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  1. ELIMINATED

    No eliminations this round

    Better luck in heat 3, later in the season all those who were eliminated.

    SURVIVED

    Dee Deuce - Panthers - Storm - Sea Eagles - Eels

    Irish Saint - Panthers - Eels - Titans - Sea Eagles

    Oldbear - Eels - Storm - Panthers - Sea Eagles

    Cameron Highlander - Eels - Storm - Dragons - Rabbitohs

    Spotty Herbert - Roosters - Storm - Panthers - Raiders 

    Harrigan - Eels - Storm - Panthers - Sea Eagles

    Well done all those who survived.

    ROUND 11 

    THURSDAY MAY 20

    Cowboys vs Knights, Queensland Country Bank Stadium, 7.50pm

    FRIDAY MAY 21

    Warriors vs Tigers, Mt Smart Stadium, 6pm

    Sharks vs Dragons, Netstrata Jubilee Stadium, 7.55pm

    SATURDAY MAY 22

    Titans vs Bulldogs, Cbus Super Stadium, 3pm

    Roosters vs Broncos, SCG, 5.30pm

    Raiders vs Storm, GIO Stadium, 7.35pm

    SUNDAY MAY 23

    Rabbitohs vs Panthers, Dubbo, 2pm

    Eels vs Sea Eagles, Bankwest Stadium, 4.05pm

     

  2. THIS IS WHAT COMES INTO CONSIDERATION IF THERE IS TO BE A THIRD TRIAL

    Will DPP move for the third trial against NRL stars Jack de Belin and Callan Sinclair?

