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#2994377 Richard Horne

Posted by Eldujo on 12 September 2014 - 10:09 PM

One of my favourite players of the SL era. Pity the injuries robbed him of a yard or two of pace. I don't think he'd be far behind Maguire and Long with regards to being the best half back without the injuries and a more stable team.


I take it he's going into the backroom staff at Hull??

#2975889 Mike Cooper

Posted by Eldujo on 12 August 2014 - 01:53 PM

Cooper is having a great season down under and that's why he should be considered for the squad. Anyone who's playing as well as he is in either NRL or SL should be a consideration for the Four Nations squad.


Always thought he was a decent enough player at Warrington and that's what he looked like in the early part of this season. He started off with a similar role to what he had at Warrington but his continued improvement has meant he's forced his way into the starting XIII at the Dragons and he's playing many more minutes now and his tackling and metre making is first rate.


Not quite at starter level, not with Graham, Hill & George Burgess in front of him but he's turning into a very solid pro this year. I'd say he's way in front of Tom Burgess this year and would be a better bet for a place in the squad come the end of the year.

#2975195 Junior draft system

Posted by Eldujo on 11 August 2014 - 09:47 AM

Can't imagine this working here and possibly not Australia too whereas obviously it's a big success in America. I'd give two reasons for this -


1. School and College system in US is completely divorced from the professional set up. So, looking at the current champs for example, San Antonio Spurs in NBA or Seattle Seahawks in NFL do not play any part in training up the youngsters who end up on their rosters through the draft. Nor does any other professional team, that's the college and schools jobs and there's big money in it to do so, particularly at college level. Both here and down under, it's more often than not the clubs who develop this talent. Obviously the idea is to nurture this talent for their benefit, not other clubs.


I can see in the article that the NRL are trying to work around that problem by letting the parent club of the top producers cherry pick their best players. If that happens though, you'd lose any excitement the draft could generate as the best players aren't the ones being picked in the draft. You end up shuffling round the future journeymen rather than a Cherry Evans or a Luke Brooks.


Unless you have a huge money making system like College Sports in US, not sure how you can separate the junior and pro ranks effectively. America can support this due to the large population and the spread of the population and the teams. So New York city has no more than two teams in any league whereas Sydney has a whole bundle of NRL teams or London has god knows how many football teams. To go to a bigger extreme, LA has no NFL team so unsurprisingly, their college teams get huge turnouts when there's no other outlet to watch the national game in the 2nd largest city in the country.


2. Minimum Salary - Not sure exactly what the minimum is in the NBA, think it's around 0.5 million dollars. In the NFL, it's $2,270,000 over a four year contract. That covers the cost of any problems with the upheaval of moving from your home town or even your whole family. Not sure what SL would pay for a minimum contract but suspect it's not going to be more than 13 times the national average (average US wage seems to be around $40,000). NRL may do a little better on wages but I doubt they are willing to pay anything like US rates.



Still it will be interesting to see what the NRL comes up with. I wonder if drafting also includes SL players? In the US, if they want to bring in say a Spanish player, they come via the draft. Does this mean Parramatta could have signed Lee Mossop but that would have been at the cost of a draft pick?

#2973960 08-10/08/14 - The Kingstone Press Championship Match Thread

Posted by Eldujo on 08 August 2014 - 09:59 PM

Just returned from Leigh and crowd was also announced at the ground as 3565. I suspect they were hoping for a bigger travelling support from Fev but maybe the move to Friday put the kibosh on that.


Decent game with Leigh jumping out to a 20 point lead early on after Fev came close out wide a couple of times. Leigh were just that bit more clinical in the first half but Rovers nabbed a couple of close range efforts to keep themselves in it.


Second half and Fev got to within 10 but couldn't quite get the next points to make it one score game. Not long after, the dam burst following a Sam Barlow try where he powered through the defence despite plenty of attention. Shouldn't really have scored but he did and that was nighty night for Fev unfortunately. Leigh then started piling on the points. Sin binning for Gareth Moore (I think) didn't help matters and it was a very convincing victory by the time the hooter went.


Congrats to Leigh on winning the title, they are head and shoulders above the rest in the Championship this year. Let's see how they go with the two SL clubs dropping down, would not surprise anyone, I don't think, if they finish top before the split next year.


Good effort from Will Sharp tonight on a losing side. I've not seen much of him in recent years but he really put a shift in tonight.


Finally, Ridyard kicked everything once again for Leigh. I'm not sure if I ever seen him miss a kick whilst watching him live. 

#2973572 French club need a half and a prop

Posted by Eldujo on 08 August 2014 - 12:02 PM

Thought exactly the same thing


Half a prop = Danny Nutley

Prop and a half = Sam Kasiano

#2972814 Commonwealth Games Rugby League 9s

Posted by Eldujo on 07 August 2014 - 09:09 AM

To be fair to the Commonwealth committee, why should it be included when we don't even run 9s tournaments ourselves at the top levels.


We've had a grand total of one Auckland 9s down under and pretty much nothing at a professional level up here in recent times. Once/If we start putting on tournaments and showing that they can be successful and RL takes it reasonably serious, only then should they be considered.


Putting it straight into the Commonwealth Games feels a little bit cart before the horse.

#2968659 03/08/14 - Widnes Vikings v Hull KR KO 3pm

Posted by Eldujo on 31 July 2014 - 03:09 PM

big game, 4pointer for a two teams hovering around the play-off mark......i hope Dennis does not choose to rest people in advance of the semi-final as I personally think this is the more important of the two games

Not sure about that. Lose versus Cas and there goes the biggest match in recent history for the Vikings. Lose against Hull KR and it's all still to play for in the league.


