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  1. Hello Fellow Lovers of League:) For those that are interested. I spent yesterday up in Toulouse and had a nice lunch with the commercial team main points that came out of it. * Confirmed will be full time next season * Will make 100% effort to get back up to SL and sign the players needed to keep them there next time * Disappointed with the season but learned much to be positive about * Confident that crowds will grow next season to average of 5000 + on the back of locals like a winning team new promotions etc * Big push marketing wise on social media (Already very impressive) special deal for students with one free beer on entry band entertainment etc (Suggested deal with bus company to run them back to and from campus) * Local sponsorship doing really well and expected to increase by around 30% next season All good stuff WELL DONE TOULOUSE:) Cheers Paul PS/Damm good lunch went easy as a 2 and half hour drive back home:)
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  2. A lot of responsibility on one so young.
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  3. Back when I was playing for Redditch Halcyon (a stone's throw from where Midlands Hurricanes play), we travelled to play Plymouth in the MASWARLA league. We lost 116-0, and as amateurs had to chip in for the petrol money. The following season we were determined to do better, and we did, 106-0. And we drew a then top amateur side Spotland Rangers in the BARLA cup and everyone thought the visitors would get a century against us, but we fought, we battled for every ball and the final score was 0-98. Cue our lap of honour in front of 200 spectators. It's tough for us outside the heartlands but we love the game as much as anyone in the North.
    36 points
  4. Can absolutely guarantee that Bulldogs have lowest playing budget amongst those Clubs in playoffs!! But.. we have the biggest team spirit budget and the best group of people money can’t buy.
    25 points
  5. Popped up on Twitter that the IMG President Adam Kelly was being interviewed on a sports business podcast. Main takeaways: Speaking of other sports doing behind the scenes series (speaking of drive to survive and the new Arsenal documentary rather than in an RL context) he likes them and thinks they have a role to play but they're not a magic bullet. Mentions that he feels the strength in those shows is that they focus on a sport or athlete who is well recognised and gives a view behind the curtain and it might not be suitable for a sport where the athletes are not well known (mentions triathlon as an example and says other things for them are higher priority). Feels the partnership with RL is part of the new era of IMG, part of repositioning the company with a view to longer term projects using a broader set of capabilities (i.e. all key services a sport needs for growth) Focus with RL is maximising long term growth which involves, building better/deeper relationships with fans, attracting new audiences Ground up approach involving re-structuring competitions Re-imagining how content is produced Mentions a "light-bulb" moment for IMG recently when looking at how sports outsource content production (i.e. live matches) and give that broadcaster responsibility which can lead to misaligned objectives and incentives (for me this hints at in-house production or at least having greater say in what Sky & C4 produce) Mentions digital transformation projects & audience data Maximise streaming and data driven content development Seems RL is the test base for a new IMG strategy that offers this holistic package where they can use their business units (such as 7League/160over90/Endeavour streaming who they've acquired) to do everything and not have to outsource anything to anyone else (although RFL are not necessarily tied into using these he thinks they make a compelling case as a package) Builds on the same approach with was used with Euro league Basketball & Table Tennis The only investment is in use of IMG's resources, feels RL was right to turn down private equity as cash wouldn't solve the sports issues (mentions expertise, network support & guidance as what was needed). Doesn't seem a fan of private equity Mentions sports trying to do too much in house and not being able to attract the required expertise to make it work. That's where IMG step in Had received a brief on the morning of the podcast recording and says he feels their team have put together plans that will fire improvement in the sport Not specifically RL related, but was asked about RU and mentioned that he'd met with the Six Nations leaders and found that they individually believed their competition was another Union or another part of Rugby rather than a broader battle for attention versus Netflix/video games/live entertainment etc. Points to Boxing and misalignment and disagreement over competition within a historically massive sport and how that contrasts with UFC which has seen huge recent growth Feels RL has a passionate following that has been underserved and underutilised Mentioned a couple of times getting fundamentals correct and "introducing a framework that will allow investment at the team level" Seems to be about giving owners confidence that if they invest in their clubs they can build the clubs as capital assets rather than a black hole for cash Dodged a question over the geography of the sport, the presenter asked him whether he himself was a target audience as someone in the south of England who only knew RL from Grandstand, swerved that one Not planning on a slow start, they're committing to a lot of up front resource and want to set the foundations for growth now to unfold over 12 years Mentions they doubled the revenues of Euro League basketball in 18 months by doing the "right things simultaneously" Unofficial Partner Podcast
