s proud history, its importance to Halifax and the essential role it must play in shaping the stadium’s future. Our vision is for a genuinely inclusive community stadium that welcomes football, rugby league and other sports at every level. It should support men’s and women’s teams, girls’ and boys’ participation, disability and wheelchair sport, grassroots organisations, schools, charities and community groups. We want more people regardless of their age, gender, background or ability to have the opportunity to participate in sport and to feel that the stadium belongs to them. This bid is not about favouring one resident club over another. It is about protecting a major community asset, creating a sustainable future, encouraging collaboration and unlocking investment for the benefit of Calderdale. We recognise the significant responsibility that comes with seeking stewardship of such an important community venue. If our bid is successful, we will work closely with Calderdale Council, FC Halifax Town, Halifax FC Women, Halifax Panthers, Halifax Panthers Women, supporters, local sporting organisations, community groups and residents many of whom we hope will be based at The Shay to create a lasting sporting and community legacy for Calderdale. Over the coming weeks, we intend to share more about the consortium, our plans for the stadium and the benefits we believe our proposals could bring to Calderdale. This is the beginning of that conversation. Our motivation is straightforward: to give something back to Calderdale, secure the long-term future of the stadium and leave a lasting legacy for generations to come. Finally, we would also like to place on record our best wishes to the other bidders and our recognition of the time, commitment and ambition each has brought to this process. While we firmly believe in our vision for The Shay, we share a common desire to secure a sustainable and successful future for the stadium. Ultimately, what matters most is achieving the best possible outcome for the clubs, supporters and wider Calderdale community. CALDERDALE COMMUNITY STADIUM CONSORTIUM UNITED BY SPORT | STRONGER TOGETHER 1
UpTheFax Posted August 6 Posted August 6 3 minutes ago, Magicsponge said: Nothing to dislike there,wherever you pin your mast.. I agree. Reads similar to the Charnock Bates article in the Courier a week or so ago. Wonder if the two could work together which would seem the obvious way forward. 2
Blind side johnny Posted August 6 Posted August 6 On 05/08/2026 at 08:06, UpTheFax said: 3 bids, all wanting the leasehold rather than freehold? I think that is all they ever wanted. Unfortunately there isnt much information to form an opinion on the best option. Only the Charnock Bates bidders have given any sort of overview of their bid. I would say the Halifax FC Women bid is the one that concerns me most and the involvement of people in Dubai. As for our bid, I am not sure if we need the complication of running the Shay. Wasn't there a supposed Dubai involvement in the rescue of NW Crusaders that never actually came to much? Asset-stripping is my guess, and I have no skin in any games. 1 Sport, amongst other things, is a dream-world offering escape from harsh reality and the disturbing prospect of change.
Faxpanthers2025 Posted August 28 Author Posted August 28 Latest on the fax-related shay bid from ‘Calderdale council watch’ ***A Community Stadium, Not a Council Liability: Consortium Sets Out Its Vision for The Shay*** Calderdale Community Stadium Consortium has responded in detail to questions from Calderdale Council Watch. While some commercial details remain confidential, the answers offer a clearer picture of its proposal for The Shay. The Calderdale Community Stadium Consortium has provided a detailed response to questions about its proposal to take over the operation of The Shay. The answers — taken as a whole — offer significantly more clarity on its plans than has previously been available. Not every question has been answered in full. That is perhaps inevitable while Calderdale Council's competitive process remains live, with the consortium understandably unwilling to publish commercially sensitive financial modelling, tenant arrangements and contractual negotiations. But several commitments within the response are worth noting. *The Structure: A Community Interest Company* Perhaps the most significant element of the proposal is the proposed Community Interest Company (CIC) structure. Under the consortium's proposal, Calderdale Council would retain ownership of The Shay and grant a long-term lease to a dedicated CIC established to operate and safeguard the stadium. This is a materially different proposition from simply selling the stadium to a private commercial operator. The Council would retain the freehold while the CIC would be specifically established around the stewardship and operation of The Shay, with the statutory community purpose and — more significantly — the asset-lock protections associated with a CIC. It is worth