    Two hung juries, three shattered lives, where to now? There will need to be exceptional circumstances to hold a third trial over rape allegations against NRL stars Jack de Belin and Callan Sinclair.
    Will NRL star Jack de Belin stand trial over rape allegations for the third time? The multimillion-dollar question will ultimately come down to the call of the state’s Director of Public Prosecutions Lloyd Babb SC and his deputies.
    But it will not just be a gut feeling call.
    Two hung juries and the possibility of a third trial is an extremely rare situation.
    But the Office of the DPP has guidelines that set out what must be considered when deciding to prosecute for a third time.
    Under the NRL’s “no-fault stand-down policy”, de Belin, 30, a high-profile player for the St George-Illawarra Dragons, has not played a game since he was charged in December 2018.
    De Belin and Shellharbour Sharks player Callan Sinclair are accused of raping a woman at a North Wollongong unit during a night out in December 2018.
    Since then, two trials in the District Court have resulted in divided jurors unable to reach an agreement on whether the two men are guilty or not.
    Asked this week if Mr. Babb had come to a decision, a ODPP spokeswoman said: “No decision has been made concerning whether the matter will proceed to a further trial. A decision will be made before the matter is next in court.”
    ODPP insiders were more clear in telling The Saturday Telegraph that a third trial was unlikely, but not impossible.
    The main reason for a third trial not happening was because of the circumstances where two juries were divided, with little reason to believe a third set of jurors would be any different — making it a pointless exercise.
    One insider said: “There is absolutely 99.99 per cent chance that they will not do it again — not after two hung juries.”
    Another had a different view.
    “Officially, the ODPP is only concerned with applying the law. But this is an extremely high-profile matter, and to be seen to be dropping the case could be interpreted as backing down, so it might be run again anyway.”
    During the last court appearance, after the second jury were discharged, Crown Prosecutor David Scully SC told Judge Nicole Noman SC that the ODPP would consider its position and update the court on whether a third trial would occur when the matter next appeared in court, on May 28.
    Until then, let’s take a look at what Mr Babb will have to consider.
    According to the ODPP’s Prosecution Guidelines, it is a simple equation and comes down to one factor.
    “Where two juries have been unable to agree upon a verdict, a retrial will be directed only in exceptional circumstances,” the guidelines say. “Any such direction must be given by the Director or a Deputy Director.”
    It sounds simple, but there are some complexities when it comes to “exceptional circumstances”.
    So what are they?
    EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES
    Exceptional circumstances is a conveniently broad term and no definition is given in the prosecution guidelines.
    But one DPP source said there were three major factors when considering if exceptional circumstances exist.
    The first is: Is there new and compelling evidence to warrant hearing the case again?
    “But we’re not talking small meaningless evidence,” the source said. “It has to be new and compelling evidence that could push the jury to a decision in either direction.
    “If not, there is no point going to all the cost of hearing the case again if it’s going to be a hung jury again,” the source said.
    The second factor considers the reason why the jurors could not come to a decision in the first two trials.
    This supports an argument for de Belin not standing trial a third time.
    “If the juries were discharged for reasons other than they couldn’t come to a unanimous decision, this could be considered as an exceptional circumstance,” the ODPP source said.
    “(Examples would be) If jurors were discharged for researching things on the internet or if one of them was sick — it goes to if there is a possibility that the jurors could reach a decision and didn’t get the chance,” the source said.
    The third factor is whether the jury was close to reaching a unanimous decision in one or both of the earlier trials.
    In these cases, they weren’t.
    Towards the end of the second trial, Judge Noman asked the jury if they were close to a majority verdict.
    This means the jury could be allowed to declare a verdict if there was an 11-1 split between what the jurors thought the verdict should be.
    Usually, the courts require all 12 jurors to agree on the verdict.
    The jury informed judge Noman that this was not the case, indicating that the jury was divided and could not even come to a majority verdict.
    From a legal perspective, it supports the argument for not running the case again, the DPP source said.
    “Twice the jury couldn’t agree — and there is nothing to suggest anything will change if they go for a third time,” the source said.
    COSTS IN THE MILLIONS
    The other elements that will come up for consideration are the public interest and the cost to both accused to run the trial a third time — and whether either can be justified.
    Both are simple considerations, and weigh up the benefits of what will be achieved through a third trial, as well as the cost to the public purse and both footballers.
    On the public side of it, the costs will include the resources used for the trial that include a crown prosecutor for another two-week trial, their solicitors, the time allocated for the judge to hear the case and everything down to the court that will be used.
    “The question will be: Is a third time for the case more important than the other cases the lawyers could be working on, that the judge could be hearing and that the courtroom could be used for?” the DPP source said.
    For de Belin and Sinclair, the case would have come at a huge financial cost to hire lawyers to defend them and — particularly for de Belin — the amount of money he has lost by not playing for the St George-Illawarra Dragons.