    24 points
  6. Have to say, I didn't think Saints would manage to get Knowles off but I guess they managed to twist the panel's arm.
    23 points
  7. I've A Map of all of the rugby league teams (In the structure) in France, Thought I'd show everyone. https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1MPRHg03WMsO9U2-MFiYzQbX0QqOMY7k&usp=sharing
    20 points
  8. I'm probably in a minority here as a pretty committed Royalist. 10 days of mourning and the abandonment of sporting fixtures seems excessive. It's right that games are postponed tomorrow and on the day of the funeral and I would expect a minute silence and playing of the national anthem between now and the funeral. It seems to me that Lizzie was a keep calm and carry on type. Life should go on, we instantly got a new head of state and the world is still turning. GSTK
    19 points
  9. The lack of respect in some of the comments on here is astounding.
    19 points
  10. Why should games stop?
    18 points
  11. All they need is someone to come up with artist’s impressions of their new stadium
    17 points
  12. Whilst Rugby League is absolutely jam packed with the negative, sour fanbase it has, it’s always going to be where it is. How sad that some have the energy they do to slate the game as much as they do, I often think that if even half that energy was positive, we’d be a far richer sport. It’s been ten years since Saints met Leeds in a final and for reference, they haven’t met in a Challenge Cup Final for fifty years and met once, in 1975, in the Premiership final so five major finals in forty-seven years is an average of one final every nine and a half years. I’m a Saints fan, so yeah, I care, obviously. That said, it’s an easy sell from a marketing perspective. I went to all four Saints v Leeds finals (they’ve almost all merged into one big horror show in my mind) and we deserved to lose nearly all of them, if memory serves, and the Saints angle is finally getting one over Leeds. The Leeds angle is easy. They won three in a row themselves, which Saints have matched, whilst none of the Leeds players will have played in any final against Saints, they won’t want that record broken. We’ve also got an in form Leeds side, picked up at their lowest ebb in a generation or two, against a Saints side who’ve won the league leaders shield and been one of the best sides in the competition all year. But Rugby League, hey? It’s nothing without negativity.
    17 points
  13. I've never been as disappointed with the sport tbh. This just doesn't pass the sniff test. Something isn't right here. Since when do we have two appeals?
    16 points
  14. That's a brilliant 5 minutes of tv, a coach massively emotional, players with fans, players with family. Losing coaches and players showing class. Magnificent television. Matt Peet is a class act, turned the interview from being Wigan failed to Leeds succeeding. Been really impressed by him this season.
    16 points
  15. beIN to broadcast the World Cup in France.
    16 points
  16. Up to a few weeks ago Leeds and Salford were near the relegation zone, now Leeds are in the grand final and Salford still have a chance to get there. Wigan have played decent for the majority of the season while Leeds have been terrible for most of the season but Leeds are in the final based on a single match. Is that fair? Giving the 5th and 6th place teams an opportunity to get to the grand final demeans the integrity of the regular season games....and we wonder why attendances aren't as high as we want them to be. Because Leeds have been average for most of the season it detracts from the grand final in terms of excitement, coz in my eyes they've not been the 1st, 2nd or even 3rd best team in SL this season. There's also a wider argument to be had about whether the play offs and grand final devalues regular season games.
    15 points
  17. Take the actual incident out of this for a moment the biggest concern here is with this decision the RFL are basically saying, the ref was wrong, the video ref was wrong, the MRP were wrong, and the first appeals judiciary were wrong. Even the most ardent Saints fan must be able to see that the RFL are saying the whole process and the people involved are incompetent, it’s not a good look for the sport.
