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  1. Union has bitten back against their Murdoch paymasters by jumping into bed with ESPN this season. Next time round, Sky will pay far more for union to stop ESPN taking "their" sport away from them permanently, especially given how little it actually costs them compared to football.

    It has probably cost the RFU money from losing "exclusivity" but then it gives them a much bigger bargaining chip next time by showing Sky they're serious about walking away if they don't get enough money.

    Sky were aware the RFU had split the GP up into two packages, they only bid for one of them so there is nothing to suggest they will be paying far more to get both packages next time. The 2 packages together cost more than the single one the previous time.

  2. They were coaching at Woodhouse Grove, a fee-paying independent school where the boys historically only play rugby union against other public schools. The school and the (former) Bulls training centre are on adjoining sections of land at Apperley Bridge.

    I have no beef with them training anybody - I just thought it a bit odd to have their training center at a school with no real interest in rugby league,

  3. the only way RL will get any kind of national coverage in the media will be if we force them to.. if the game becomes so popular that they will have to relent. and for that to happen we need major investment in the sport from a number of different sponsors

    As far as I am aware the top 30 club rugby attendances of all time wouldn't include a single union match - yet which sport is claiming with a lot of success in the media that various of its games have broken the club rugby attendance record?

  4. listening to a croat tell you how they escaped sarajevo in the back of a chocolate truck in the early 90's is quite disturbing.

    Listening to some serbians tell you what happened when they managed to get back to their village after the croats had just left was also disturbing. I spent several months on a campsite in holland in the early 90s - there were quite a few serbs there, mostly deserters - nasty stories from all sides.

  5. I'm not quite as pessimistic. The game is big down in Australia and I can see them making real gains over the next ten years, Perth look a certainty for 2013 and a second NZ team or even a PNG team could follow a few years after. Yes the game could sink into obscurity in Britain, but I'm fairly optimistic that we'll win the war of the codes down under. So in a sense, even in the most pessimistic scenario in Europe, the game would be strong on another continent.

    where do you live?

  6. The RFL have spent a lot of money wining and dining London based sports editors and writers and every single penny of that money has been a waste. The London media don't give a toss anout rugby league. Chris Irvine should have known the writing was on the wall when Stephen Jones used several of his many articles to laugh about rugby league being sidelined by his paper and becoming mostly an online afterthought - once the paywall went up even that afterthought wasn't worth persevering with.

    The problem will only get worse, there is no career to be had in rugby league journalism other than as a local reporter. Once what remains of the current crop of freelancers who get an occasional match report published nationally hang up their pens the other papers will just drop coverage other than to put some press wire stuff up occasionally, send some snooty, condescending ###### to a final every now and again or mobilise their brightest teams of investigative journalists if an aussie player forgets to tip a waiter.

  7. London sports desks are consumed now by football year-round. Its locust-like influence has left a scorched earth of flattened and trampled sports, rugby league among them. Pick up any newspaper and you often struggle to find much more than soccer in the "sports" pages.

    The most recent Sunday Times: lots of soccer, a couple of pages of cricket, an article about a south african bloke who runs on springs, big article on swimming, a page of golf, some tennis, big article about some woman who plays union - and a tiny bit of RL squeezed in the margin of the article about the union woman. Soccer isn't all the papers care about, they cover many sports - unfortunately it is generally the case that RL isn't one of them.

  8. Not really bothered as to what the reasoning is behind his choice, I just think it's a fantastic decision to honour Steve Prescott in this way.

    I agree, after most media outlets shamefully ignored him when he received an MBE it's good for the game itself to recognise the great work he has done. The fact is that rugby league is pretty much on its own so the game has to celebrate itself and its players

  9. A big cull is just around the corner! There was a piece on the Today programme this morning and apparently in America one outlet has been running computer generated stories covering sports events and people can't tell which have been written by humans and which have been written by the computers and there stock phrases.

    If there's money to be saved its bound to catch on in the Murdoch empire!

    I have just written a program to reproduce the Times rugby league coverage for a period of about 2 months at the beginning of this year. I have provided the source code below - it is platform agnostic so should run ok on whatever computer you have:


  10. What promotion are you talking about??

    Sky currently broadcasts Origin from Aussie, SL & RL from league beneath SL as well as international RL. It also broadcasts the RLWC (I think). As well as that there are magazine programmes on Brit RL then highlights programmes from NRL.

    What else should it do?

    The Irish version of 'The Sunday Times' is a large seller in Ireland.

    The days of that rag being a purely 'British newspaper' are long gone.

    Irish union gets lots of coverage in the british version of The Times.

    Sky should promote some of its RL programmes - it doesn't even think RL is rugby but this has all been covered before.

  11. Some money? They get market value for a healthy amount of coverage on TV.

    Murdoch is the single biggest private funder of RL anywhere via TV rights and ownerships unless I'm much mistaken.

    It gets enough to keep it ticking over but it's not one of Sky's preferred sports so gets little promotion. The Times is one of Murdochs papers but it gave rugby league the minimum amount of coverage and has now decided even that was too much. Don't worry, irish union will still get a lot of coverage in a british paper.

  12. I bought the Times regularly and frequently and The Sunday Times only when I needed something to make me angry when my mother in law wasn't around. When the on line edition when paywall, I ceased buying the paper at all.

    For Chris, hard though this is, it may well represent an opportunity for him to use his skill, ability , knowledge, experience etc more widely. The RFL has a vacancy for a Education and Training Specialist. Maybe Chris could train and educate the RFL in the ways of the media. He'd have a job for life!

    It is a shame that we are losing writers in this way, though, especially given the ownership of The Times. Just the feeling that the RFL are just not getting the best out of the Sky relationship.

    The RFL are getting some money from Sky and that's about it, Sky do very well from the deal, RL gets marginalised and treated with contempt in the general media.

    I will occasionally buy the Times if I don't have internet access but I can't recall ever having made that purchasing decision because of its RL coverage.

  13. The real question that the paranoid on here should ponder is how many readers will the 'Times' lose by cutting its already miniscule RL coverage? The answer is almost certainly none. I think this is a commercial decision - they need to make savings due to reduced income in the current economic climate so they're getting rid of someone who effectively doesn't matter in their scheme of things.

    I doubt anybody bought the Times for its rugby league coverage - it's coverage was miniscule at best with an occasional brief match report often in the sports round up section - it went 2 months at the beginning of the year with no mention of the sport at all. This won't lose the Times any readers - it won't lose them any of the handful of people who pay to peek behind the pay wall. It's just a great shame that national newspapers hold the sport in such contempt. News Ltd certainly seem keen to marginalise rugby league as much as possible.

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