    So is it fair that they have to pay again?
    This needs to be weighed up against the likelihood that the jury will reach a verdict.
    One defence lawyer estimated that de Belin — who has retained David Campbell SC to defend him — would be closing in on $1 million for his court costs.
    So far, de Belin has retained barristers and solicitors to defend him for two criminal trials — the last of which ran for 2½ weeks — and his challenge to the Federal Court of Australia against the NRL’s no-fault stand-down policy.
    “To give you a picture, his barrister would cost anywhere from $7000 to $10,000 a day and his solicitors would likely charge $3000 to $4000 a day,” the criminal lawyer said.
    “And there is also preparation time that needs to be paid for if I was doing this trial,” the lawyer said. “I did a similar trial and charged for a week of prep time because that is how long you need to spend examining the material to defend someone.”
    Given the way the cases have played out, there is next to no chance that the court could order the ODPP to pay De Belin and Sinclair’s legal fees.
    In short, if a case goes spectacularly badly for the prosecution, the judge can make an order that the ODPP pay the legal costs of the accused.
    But the DPP source said this would not happen.
    “The fact that there has been two hung juries means there was a prima facie case,” the source said. “You don’t get costs orders in lineball cases.”
    A prima facie case means there was enough evidence to justify prosecutors bringing a case to court.
    “But this needs to be weighed up against the idea that you can’t just keep pounding an accused with trial after trial,” the DPP source said.
    THE ALLEGED VICTIM AND THE POLICE
    The DPP will also consider the opinions of the alleged victim in the case and the police when making the decision about a third trial.
    One of the primary considerations is the mental health of the woman.
    Will it be damaging to her psychologically to expect her to give evidence, in what can be a combative environment, for a third time?
    Or should a recording of her evidence from the first two trials be played to a jury in the third trial to avoid this?
    But if it is just a recording from two cases where two juries could not decide, is there any expectation that a third jury would come to a different decision to the first two?
    The police are also key stakeholders in that they collected all of the evidence used to prosecute the case, so they need to have a say.
    Police close to the case said they believed a third trial was unlikely because of the inevitable extra trauma the alleged victim would face.
    The high-profile case had also taken its toll on other prosecution witnesses.
    But they stressed no decision had been made and it was still on the “discussion table” and being considered very carefully.
    Ultimately the final decision lay with the DPP, police said.
    The alleged victim declined to comment.
    To some observers, it may seem unusual that de Belin and Sinclair could be found not guilty of charges they anally raped the complainant but that the jury could still be undecided on charges relating to the rest of the alleged sexual assault.
    According to one criminal defence lawyer, this is because each of the charges de Belin and Sinclair face relate to individual and specific acts that allegedly occurred.
    “In this case, you’ve got to have the physical element — the act — and the mental element — the intent to do it,” the lawyer said. “If it occurred accidentally and there was no intent the person can’t be guilty of the offence.”
    The evidence in the case appeared to back this theory.
    In court, the complainant agreed she was facing de Belin with her back to the wall and claimed he turned her legs to the side and deliberately tried to penetrate her other orifice.
    “And that’s when I screamed ‘stop’ because it really hurt,” the woman told the court.
    Asked by Crown Prosecutor David Scully what happened next, she replied: “He took it out.”
    “Did he say anything?” Mr Scully continued.
    “I think he said ‘sorry’,” she responded.
    De Belin gave a similar account and gave evidence that “(I) accidentally prodded my penis inside … the wrong hole”.
    “I could tell she grimaced and it wasn’t pleasant and said ‘oh’. I said ‘sorry’,” he told the court.
    De Belin told the court “I asked her if she could help a brother out” and she guided him from there before the sex resumed, the court heard.
    JUDGE ALONE TRIAL
    If the trial was to be heard in front of a judge alone without a jury, it would be up for de Belin and Sinclair’s legal teams to argue for it.
    This has not occurred so far.
    AFFIRMATIVE CONSENT
    Rape trials can live or die on the issue of consent.
    A complainant alleges she did not consent and the accused ought to have known that, while the accused argues she actually was consenting, or that he had a reasonable belief in consent.
    There is no obligation for the accused to give evidence, so the focus falls on the alleged victim to explain what she did or didn’t do to articulate her lack of consent.
    In de Belin’s case, the complainant spent more than three days in the witness box answering questions in minute detail about her actions that night.
    Did she look fondly into de Belin’s eyes? Why was she seen laughing with De Belin and Sinclair after the alleged assault if she really was raped?
    A jury’s task in deciding whether there was no consent and whether the accused had no reasonable grounds for believing there was has been likened to mental gymnastics.
    There is the legal definition of consent and then trying to decide what the accused’s state of mind was at the time.
    On top of that, there are the judge’s directions that a jury must take on board during deliberations and their own assessment of the alleged victim’s credibility.
    It is estimated less than 10 per cent of all sexual assaults reported to NSW Police result in finalised charges in court.
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  3. ELIMINATED