Surely a visit to Wembley is bigger than a slightly worse chance of making the playoffs.

#2964775 Rugby League's popularity riding high (Merged threads)

Posted by Eldujo on 24 July 2014 - 02:14 PM

I have just read a quote from Nigel Wood where he states "The game is at an all time high with almost 39 million watching the game live-either at the ground or on television"


Which leads me to ponder how big the population of Yorkshire and Lancashire really is?


Seriously though to make a broad staement like this, one would presume there are facts to back it up, as of yet though no actual facts seem avaliable.


The plot thickens to quote anotherwell know  fictional character

The problem whenever anyone quotes how many watched the games is it doesn't (and can't) take into account that the same people watch many of the same games. So if there was 39 games on and the same million people watched all the games, do we say there was 39 million watching or 1 million.


There's always a lot of dodgy figures thrown around with regards to viewing stats. For example, whenever the Classico is on in Spain you hear of viewing figures of around 1 billion but it's nowhere near that. That's more potential viewing figures than actual. You have to take it all with a pinch of salt.

#2963431 Marwan Koukash: I'll turn rugby league into a global sport

Posted by Eldujo on 22 July 2014 - 10:40 AM

Surely there is no doubt that he has rescued Salford and slowly but surely his efforts and his  money have started to turn he club round. What a great time to be a Salford supporter, young or old..... I sxthat it? Maybe that's not what you want?

You're not wrong. What he's done is given the club hope. OK, it's not been plain sailing this year but if you go back 1 year and compare it to the current set up, don't think many will deny there's a decent improvement there. We've gone from rock bottom to playoff contender, not amazing, but not bad. Go back 2 years and you'd be surprised it's not Salford in London or Bradford's shoes.


Also, a nice touch from Salford for the Leeds game also they are renaming the South Stand as The Shed in honour of the old ground and have reduced tickets to £10 (£5 concessions) for the occassion. People might knock how he goes about his business but you can't really knock the effort he brings in trying to make Salford contenders.

#2961496 20/07/14 - Hull KR v Salford Red Devils KO 3pm

Posted by Eldujo on 19 July 2014 - 12:19 AM

Wots the story with Locke ?


Is he playing ?

He's in the 19 man squad for what it's worth. If he was close to playing last week, presume there's a fair chance he'll make it this week.


Posted by Eldujo on 17 July 2014 - 06:56 PM

Being more of a long time TV watcher of the game and only recently becoming a regular at attending, I could be very wrong here but I've never noticed an ice cream stand at any of the grounds I've been to.


Now we're a summer sport and we actually seem to be having a summer for the second year in a row, I'd have expected to see a van or one of those mobile stalls doing a roaring trade particularly on a blazing hot Saturday or Sunday afternoon game.


It's not like you'd have to do anything other than have someone on standby once you know what the weather's likely to do. Surely some grounds have this??

#2959803 Dr K to buy Newcastle Knights?

Posted by Eldujo on 16 July 2014 - 08:11 AM

I'd just woke up when I first read this. Brain was still asleep so I was thinking he was buying the RU club (yep, I know they are the Falcons when I'm more with it). 


If true, the man must like a rebuilding job as Newcastle are struggling this year. Not quite as big a job as Salford's makeover but still a bit of work to do. Presume he won't be bringing in Noble to replace Wayne Bennett.

#2959403 Matt Bowen extends Wigan stay

Posted by Eldujo on 15 July 2014 - 11:53 AM

After watching the highlights of Wigan-Catalans on the SL Show last night, can't see why this would be anything other than a good move for Wigan.


If he stays fit, he's as good if not better than any fullback in the league, including Locke and Hardaker. The calls for replacing him with Ryan Hampshire seem to have dried up as Bowen has settled in. Sure his time will come soon enough even if it's not necessarily at full back to start with.

#2957531 Tyrone McCarthy

Posted by Eldujo on 11 July 2014 - 01:02 PM

Just been checking on how PNG Hunters are getting on in the Queensland comp (W9 D1 L7) and noticed that Tyrone McCarthy bagged a try against them last week. Anyone know how he's getting on down under? His team are the top of the ladder so presume it's been a good move for him.


Did he jump or he was he nudged out at Warrington? Always thought he was a decent enough prospect and a like-able character. Also, he was well ahead of the curve when it came to the caveman beard plenty of players are now rocking.


For fans of ex-Wire youngsters in far flung places, Rhys Williams also scored for Central Queensland Capras in the same round.


Highlights from the PNG-Northern Pride game are in the link below. McCarthy scores right off the bat but highlights are probably worth watching for the 4 try effort in a losing team from the PNG winger, Garry Lo. That lad can shift.



#2956801 The best investment the RFL/SL clubs could make is ?

Posted by Eldujo on 09 July 2014 - 12:08 PM

I'd say investment in youth systems here rather than sending a squad down under would end up more beneficial. Think of the cost of travel, housing, feeding and generally looking after players for starters.


Maybe raising the limit of the U19s league to U21s or even 23s to give players more time to bloom would be better. Plus better links & investment in local youth clubs is a necessity. Whether all clubs have the funds to do this, I don't know. but it seems Warrington are making a decent stab at it as mentioned on a different thread (or could have been on Guardian's Set of Six comments)


It's a long way to send a bunch of kids and then expect them to bond and progress away from friends and family. Also suspect it would end up being a bigger boon to the NRL than SL as they'd be snapped up by local clubs.