Dewsbury Rams moving on after losing McShanes

[Total Rugby League]

DEWSBURY RAMS coach Paul March wants other players to step up and flourish following the departure of the McShane brothers, Craig and Jack. Fullback Craig,...

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[Blind side johnny]

In order to flourish things first need to be nurtured.

[Thornhill ram]

9 hours ago, Total Rugby League said:

DEWSBURY RAMS coach Paul March wants other players to step up and flourish following the departure of the McShane brothers, Craig and Jack. Fullback Craig,...

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Maybe Paul March should join them at Hunslet. He has been uninspiring at Rams after 2 seasons...

[Wakefield Ram]

22 minutes ago, Thornhill ram said:

Maybe Paul March should join them at Hunslet. He has been uninspiring at Rams after 2 seasons...

Nearly 3 seasons. 

[J Phil Loxton]

3 minutes ago, Wakefield Ram said:

Nearly 3 seasons. 

Don't turn your back on your club WR . Coaches come and go. Some good ones some bad ones some indifferent. Believe me I have felt like you loads of times since I started watching Fev in 1963. I wish now that I had a coach to hate. AND wish I still had a club to love. Who knows one day we both might be standing at your stadium urging both our clubs on.I HOPE SO.

[Wakefield Ram]

7 hours ago, J Phil Loxton said:

Don't turn your back on your club WR . Coaches come and go. Some good ones some bad ones some indifferent. Believe me I have felt like you loads of times since I started watching Fev in 1963. I wish now that I had a coach to hate. AND wish I still had a club to love. Who knows one day we both might be standing at your stadium urging both our clubs on.I HOPE SO.

Thanks. I don't hate our coach, I don't know him but he seems a really good bloke. And the effort and commitment of the players is unbelievable. But I'm just bored of watching us underperform for the same reasons for nearly 3 seasons and a lot of this is down to PM. 

Edited August 20 by Wakefield Ram

[grumpyoldram]

23 hours ago, Blind side johnny said:

In order to flourish things first need to be nurtured.

Not sure feeding the side horse tish as coach is working though BSJ. 
we need a Capability Brown, not an Arthur Fallowfield ( one for the really oldies).

[Blind side johnny]

2 minutes ago, grumpyoldram said:

Not sure feeding the side horse tish as coach is working though BSJ. 
we need a Capability Brown, not an Arthur Fallowfield ( one for the really oldies).

Indeed. That was my intended point, clearly not as elegantly put.

[Crown Flatter]

On 19/08/2026 at 14:57, Blind side johnny said:

In order to flourish things first need to be nurtured.

I read that first as “…need to be tortured”, which is happening to we fans!

[Crown Flatter]

1 hour ago, grumpyoldram said:

Not sure feeding the side horse tish as coach is working though BSJ. 
we need a Capability Brown, not an Arthur Fallowfield ( one for the really oldies).

Being one of the older ones, I do not recall Arthur Fallowfield (I have looked “him” up and often listened to those radio shows). 
On the other hand I do recall a Bill with that surname (but do the younger ones know of him?).

[grumpyoldram]

3 hours ago, Crown Flatter said:

Being one of the older ones, I do not recall Arthur Fallowfield (I have looked “him” up and often listened to those radio shows). 
On the other hand I do recall a Bill with that surname (but do the younger ones know of him?).

You must have listened to “round the horn” on BBC light program ?

Arthur was a rustic old gardener played by Kenneth Williams.
You probably had to be there.

[Crown Flatter]

11 minutes ago, grumpyoldram said:

You must have listened to “round the horn” on BBC light program ?

Arthur was a rustic old gardener played by Kenneth Williams.
You probably had to be there.

“Round the Horn” and “Beyond our Ken” were great favourites of mine and lately have listened again to the podcast versions, but Arthur Fallowfield is lost to me I’m afraid.

[grumpyoldram]

12 hours ago, Crown Flatter said:

“Round the Horn” and “Beyond our Ken” were great favourites of mine and lately have listened again to the podcast versions, but Arthur Fallowfield is lost to me I’m afraid.