    15 points
  18. At some point during the season we were faced with the threat of relegation and I really thought the club was dying a slow death, the fans we're losing hope. Since Mike Eccles has taken over the performances have improved considerably. They've not been perfect but standards have improved and the fans are now awaiting announcements of the club's plans for next season. That includes the decision as to whether Mike Eccles will become the permanent head coach and the backroom staff structure for 2023. What's of major importance now is that the club makes some good, ambitious signings, beefs up the pack and shows the fans that they mean business. The club has also recently appointed a new head of commercial Mark Kemp which is a good sign, the appointment shows ambition and adds expertise into the back office. I hope we see the benefits of it next season coz there is some indication already of improvement in the way that the club is being run. Altogether the move to Wimbledon has worked out well but clearly the team, results and performances need to match the quality of the stadium, but generally speaking Plough Lane is a step up from what we've had in recent years it's been a much needed move. The great thing to hear as a fan is that the club has stated it's aim is to return to SL a huge relief when you consider how poorly the season started
    15 points
  19. I’ve made my point elsewhere but this is the appropriate thread: the play offs reward the best teams over the course of the season. That is a statistical fact. And for those calling it ‘contrived’. That is, ironically, exactly what a regular season format in rugby league would look like. Rugby league would be out on its own in having zero incentive for teams to finish in any position that isn’t first/not last. The Premier League has CL and EL spots to compete for, the rest of the footballing pyramid has play offs. Just be very aware of what you are asking for: no competitive incentive to go and watch your team if they aren’t competing for top spot. How does that help to grow attendances and engage new audiences? Salford and Leeds won just over half their games this season. This narrative that all they had to do was win a couple of games in August to make the play offs is counter-factual.
    14 points
  20. I'll tell you what - this Salford side are up there as good and as entertaining as any team i've seen in 35 years, they are exactly the sort of side and the brand of Rugby i want to see be crowned champions, they are a joy to watch despite twice in recent weeks doing that to us!! We were pathetic today, absolutely pathetic, we could have had 20 men on the field and still wouldn't have looked like scoring out there. Awful, slow, 1 man rugby or passing to the next guy in the line who were all stood still, missed tackles, lazy efforts, ill discipline, there was no graft, no urgency, seemingly no will to fight back. We never once ran fast like they did, we ambled/jogged forward with the ball, we didn't run through tacklers like they did, we didn't offload like they did in fact we did nothing, zilch all game. I am so disappointed that a season that offered hope to us Fartowners fizzled out with a nilling at home where we have been so dominant all year. Salford ran hard, fast and with purpose, they tore holes in our usual solid middle time and again and threw the ball around and had us on the back foot all afternoon, their support was terrific and noisy, where the hell do they all go on a home matchday though?. They and Rowley deserve every accolade they get between now and the end of the season, they are a superb team. Congratulations and good luck to them, back to the drawing board for us!
    14 points
  21. I am sitting here watching the United game on tv from Old Trafford. A minutes silence of course but other than that the atmosphere is no different than what you would expect. Most decent people will be mindful and respectful of the death of the Queen whether they have strong royalist feelings or not. I am not but I feel for her family as I do for anyone who loses a loved one. But for the majority of people in the UK life goes on and we want to see things we enjoy. Sport is one of them. Maybe there will be some postponements but I fail to see why suspending everything in the country for 10 days adds anything. We can have a national day of mourning on the day of the funeral to pay our collective respects.
    14 points
  22. yes - extremely sad - why can't some posters just show some respect for a great and dignified lady who was still working in her 90s - a great example to us all
    14 points
  23. Matty Henson confirmed for next season.
    13 points
  24. I agree with this. We'll all still be going to work tomorrow, so I see no reason why sport would be cancelled. I think sporting events are good ways for people to maybe get together and pay their respects as there is usually a formal silence, tribute etc. Pay respects, but we aren't stopping everything for 10 days.
    13 points
  25. https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/channel-4s-super-league-coverage-up-for-awards-59572/ In the Broadcast Sports awards 2022, Channel 4’s coverage of Super League is up for Sports Production of the Year whilst one of their star pundits is up for an individual award. Former Leeds Rhinos women star Danika Priim is up for pundit of the year after a terrific season in front of the camera on Channel 4.