    StormGirl - Panthers - Rabbitohs - No pick entered

    Better luck in heat 3, later in the season all those who were eliminated.

    SURVIVED

    Dee Deuce - Panthers - Storm - Sea Eagles

    Irish Saint - Panthers - Eels - Titans

    Oldbear - Eels - Storm - Panthers

    Cameron Highlander - Eels - Storm - Dragons

    Spotty Herbert - Roosters - Storm - Panthers

    Harrigan - Eels - Storm - Panthers

    Well done all those who survived.

    ROUND 10 - (Magic Round, All Games Played At Suncorp Stadium In Queensland This Round)

    THURSDAY MAY 13

    NO GAME TO BE PLAYED THURSDAY NIGHT

    FRIDAY MAY 14

    Tigers vs Knights, 6pm

    Sea Eagles vs Broncos, 7.55pm 

    SATURDAY MAY 15

    Bulldogs vs Raiders, 3pm

    Sharks vs Rabbitohs, 5.30pm

    Roosters vs Cowboys, 7.45pm

    SUNDAY MAY 16

    Warriors vs Eels, 1.50pm

    Storm vs Dragons, 4.05pm

    Titans vs Panthers, 6.25pm

     

  4. My thoughts on this subject I started talking about back in 1982 when the Canberra Raiders & the Illawarra Steelers came into the then NSWRFL competition and made it a 14 team competition for the first time.

    I agree 100% of the idea of relegation & promotion in the NRL and I votes yes for it in both polls. Bellow is my differences to what is in the media in Australia today.

    1...It should be 14 teams in division 1 & division 2.

    2...Each team in both divisions play each other twice, in a home & away set of 26 rounds followed by a 5 team semi finals series in both divisions

    3...The salary cap has to be even across both divisions.

    4. The idea of teams in the 2nd division lending their star players to the teams in the 1st division does not make sense to me (What I see with that is, the 2nd division clubs being nothing more than feeder clubs to the 1st division clubs) The 2nd division clubs would need their star players to help them get out of 2nd division and into the 1st division competition the following year.

    5. I am also open to the idea of last place in 1st division playing the premiers of 2nd division at the end of the semi final series to see who gets promoted or relegated, but don't feel as strong on that to the other 4 differences above. 

    Please add your ideas on this subject of promotion & relegation below.

     

  5. The future of rugby league has been the subject of much debate around conferences, expansion and bush footy. Here’s a solution....Story By Phil (Buzz) Rothfield

     

    Bring back the North Sydney Bears and, while we’re at it, the Newtown Jets.

    And do it without affecting the quality of the NRL competition.

    The future of rugby league has been the subject of much debate around conferences, expansion, a lopsided competition and the survival of bush footy.

    One option the NRL should consider is promotion and relegation like in UK soccer.

    Relegate two clubs to have a streamlined 14-team NRL premiership and a 10-team Championship (2nd division.)

    Here’s how it would work.

    The two-conference proposal first raised seven years ago in this newspaper will not improve the standard of the product each week.

    It will actually make it worse in that there are not enough quality football players to fill 16 teams, let alone 18.

    The gap between the top and bottom teams is too great. We see it every week.

    Reducing the number of teams will create a much stronger NRL competition with fewer blowouts and more regular blockbusters.

    Players that aren’t quite first graders can join a Championship team.

    THE DESPERATION

    There would be as much interest in the bottom end of the ladder as the top.

    Lower teams would be as desperate to avoid relegation as top clubs are to make the finals.

    It would add huge interest at the back end of the season to games that are normally dead rubbers.

    This will surely increase the quality of football, attendances and television ratings.

    Imagine the interest if St George-Illawarra was playing the Wests Tigers and needed to win to avoid relegation in the final round. You’d need a big stadium.

    DETAILS AT A GLANCE

     

    * Initially two teams relegated from bottom of the ladder

    * 1 team promoted and relegated each year

    * 14 strong NRL clubs

    * New 10-team Championship (2nd division)

    * Not as many blowouts

    * More blockbuster games

    * Huge interest in bottom placed NRL teams late in season

    * Huge interest in top Championship teams late in season 

    * Brings back the Bears and Newtown 

    * Puts the onus on the clubs to get their houses in order 

    * Massive boost for bush football

    * League on the Central Coast

    * Loan player arrangements for promoted clubs

    * Championship match of the round on TV Wednesday nights

    DEMOTED NRL CLUBS

    The bottom two teams on the premiership ladder would initially drop to The Championship.

    Then the bottom team each year would be relegated.

    It sounds harsh and there would no doubt be met with outrage by fans of underperforming NRL clubs like the Wests Tigers, the Canterbury Bulldogs or even the Cronulla Sharks.

    However tough and not always fan-friendly calls need to be made.