noting, however, that a CIC structure does not automatically mean the community controls the organisation. The asset lock places restrictions on how the CIC's assets can be transferred, helping to preserve their value for community benefit, but control rests with the CIC's directors and members. In other words, the proposal is not simply about finding someone willing to take The Shay off the Council's hands. It is about creating a dedicated organisation whose purpose is to operate the stadium as a community sporting asset. Whether that structure delivers in practice will depend on the detail of the lease and governance arrangements. But the underlying model provides a foundation for long-term protection that a purely commercial operation would not. *More than £1m of Private Funding* The consortium says it is prepared to make a direct financial commitment of more than £1 million towards working capital and remedial works. That is a substantial commitment — particularly when considered against the Council's long-running concerns about the cost of operating The Shay. The detailed composition of that £1m has not been disclosed, but the consortium describes the funding as committed rather than aspirational. The consortium's argument is straightforward: the financial risk of running and maintaining the stadium would move away from Calderdale taxpayers and onto the new operating entity. The detailed financial model has been provided to the Council for scrutiny. The consortium says publishing the underlying figures while the competitive process remains live would not be appropriate. That is a reasonable position. The public needs to know whether a credible financial commitment exists. The Council, as the body undertaking due diligence, needs to see the detailed numbers. On the evidence provided, the consortium says both are happening. Unanswered question: Whether the CIC would be permitted to distribute profits to directors or shareholders remains unclear. The response did not explicitly rule this out, and a CIC is not automatically prohibited from making distributions. *The People Behind the Bid: Halifax Panthers, Separation and Governance* Two of the individuals behind the Calderdale Community Stadium Consortium — Ben Walker and John Coulter — are directors and shareholders of Halifax Panthers Ltd, the company that operates the rugby league club. The third, Jas Chatha, along with Walker and Coulter, is a shareholder of the holding company associated with the club. That connection is important when assessing the Consortium's proposal for The Shay, particularly because Halifax Panthers would be one of the stadium's principal sporting tenants. The Consortium is, however, explicit that the proposed stadium CIC and Halifax Panthers would be separate legal and financial entities. The consortium says the founding shareholders of the new Panthers entity have already injected more than £300,000 into the club and that the new operation has been established with different financial controls and governance arrangements. More importantly for The Shay, the Consortium says the rugby club would not have access to stadium funds or assets. The stadium CIC would have its own banking arrangements, accounts, financial controls, governance and working capital. The Consortium also says the stadium lease would not be offered as security for Panthers' liabilities or for unrelated businesses connected to individual directors. This separation provides an important layer of protection. The proposal is therefore not simply “Halifax Panthers takes over The Shay.” It is a separate stadium operation, with the rugby club becoming one of its tenants. There is, however, an obvious governance issue arising from the overlap between the people behind the stadium proposal and the rugby club. The Consortium openly acknowledges the potential for conflicts of interest. It says conflicts would be declared and recorded, with directors withdrawing from discussion or decision-making where appropriate. It also says material commercial arrangements involving connected organisations would be subject to suitable scrutiny. That does not, in itself, mean the Consortium's proposal is flawed or that it cannot operate The Shay in the interests of all users. It does, however, mean that the governance safeguards outlined in the response will be critical if the bid is successful. The Council and the community will need confidence that decisions involving rent, pitch access, investment and other commercial arrangements are made transparently and in the interests of the stadium as a whole, rather than giving an advantage to any individual tenant or connected party. The important point is that the Consortium has acknowledged the issue rather than attempting to ignore it. The real test will be whether the promised safeguards are translated into clear governance arrangements, properly documented and legally enforceable. Unanswered question: The response was silent on specific rent-default provisions — what would happen if