I think the answer lies in the soil.

[grumpyoldram]

9 minutes ago, grumpyoldram said:

I think the answer lies in the soil.

Seriously though, I find it alarming that I can remember the ramblings of an old time comedian from the fifties better than I can remember our last successful coach. Love Mark to bits, and he has been the clubs saviour without doubt, but his ability to spot coaching talent has been sadly lacking. I think the last good one we had must have been Andy Kelly.
Just as a side, is he still involved in helping Bradford with their administration ?

[Wakefield Ram]

2 hours ago, grumpyoldram said:

Seriously though, I find it alarming that I can remember the ramblings of an old time comedian from the fifties better than I can remember our last successful coach. Love Mark to bits, and he has been the clubs saviour without doubt, but his ability to spot coaching talent has been sadly lacking. I think the last good one we had must have been Andy Kelly.
Just as a side, is he still involved in helping Bradford with their administration ?

Yes coach selection hasn't been great. Neil Kelly's second stint was very good 2017-18?

We don't know who's applied or if there's been many applicants in the past 

On the plus side, great facilities, easy travel and a chairman who gives you more time as a coach than most of things aren't going well. And you know you and the players will get paid 

On the minus side, a smaller budget than most clubs.

Edited August 21 by Wakefield Ram

[Blind side johnny]

9 hours ago, grumpyoldram said:

Seriously though, I find it alarming that I can remember the ramblings of an old time comedian from the fifties better than I can remember our last successful coach. Love Mark to bits, and he has been the clubs saviour without doubt, but his ability to spot coaching talent has been sadly lacking. I think the last good one we had must have been Andy Kelly.
Just as a side, is he still involved in helping Bradford with their administration ?

No. He disposed of his shareholding a couple of years ago.

[NickD]

On 21/08/2026 at 18:37, Blind side johnny said:

No. He disposed of his shareholding a couple of years ago.

Andy Kelly at the Giants now.  No doubt you’ll see him around quite a bit next year

[Blind side johnny]

56 minutes ago, NickD said:

Andy Kelly at the Giants now.  No doubt you’ll see him around quite a bit next year

I doubt it. He runs their academy which is based at Laund Hill.

(And you have responded to the wrong poster.)

[Blind side johnny]

On 20/08/2026 at 20:14, grumpyoldram said:

You must have listened to “round the horn” on BBC light program ?

Arthur was a rustic old gardener played by Kenneth Williams.
You probably had to be there.

Beyond Our Ken, not Round The Horne.

[Keep The Faith]

On 23/08/2026 at 13:49, Blind side johnny said:

I doubt it. He runs their academy which is based at Laund Hill.

(And you have responded to the wrong poster.)

Does he? 
 

last time I spoke to Andy he was director of rugby league including all first team issues 

[Wakefield Ram]

According to Giants website Head of Youth but it might be out of date

https://giantsrl.com/locker-room/profile/859/andy-kelly

[Blind side johnny]

Maybe Ralph has promoted him?

Whichever I don't see him having any involvement with us.

[Wakefield Ram]

3 hours ago, Blind side johnny said:

Maybe Ralph has promoted him?

Whichever I don't see him having any involvement with us.

From what's been said, Huddersfield will just turn up at Dewsbury on match days to play. Given they train in Huddersfield, not much reason to come to Dewsbury. 

[coolie]

14 minutes ago, Wakefield Ram said:

From what's been said, Huddersfield will just turn up at Dewsbury on match days to play. Given they train in Huddersfield, not much reason to come to Dewsbury. 

I think they'll have at least 1 training session at Dewsbury a week, don't forget the dimensions of the pitch will be changing (longer & wider) 

So it would be daft not to train there. 

[Wakefield Ram]

7 hours ago, coolie said:

I think they'll have at least 1 training session at Dewsbury a week, don't forget the dimensions of the pitch will be changing (longer & wider) 

You might be right. I'm just going on what's been said.

I am still interested in how they will make the pitch wider. Moving the South Stand back?