    Uncompetitive teams on the receiving end of blowouts each week are hurting the quality of the NRL competition.

    Let them go back to The Championship, get their house in order, then try to make it back through better management.

    This will force them to think smarter and run a business as well as clubs like the Roosters, Rabbitohs, Storm and the Parramatta Eels.

    THE PLAYERS

    So what happens to the star NRL players from the clubs that are demoted?

    The players could be lent to clubs in the NRL competition. Like Melbourne Storm, the Wests Tigers and Harry Grant last year. It can be done.

    The promoted Championship club each year would get first crack in a draft for these players.

    NRL 14-TEAM COMP

    $10 million salary cap

    Teams: Panthers, Storm, Eels, Roosters, Raiders, Rabbitohs, Knights, Sharks, Titans

    Warriors, Manly, Dragons, Broncos, Cowboys

    * Play each other twice

    * Top 5 finals series

    * Bottom team drops to Championship

     

    THE CHAMPIONSHIP

    Imagine the excitement around a fairytale return for traditional old clubs like the North Sydney Bears and the Newtown Jets.

    While these clubs at the moment are nowhere near in a position to be running an NRL side, this at least leaves the door ever so slightly ajar for it to happen in the future.

    Both clubs still have enormous fan bases.

    The Championship 10-team competition would also put rugby league back on the Central Coast.

    This is a thriving rugby league area but lacks enough corporate support to have an NRL franchise. This would change if they won The Championship.

    It would also be a way help new expansion clubs like a second Brisbane or New Zealand team get their introductions into a professional environment.

    Teams would have a salary cap of $4 million.

    CHAMPIONSHIP 10-TEAM COMP

    $4 million salary cap

    Teams: Wests Tigers, 2nd Brisbane team, Bulldogs, Wellington (NZ), NSW Country, Perth, Central Coast, North Sydney Bears, Newtown, Mackay

    NSW COUNTRY

    This would give country football the lift and revitalisation it so desperately needs.

    The side could be based out of the Riverina, (population 155,000) and once a rugby league heartland before the AFL steamrolled into Wagga Wagga.

    It could be a satellite team playing home games in country towns like Dubbo, Bathurst, Mudgee, Tamworth, Armidale and Coffs Harbour but the majority of games out of the Riverina.

    It would mean high quality rugby league in the bush every weekend. Youngsters in country towns would dream of making the side and getting TV exposure along a pathway to the NRL.

    TV COVERAGE

    Having two competitions would allow the NRL to spread the coverage of the game around the TV networks, like what happens with major sport in the United States.

    All Championship matches would be covered on TV as well as NRL.

    The match of the round could become a regular Wednesday night game on Fox Sports.

    THE REACTION

    Peter V’Landys has always said he will listen to the fans. This is fantastic.

    However you can’t be completely driven by the parochialism of rugby league supporters.

    There will be initial pain but tough decisions need to be made in big business and in sport.

  6. ELIMINATED

    R L Winger - Storm - Dragons

    Graham - Eels - Dragons

    Stoney100 - Eels - Titans

    My Missus - Roosters - No Pick Entered

    Dunbar - Panthers - No Pick Entered

    Better luck in heat 3, later in the season all those who were eliminated.

    SURVIVED

    Dee Deuce - Panthers - Storm

    Irish Saint - Panthers - Eels

    Oldbear - Eels - Storm

    StormGirl - Panthers - Rabbitohs

    Cameron Highlander - Eels - Storm

    Spotty Herbert - Roosters - Storm

    Harrigan - Eels - Storm

    Well done all those who survived.