either tenant fell into arrears, what grace periods would apply, and what safeguards would exist for temporary cashflow problems. *The CIC Asset Lock* The consortium's decision to use a CIC provides another layer of protection. A CIC is a legal form specifically designed for organisations that operate for community benefit. The statutory asset lock places restrictions on how the CIC's assets can be transferred, helping to preserve their value for community benefit. Combined with the fact that Calderdale Council would retain the freehold, this creates two important protections around the stadium. The precise legal effect of these protections will depend on the lease, the CIC's constitution and any other contractual arrangements. But the underlying structure offers a level of protection that a purely private commercial operator would not. The consortium also says the lease would contain further protections covering assignment, change of use, redevelopment and circumstances in which the lease could return to the Council. Those detailed provisions will matter enormously when the legal documentation is eventually produced. But the underlying structure is encouraging. *Community Use* The response also gives considerable attention to community use. The consortium says increasing appropriate use of the pitch by grassroots clubs, community organisations and Calderdale residents is a fundamental part of the proposal. Importantly, it says it has already undertaken technical due diligence on the playing surface and has engaged specialist contractors to examine its condition, maintenance requirements and the investment needed to increase utilisation. That is preferable to simply promising unlimited community access without considering whether the pitch can physically sustain it. The consortium's approach appears to be: invest first, maintain properly, then increase sustainable community use. It also supports affordable or at-cost arrangements where appropriate. The precise hours and pricing have not yet been fixed — and that is one area where the response does not provide the contractual certainty originally requested. But there is a clear commitment to making community use part of the operating model rather than treating it as an afterthought. *FC Halifax Town* The response is also clear that FC Halifax Town would remain one of The Shay's principal sporting tenants. The consortium says both football and rugby should be treated fairly and equitably, while recognising that the two clubs have different fixture calendars, operational requirements and commercial needs. Fairness does not necessarily mean identical contracts. What matters is that one club cannot simply be given preferential treatment because of its relationship with individuals involved in the stadium operation. The consortium explicitly says that neither club would receive preferential treatment for that reason. The precise rents and commercial arrangements remain subject to negotiation, but the stated principle is clear: The Shay has to work for both clubs. *Supporter Representation* The consortium has also proposed a Steering Committee providing oversight, scrutiny, transparency and stakeholder engagement. It says this would provide supporters, the two principal sporting tenants and other stakeholders with a formal mechanism to scrutinise the operation of the stadium and contribute to its future direction. There is still work to do here. The precise composition and powers of the Steering Committee have yet to be determined, and it would be reasonable for supporters to want to know whether representation comes with genuine decision-making powers rather than simply consultation. Nevertheless, the proposal represents a recognition that The Shay belongs to a much wider community than simply whoever operates it. *What Remains Unanswered* There are legitimate unanswered questions: • The consortium has not published its detailed revenue projections or expenditure assumptions. • It hasn't yet specified exact tenant rents, pitch allocation hours or the precise terms of the proposed leases. • The timetable for handover remains to be agreed with the Council. • The detailed legal protections still have to be negotiated. • The response did not clarify whether the CIC would be permitted to distribute profits to directors or shareholders. • Specific rent-default provisions, grace periods and forfeiture clauses were not addressed. Those are matters which should continue to be scrutinised. But it would be unfair to characterise the response simply by focusing on what hasn't been disclosed. The consortium has provided substantially more information about its proposed structure, funding and governance than might reasonably have been expected while the Council's process remains live. *The Fundamentals* At its heart, the consortium is proposing something quite straightforward: • Calderdale Council keeps ownership. • A dedicated Community Interest Company operates the stadium. • The CIC takes on the financial and operational