I didn't mean it in a derogatory way spud.All I meant was that the league leaders shield doesn't get you promoted which is what we are ALL gagging for.The team finishing top of the division SHOULD go up automatically. It works like that in the majority of sports.But I agree it will be a boost in terms of confidence for the boys in the playoffs. But I still think coming top should be automatic promotion. (Just my opinion).
Finishing top and being promoted is only right if all teams have an even fixture list. As from the offset it was not even then they could not send the winners up. If Oldham beat Swinton next week then I will accept they were the best and deserving of promotion. Until then we still don't know who the best team is.
It just looks even more complicat to me and still does not mean that a league winner will be promoted.
Initially you play all teams once only - therefore fixture lists will still favour some teams over others with more home games against top teams than for others
After the 8 split, I assume the points carry which carries forward the inequality and compounds it by offering further home advantages to some teams.
The advantages provided by home should not be underestimated. Old hams home record is one of the reasons they are top and Swinton have only lost one home game.
As league one has a number of teams who to me can all win on the day and there is very little between them then even small advantages can be telling.
Unless all teams are played home and away and the winner goes up, there will always be some skew of fairness however they try
Can't we just play 28 games? No ipro cup, all clubs home and away and then top two go up. Swinton this year. If they reach the playoff final will have played 28 games + two challenge cup games and four friendlies
Yes, so also interesting to compare points difference for only those games against the other 'contending teams' instead of allowing the unequal number of floggings of the southern teams to determine success.
RFL too busy taking orders from NRL on substitutions to care about fairness in the third tier.
Anita, have put a table based on your suggestion on a thread on the Swinton forum. There are 5 games to go but as it stands it is different than the league as your feared.
On the Rochdale forum someone questioned how the league would be if only games against top 8 teams were included. As this would result in an uneven number of games the average points per game played has been assumed. The present table is:
The problem is our record in play offs. With a win on Sunday we could genuinely aspire to finishing top of the league, but the RFL have once again moved the goalposts. Having won the league we would more than likely have to beat Keighley again to go up. Note, no automatic right for the most deserving team, ie. the team that finishes top and has therefore shown that they can be consistent, to go up. Failure to beat Keighley, or whoever finishes second, puts us back in the mix with probably York, North Wales and Swinton, or possibly Rochdale. With our abysmal record of failing at the last hurdle the prospect of yet again going through play offs really puts the wind up me.
How the RFL can continually make these stupid decisions and make our sport into a Mickey Mouse set up I do not know. What, for Heavens sake, is wrong with the top team going up automatically and the next four clubs battling it out for the other spot? It does not surprise me at all that the sport is failing to inspire all but the diehards.
What is wrong with the top team going up automatically.......probably the fact that everyone does not play everyone home and away and that some teams therefore have an easier fixture list than others. In a normal league then you are right that the best team would finish top but as the RFL decided not to make the fixtures a level playing field then at least it realised it could not offer automatic promotion to anyone.
Oh and time to campaign for fairer fixtures before it becomes sour grapes ✊
York avoid playing Rochdale (A), Barrow (A) and Oldham (H). That's three of the four games we have lost....!
Oldham and Keighley gave it next easiest avoiding playing York (A)
So Steve you are right, winning home games and away against the bottom 6 was never going to be enough for Swinton, North Wales and Newcastle
to get in the playoffs.......but it would have been for York, Oldham and Keighley !
Whatever team is selected, this is a big weekend looking at the fixtures. The top 8 are all playing each other and the results of all matches are in the balance. With home advantage against Newcastle we should have the edge but will need to be on our A game from the start and play two full halfs. Not a game for experimenting I would suggest. Could have a big impact on how the league table pans out this season, so definitely one to get down to Sedgley Park for. Can't wait..
Wins for Barrow, Crusaders, Swinton and York would leave top 5 on 12 points, 2 on 11 and 1 on 10 (and with a game in hand for Swinton)