    ROUND 9

    THURSDAY MAY 6

    Rabbitohs vs Storm ANZ Stadium, 7.50pm

    FRIDAY MAY 7

    Panthers vs Sharks, Panthers Stadium, 6pm

    Eels vs Roosters, Bankwest Stadium, 7.55pm

    SATURDAY MAY 8

    Raiders vs Knights, Wagga Stadium, 3pm

    Tigers vs Titans, Campbelltown Stadium, 5.30pm

    Cowboys vs Broncos, Queensland Country Bank Stadium, 7.35pm

    SUNDAY MAY 9

    Sea Eagles vs Warriors, Lottoland, 2pm

    Dragons vs Bulldogs, Netstrata Jubilee Stadium, 4.05pm

     

     

  7. A secret dossier given to NRL clubs has revealed the bombshell plan to revolutionise the game.

    The NRL has taken a huge step forward in it plans to split the competition into two conferences as part of its expansion plans for the 2023 season.

    The league has previously flirted with the concept of a divided competition, but it emerged on Tuesday night the league is more serious than ever about the plan to turn the competition on its head.

    NRL CEO Andrew Abdo last month put the 18-team conference system on the table for public discussion and it was reported Tuesday the plan has advanced to the stage of discussions with the 16 NRL clubs. He also claimed the New Zealand market was the perfect destination for an 18th club. The second Kiwi team would join a 17th team from Brisbane, which is on track to be introduced for the start of the 2023 season — when the NRL’s new TV rights deal would begin.

    The leading contenders to become the NRL’s 17th team are the Redcliffe Dolphins, who have lodged a Brisbane Dolphins trademark, the Brisbane Jets — a coalition of the Brisbane Bombers and Ipswich Jets — and the Easts Tigers-backed Brisbane Firehawks

    Andrew Abdo and Peter V’landys have been meeting with clubs. Channel 7 reported Tuesday night the NRL executives have been handing the clubs a secret dossier with the details of the proposed 18-team competition that would divide the league into two conferences made up of nine teams.

    Bennett last month went public with his support of the concept

    “I think they should play in conferences, I’ve always argued for conferences,” Bennett said.

    “I think Sydney do themselves a great disservice by not playing each other on a regular basis home-and-away because that’s what the fans want in Sydney.

    “(Sydney fans) embrace the national league but they also embrace the club rivalry and unless you’re living in Sydney you don’t realise how strong it is,” Bennett said.

    “It’s what people outside of Sydney don’t get about Sydney is the genuine rivalry between the clubs here.

    The two conference system would include a Sydney-based conference and a conference made up of the teams outside Sydney.

    The proposal includes the nine clubs in each conference playing each other twice, and playing the clubs in the other conference once — expanding the season to a 25-game home-and-away competition.

    It will also result in an overhaul of the finals system with the proposal outlining plans to have the best four teams from each conference qualify for the finals.

    The two conferences would then have separate finals systems before the best club from each conference clash for the NRL Grand Final.

    It comes after the NRL last year flirted with the idea of breaking the competition into two conferences as part of the plan to re-start the season following the COVID-19 season shutdown.

    The NRL in 2019 also investigated a proposal to expand the finals system with a wildcard weekend that would see teams from 7th to 10th play off for a chance to secure a spot in the top eight. The proposal was designed to eliminate the number of games played that had no impact on the make-up of the finals.

    How the NRL conferences would look

    Sydney conference: Roosters, Rabbitohs, Eels, Bulldogs, Tigers, Panthers, Dragons, Sharks, Sea Eagles

    Expansion conference: Broncos, Titans, Cowboys, Storm, Warriors, Knights, Raiders, second Brisbane franchise, second New Zealand franchise

    How the season would work:

    The nine teams from each conference play each other twice (16 games) and each team from the other conference once (nine games)

    How the finals system would work

    Each conference would have a top four group of teams that qualify for the finals. The finals would then unfold as separate competitions in an elimination format that would begin with 1vs4 and 2vs3. The winners of each conference would then play for the NRL grand final.

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  8. ELIMINATED

    No one was eliminated this round

    Better luck in heat 3, later in the season all those who were eliminated.

    SURVIVED

    R L Winger - Storm

    Dee Deuce - Panthers

    Graham - Eels

    Irish Saint - Panthers

    Oldbear - Eels

    StormGirl - Panthers

    Cameron Highlander - Eels

    Spotty Herbert - Roosters

    Harrigan - Eels

    My Missus - Roosters

    Stoney100 - Eels

    Dunbar - Panthers

    Well done all those who survived.