risk. • More than £1 million of private funding is committed. • The rugby club remains a separate legal and financial entity. • FC Halifax Town remains a principal tenant. • The stadium is protected by the CIC structure and, ultimately, the Council's continued freehold ownership. • Community use is placed at the centre of the operating model. • Governance safeguards for managing the consortium's connection with Halifax Panthers will be critical to the proposal's credibility. That doesn't mean the proposal should receive a free pass. Quite the opposite. The Council should continue its detailed financial, legal and governance due diligence, and supporters should continue asking difficult questions. But after 18 months of uncertainty over the future of The Shay, there is a proposal on the table which appears to put long-term stewardship, community use and financial responsibility at the centre of the solution. The final test will be the detail of the lease and governance arrangements. On the information provided so far, the Calderdale Community Stadium Consortium's proposal is one of three that deserves serious consideration. *Three Bids, One Decision* The Consortium's proposal is only one of three bids currently being considered for The Shay. The other two proposals come from Charnock-Bates, through a community benefit society model, and a partnership involving FC Halifax Town Women and a Dubai-based advisory group. Each proposal now has to be assessed by Calderdale Council against its own financial, legal, commercial and community criteria. There is therefore no foregone conclusion — and there shouldn't be. The Shay now has three competing proposals for its future, rather than an uncertain future hanging over it. For supporters and the wider community, the focus now should be on the detail of each bid, the protections offered and — most importantly — which proposal provides the strongest and most sustainable future for The Shay. *The Test* The Council now has to decide which of those three proposals offers The Shay the strongest protection, the most sustainable financial future and the greatest long-term benefit to the community. On the evidence currently available, the Consortium has put forward a proposition with some significant strengths: public ownership retained, a dedicated CIC taking on the operating risk, more than £1 million of private funding, separation from the rugby club and a stated commitment to community use. The detail still matters. But after months of uncertainty, the debate around The Shay is no longer simply about how the Council gets rid of a £500,000 problem. It is about which of three groups can provide The Shay with a sustainable future — and the Consortium has now given supporters considerably more to consider. Calderdale Council Watch has also approached the other two bidders for The Shay with the same/similar questions. Their responses will be published if and when they are received.
UpTheFax Posted August 28 Posted August 28 I think I would rather see £1m spent on the team or club infrastructure than getting involved with the stadium.
The Blues Ox Posted August 29 Posted August 29 19 hours ago, UpTheFax said: I think I would rather see £1m spent on the team or club infrastructure than getting involved with the stadium. With the way the club appears to have been ran since the new owners took over, this looks more than ever an elaborate plan to get hold of the stadium in some fashion. We just have to hope that it's better behind the scenes than what is been presented in public.
Tony Fax Posted August 29 Posted August 29 I've got a feeling the shay will be a new Andy Burnham council estate in a few years time, with fax playing at siddal in league 1 in front of a few hundred die hards and FC Town playing in brighouse. 1 1
Faxpanthers2025 Posted September 22 Author Posted September 22 Interesting piece with Jas Chatha re the Shay bid. https://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/other-sport/we-want-the-whole-community-to-come-together-for-the-benefit-of-calderdale-says-consortium-bidding-to-take-over-running-of-the-shay-9124719?fbclid=IwdGRleAUfm_NwZG9mAWZkaWQWUO6Dv0ypsdMijBrLroACa-Pi7VYzmWV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkCjY2Mjg1NjgzNzkAAR5xdudwQFu0KtTtE27uM55KDiKDnIm2hskQ0VUEkmtSuWCIrasFat9TAlZgeg_aem_k1A8afB5USiuQtYhYNpmHA
UpTheFax Posted September 23 Posted September 23 I just dont know why they/we want the Shay. As a club we have enough challenges.
Eyeball Posted September 23 Posted September 23 Challenges that start to disappear if we can earn money every day of the week via the stadium. 1
The Blues Ox Posted September 25 Posted September 25 Nice to hear about the bid from them along with a bit of background info.
Faxpanthers2025 Posted September 26 Author Posted September 26 Yes, was interesting to read I see Calderdale Council are promising a ‘verbal update on the future of the shay stadium’ at their next Cabinet meeting on 5 oct.
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