    12 points
  26. If buffer wanted to go round again in an assistant coach type role needed if required he deserves that privilege. Class player who deserves more then what some post on here for his service to our club
    12 points
  27. Having considered this a bit more thoroughly, I'm still struggling to get my head around this. From Saints' perspective, it is in our interests to have as many players as possible available for the Grand Final. With internationals counting towards bans, there was no disincentive to Saints appealing. Any additional 'frivolous' related suspension would only impact England. This placed the RFL in a position where there was a conflict of interest given that it is responsible for the national team. Similarly, there was nothing to lose with the second appeal. Saints haven't done anything 'wrong', as such. We are entitled to appeal a suspension, as is any team. But the balance of risk was lessened due to internationals counting towards suspensions. Despite Saints doing nothing illegally here, it does sit a little uncomfortably with me as a fan of the club. I know many will scoff at this, but we are a well-run club and I have always had a degree of pride in the way we have conducted ourselves off the field, certainly in more recent years. The exception being McManus' comments following the 2019 Challenge Cup Final. We got some tough calls from the ref that day, but that's life. We weren't good enough to win. For example, Woolf has publicly backed the RFL's harsher disciplinary approach all year. When Sironen got banned for a soft shoulder charge against Wakefield, he backed the decision, saying he understood the need for the RFL to protect players. Same for Mata'utai's suspension for lifting the collar of a potentially injured Danny Levi. And that gave me pride that we do things the right way. Although I back the rights of a club to challenge a suspension, this just doesn't feel right when, in my view, Knowles' actions placed a player in a potentially dangerous situation and posed the risk of a nasty injury. I've avoided the need for calls for reform of the disciplinary system, but every week there seems to be a circus surrounding suspensions. This has been unbecoming for the sport and an unwelcome distraction ahead of the Grand Final, culminating in a second tribunal repudiating the view of the referee, match review panel and first tribunal in one fell swoop. That is indicative that something isn't right at all. Players must be protected from injury and that should be the centre of this, but some of the decisions reached and how they vary so wildly throughout the season suggests we need a rethink.
    12 points
  28. Probably not best placed to answer this one, but these two sides haven't contested a final in 11 years. That's a new generation who would know little or nothing of the 07-11 finals.
    12 points
  29. in super league terms yes, it's only been done twice but the game did exist before 1998. in 1973 a team won from 8th, and nobody complained indeed the losing team's fans stayed to applaud the winners. 1973 leeds were beaten by 8th place Dewsbury. playoffs have been around since 1907 yet people want to get rid of them because boo hoo they don't think it's fair. well get over it life's not fair either. it's a great system indeed good enough for the NRL so get over it.
    12 points
  30. I love this image that Cornwall have put on social media. The spread of clubs is great and it is really positive. It also puts the moans of clubs having 1 trip to Cornwall into some context:
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  31. Its the equivalent in Football of a team beating an other say 9-0, and you would never see a result in top flight Football in either England or Scotland- your correct it shows how bad our sport is compared to other top sports........
    12 points
  32. Hmmm. Not sure about that, seems like a bit of a sh1thouse on the field.
    12 points
  33. Doesn’t he go by “Andrew” now he’s a rugger coach?
    12 points
  34. Batley are everybody's favourite away day , they are a top club having ###### on everybody's chips at some point , their chair Kevin is a top bloke , works tirelessly for them , they deserve their day next week and as usual will give their all
    11 points
  35. Barra kick us off with a classy offering from O'Neill's...
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  36. I can understand someone being let off from a one-game ban, but not this. What Morgan Knowles did looked deliberate and was nasty. Frankly, I didn't think a two-game ban was enough in the first place.
    11 points
  37. For me it's irrelevant how much pressure was applied, grabbing the arm and pulling behind someone's back has nothing to do with a RL tackle. The technique shouldn't be allowed regardless.
    11 points
  38. BREAKING NEWS: "Oscar Pistorious is to be released from prison immediately following a successful appeal from St Helens RLFC to have his murder charge overturned".
    11 points
  39. I don't think think I've ever commented on a disciplinary matter on this forum but I couldn't keep quiet on this one. Disgusting. Utterly disgusting. One of the most horrible offences I've ever seen a player commit on a rugby league field, something at the time made me feel sick when I saw it. Everyone with even the littlest connection to the game were calling for his head. I guess everyone except the disciplinary panel anyway. I've felt myself drifting away from the game a bit over the last couple of years and this quite frankly has taken what little shred of respect I still had left towards the RFL and ripped it into tiny little pieces and ###### on them. A truly disgusting decision for a truly disgusting act. My love of rugby league is fading off into the distance and I'm not feeling too much of a need to go catch back up with it right now.