    ROUND 8

    THURSDAY APRIL 29

    Raiders vs Rabbitohs, GIO Stadium, 7.50pm

    FRIDAY APRIL 30

    Storm vs Sharks, AAMI Park, 6pm

    Broncos vs Titans, Suncorp Stadium, 7.55pm

    SATURDAY MAY 1

    Panthers vs Sea Eagles, Carrington Park, 3pm

    Bulldogs vs Eels, ANZ Stadium, 5.30pm

    Knights vs Roosters, McDonald Jones Stadium, 7.35pm

    SUNDAY MAY 2

    Warriors vs Cowboys, Central Coast Stadium, 2pm

    Dragons vs Tigers, WIN Stadium, 4.05pm

  9. SAME STUFF REPEATED FROM THE LAST TRIAL!!!
    Jack de Belin, Callan Sinclair trial hears housemate lied about seeing footballers
    A key witness in the sexual assault trial of NRL star Jack de Belin has admitted in court he lied to police.
    A man who lived at the unit where NRL star Jack de Belin allegedly raped a teenager alongside friend Callan Sinclair has admitted he lied to police about what he saw that night because he didn’t want to reveal the footballer was cheating on his girlfriend.
    Troy Martin has told the men’s District Court trial he deliberately misled police by telling them he slept through the incident at the North Wollongong townhouse he shared with Mr de Belin’s cousin Jake Lewis.
    He told the court he actually woke to “murmurs” inside the home before walking to Mr Lewis’s bedroom where he saw a nude Mr de Belin at the foot of a bed, the naked woman lying on her back and Mr Sinclair standing nearby fully clothed.
    On day six of their trial, witness Mr Martin was asked by Mr de Belin’s barrister David Campbell SC why he lied when interviewed by police on the night of the incident, with the court hearing officers had only told him they were investigating a “serious matter”.
    “Once (I was) driving to the police station I realised I didn’t want to be involved in whatever happened … so I tried to say as little as possible to protect myself,” he said.
    Mr Scully also put to Mr Martin that his story about Mr de Belin leaving the bedroom to talk just as he was about to have sex with the woman was “complete fiction”.
    “I suggest to you that you are deliberately lying to this jury about this whole scenario about Mr de Belin coming out of the bedroom naked and having a chat with you,” Mr Scully said.
    Mr Martin replied: “I disagree.”
    On Wednesday the jury was also played audio of evidence given by tuktuk driver Gary Port at the men’s previous trial in November that could not be concluded.
    Mr Port said he picked up who he now knew to be Mr de Belin, Mr Sinclair and the woman at the end of Crown Street mall in the early hours of December 9, 2018.
    He said Mr de Belin – who he referred to as the “gentleman with the Akubra” – repeated “You’ll have to trust me” when asked several times for a drop-off address.
    Mr Port the lack of a clear answer caused him to “become alerted”.
    The driver said Mr de Belin directed him to a steep hill that he refused to peddle up and the trio hopped out, with the footballer handing him a $50 note.
    Mr Port said after hopping out of the tuktuk Mr de Belin said to the group “we’re going up the hill”, which drew protest from the woman.
    “I heard the girl distinctly what she said … ‘like ###### are we’,” he said.
    The court has heard evidence from the woman that she was reluctant to go inside the townhouse where she was allegedly raped. She claimed she only did so to use the toilet.
    After being paid, Mr Port said he left straight away and at the time had no idea who Mr de Belin was: “wouldn’t have if I fell over him”.
    He had a memory of the woman on the back flashing passing cars while on the journey but said he couldn’t be sure whether that incident occurred during a different fare.
    The trial before Judge Nicole Noman continues.
  10. 18 hours ago, DoubleD said:

    With the abundance of talent that Australia have, particularly at full back, if everyone is fit then there’s going to be some unlucky players missing out. Who would you have in the back 5? Here’s a first stab, which means Papenhuizen misses out but I’d have him on the bench. A couple of square pegs in round holes but I can’t think of better. Wighton, Ponga, J Morris and Best also unlucky although Wighton might get a gig at 6 if Keary is out

    1. Tedesco

    2. Gagai

    3. T Turbo

    4. Mitchell

    5. B Morris

     

    Brett Morris retired from representative rugby league a few years ago

  11. ELIMINATED

    ROUND 1

    StormGirl - Titans

    Irish Saint - Titans

    ROUND 2

    Dallas Mead - Knights - Warriors

    Kayakman - Raiders - Cowboys

    Railway End - Eels - Cowboys

    The Rocket - Sharks - Cowboys

    Manxmanc - Raiders - No Pick Entered

    Sports Prophet - Raiders - No Pick Entered

    The Red Rooster - Eels - No Pick Entered

    Stoney100 - Panthers - No Pick Entered

    ROUND 3

    Rage - Roosters - Rabbitohs - Raiders

    Harrigan - Eels - Rabbitohs - Knights

    Spotty Herbert - Raiders - Panthers

    JimBronco - Panthers - Knights - No Pick Entered

    ROUND 4

    Oldbear - Raiders - Rabbitohs - Knights

    BETTER LUCK IN HEAT 2 FURTHER ALONG IN THE SEASON, ALL THOSE ELIMINATED

    ROUND 5

    Graham - Knights - Raiders - Eels - Rabbitohs - Warriors

    Dunbar - Raiders - Rabbitohs - Broncos - Storm - Warriors

    ROUND 6

    Cameron Highlander - Raiders - Rabbitohs - Dragons - Roosters - Storm - Titans

    Dee Deuce - Panthers - Roosters - Eels - Rabbitohs - Storm - Dragons

    SURVIVED

    R L Winger - Roosters - Raiders - Eels - Rabbitohs - Storm - Cowboys

    WELL DONE R L WINGER - HEAT 1 WINNER

    WE HAVE A WINNER FOR HEAT 1

    AND IT'S ME.

    CLICK ON THE LINK BELOW TO PUT IN YOUR PICK FOR HEAT 2.....NRL ROUND 7.....ALL FORUM MEMBERS WELCOME TO JOIN IN.

    2021 TOTAL RL FORUMS NRL SURVIVOR ELIMINATION COMP HEAT 2...POST YOUR PICK NOW FOR NRL ROUND 7 - The Australian Rugby League Forum - Total Rugby League Fans Forum

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  12. ROUND 7

    THURSDAY APRIL 22

    Panthers vs Knights, Panthers Stadium, 7.50pm

    FRIDAY APRIL 23

    Titans vs Rabbitohs, Cbus Super Stadium, 6pm

    Eels vs Broncos, TIO Stadium, 7.55pm

    SATURDAY APRIL 24

    Sharks vs Bulldogs, Netstrata Jubilee Stadium, 5.30pm

    Cowboys vs Raiders, Queensland Country Bank Stadium, 7.35pm

    SUNDAY APRIL 25

    Tigers vs Sea Eagles, Campbelltown Stadium, 1.45pm

    Roosters vs Dragons, SCG, 4.05pm

    Storm vs Warriors, AAMI Park, 6.15pm

  13. THE RULES OF TOTAL RL NRL SURVIVOR COMP 2021

    1: You must pick one winning team a week till you are eliminated
     2: If your team you picked wins, or ties, you survive. If your team yo picked looses you're eliminated.

    3: You may only pick any team once - As an example if you pick Melbourne Storm in any week, 
    you can't pick them again in any other Week during the current heat of Survivor.

    4: You can edit your picks as long as it is before kick off of the first game of that round.

    5: All picks must be in before kick off of the first game of the round.

    6: The comp continues until there is a winner.

    7: Don't miss a week or you will be eliminated.

    8: When the competition gets Down to 5 players surviving in a heat. 
    You must pick a points total of the team you have picked and who that team is playing. 
    The survivor must not break the points total scored in the game by both teams.

     This feature will be used as a tie breaker, if needed to find a winner of a Survivor heat or the final.

    GOOD LUCK EVERYONE.

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