    11 points
  40. Disgusting. A cynical foul by a player who knew exactly what he was doing, and doesn't miss a single game. Corrupt
    11 points
  41. The club is so lucky now to have the training centre at the side of the stadium. The atmosphere over there before our games is absolutely brilliant and it must be making the club some good money. I went over on Friday before the game and inside was packed, so we went out to the training field at the back and sat in the stand having a couple of pints. On the training field they had the PDRL team training, touch rugby teams training and kids and families are all over the place having a kick around. As a kid I'd have absolutely loved that access. You have players and fans mingling together, there are past players down there, community clubs and the new academy lads and their families were down there as they were signing their contracts. It all just feels very joined up and I cannot remember a time it felt quite like this being a Wigan fan. The beauty of it all is that there are plenty of improvements that can be made to that fan village and hopefully this is just the start of it all.
    11 points
  42. Came to Australia to play union. Discovered rugby league Embraced by country town Plays a lot of rugby league Brings rugby league to Cameroon. https://amp.abc.net.au/article/101388698
    11 points
  43. Correct decision? I think so. Am I sad to see him go? Yes. Was it a mutual decision? Says he's taken an opportunity elsewhere (presumably Newcastle). Would we have kept him otherwise? Very talented, humble, down to earth coach who got us promoted against the odds. The last two seasons have been one of the most enjoyable followed by one of the most depressing I can remember. Chris has been nothing but committed and professional throughout and has always shown our club the respect it deserve. Thank you and good luck in the future
    11 points
  44. Currently bought: England v Greece England v France England v Samoa Scotland v Italy Tonga v Wales Australia v Italy PNG v Wales QF 1 Semi 1 Semi 2 Final Still hoping to buy: France v Greece Tonga v PNG Wales v Cook Islands Aus v Scotland Lebanon v Ireland PNG v Cook Islands NZ v Ireland Lebanon v Jamaica Samoa v France QF 2/3 QF 4 Only thing I'm waiting on is working out whether I will have the time to go to the extra ones. Dread to think of my fuel bill...
    11 points
  45. We've sorted our tickets out this week for the opener, the game the following day in Newcastle and the final. It's not as cheap as years gone by and that's a worry for some games but the England games look to be selling well and value is very good for a lot of the games outside of those. We've decided to leave the England game against France in Bolton due to the cheapest tickets left being £55 and instead will go to Lebanon vs Ireland, Tonga vs Wales and PNG vs Cook Island in the following days. Three good looking fixtures for a total of £60 is fabulous value and gives us the opportunity to watch lots of different teams. Ticket sales across the board should really start to ramp up now. Our group has got loads to buy yet. We'll probably do 3 of the 4 quarter finals and at least the London semi on top of the local group games. I absolutely loved 2013 and this one should be even better. I'm absolutely buzzing for that opening game. If we can get a full house for that game, it'll be a fantastic start and it should be a brilliant atmosphere.
    11 points
  46. It goes even deeper than that though doesn't it. The feature was a ' Rugby League heroes' section and the letter was essentially saying... I know nothing about Women's Rugby League but there is no way that any female player should be eligible for this section. It is absolutely impossible to defend this view.
    11 points
  47. It's the nature of the sport. It is totally unforgiving when it comes to exposing the superiority of one team over the over. You can't 'park the bus' in Rugby League. Just last week the NRL saw a scoreline of 72-6. The last time our top tier played theirs we hardly won a game. Rugby League is a harsh sport.
    11 points
  48. I've been to a few home games and it seemed pretty genuine that most people paid for their tickets. I agree with the comments regarding building slowly; the leadership have done a great job in promoting the games and have done well in terms of their marketing to the local media. Of course, the big benefit is that it is a summer season, but that is no guarantee of success - despite their results, Cornwall have done a great job of making it an occasion and you can tell the team have worked hard on their social media and marketing. Developing further links with schools and Union clubs is a good move. Contrary to what some might say, there is a lot of goodwill for the club to do well from these pathways - anything related to Cornwall or being Cornish stirs it up in us, and also plays into the wider 'brand Cornwall' which seems to dynamic at the moment. Keep up the good work, Cornwall RLFC - you've had a fantastic first year.
    11 points
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