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Gerri Monside

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#3184719 Issues to address at Wembley for the RFL ?

Posted by Gerri Monside on 31 August 2015 - 11:55 AM

To me it hasn't lost its appeal and it never will.  I was just trying to explore the reasons why, apparently, it has lost its appeal with some supporters.  The focus has been mainly on the final, because that is the area which appears to concern most people.

The BBC coverage has been excellent this year.  




#3184683 Issues to address at Wembley for the RFL ?

Posted by Gerri Monside on 31 August 2015 - 10:55 AM

I must confess I don't really understand why the cup appears to have lost its appeal to many fans.  I'll admit I'm a romantic about it, but it's the highlight of the year for me and always will be. From the first time I went on a school trip in 78 to this year, it is never short of excitement, enjoyment and drama. Obviously, being a Hull supporter its also come with more than its fir share of heartache, tears and crushing disappointment.And, in recent years its been great meeting up with some of the same people at our usual muster point of the Allsop Arms.  It's also good to meet up with new friends.  Had a great chat with a young ref just starting out & passed on the "benefit" of some of my experience.

I also think the cup still has plenty of magic for the players.  Playing at Wembley seems to be one of the main ambitions for most of the overseas signings. So why is it not so for a lot of other supporters?  I don't really buy the bank holiday effect. There were plenty of finals in the 90s that fell on bank holiday weekends. For our happy band, it was always good when it fell on bank holiday as it gave us all an extra day to recover!

Is it the bitterness since the SuperLeague split? Possibly.  Particularly in the last few years, there's fewer and fewer lower league shirts in evidence.  Which is a shame.  It really is.  So we need to find a way to re-engage these supporters.  But I would recommend that we go any further with discount deals.  Most of the tickets represent excellent value. My non-RL mates marvel at the price of tickets to our major events & I'm steadily getting more of them into it.

Is it that the chance of an upset is now extremely rare? Again possibly, but I think we may be in danger of being too rose-tinted about upsets in the past.  There were a few, but perhaps not as many as people like to think there were. The move to Super League and full time professionalism has made the chance of a minnow beating one of the big fish much, much rarer but that's problem for the game in general.  We need much more competitiveness across the board, coupled with a raising in standards in the lower leagues. This will take time to redress & it will be interesting to see whether the so-called "new era" will help.  Only time will tell in that regard.  Hopefully it will.

Is it the venue? Not for me. Wembley (old or new) is still the place with the magic and (importantly) the transport network. Cardiff is great, with so much around the stadium and it will always be special for me after Hull's win in 2005.  I also had the joy of being able to share in saint's win in 2004. Which again is what the cup final is all about: winning with your own team and sharing in the success of your fellow supporters teams. However, Cardiff is bad enough to get to from my side of the country and an absolute nightmare for anyone in Yorkshire. Edinburgh is completely soul-less, with nothing around the stadium & a pain to get to.

Is it too expensive inside Wembley.  Well yes. It is. £5 for a pint of yellow fizzy water masquerading as lager is a bit steep. But my lot charge £4.20 for it. £11 for a meal deal (I'm guessing here, but that's what I paid in 2013). Again it's steep, but in line with major events. And lets face it, you don't actually have to eat & drink in there.  An 80 minute alcohol-free break might actually be beneficial for some of us. I  certainly could have done with one, thats for sure!

So for me, there isn't a great deal wrong with the cup or Wembley. We need to re-engage the "lost" supporters and sell it as a festival. We certainly shouldn't move it or discount it any more. I'll be back again next year, for what I believe is final number 31 for me.  Who's going to join me?




#3183583 29/8/2015 RL Challenge Cup Final Hull Kingston Rovers v Leeds Rhinos, Wembley...

Posted by Gerri Monside on 28 August 2015 - 12:23 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk...rammes/p030wl46

 

So brave.  I already got a lump in my throat & tear in my eye listening to the interview.  I don't stand a chance of getting through abide with me on Saturday.




#3182341 29/8/2015 RL Challenge Cup Final Hull Kingston Rovers v Leeds Rhinos, Wembley...

Posted by Gerri Monside on 25 August 2015 - 12:14 PM

I can't get the memories of the 83 & 98 finals out of my head, which makes me feel an upset is on the cards. Rervers can certainly score points when they want to and I have a gut feeling that Leeds might just underestimate them...rather like they did us in 2005 with the infamous "here come the losers" jibe in the tunnel. 

Just hoping for an enjoyable day in a (reasonably) full stadium with a good atmosphere.  Can't really bring myself to back either of the finalists so I'm tempted to pull my old NWC ref shirt on & shout for the officials!




#3177148 First Professional RL Player Comes Out

Posted by Gerri Monside on 16 August 2015 - 12:22 PM

Why would he need help?

Not meant to be taken literally.  Just meant support if he happens to come a cross any bigoted, small minded idiots out there. Sadly, there are still a few around.




#3176082 Abide with me

Posted by Gerri Monside on 14 August 2015 - 11:36 AM

https://www.youtube....h?v=Ie-wHTr1cug

 

Approximately 30s in.  This is why we have "Abide with Me." Because it allows us all to remember those we've been to games with or those we've lost who are no longer with us. 

 

It has to stay on that basis alone.

 

As I said earlier, its going to be incredibly emotional this year.   Lizzie is very, very brave to be doing this so I hope that everyone in the stadium sings their heart out and supports her. And I'm pretty sure we will.  The rugby league family knows how to look after its own,




#3175788 Abide with me

Posted by Gerri Monside on 13 August 2015 - 09:13 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk...league/33911089

 

A very brave thing to do.  I always find "Abide with me" difficult to get through,having had so many friends & family use it as their "exit music". This year will be more difficult than ever given the tragic loss of Danny & the fact that Lizzie is going to sing it. Wembley is going to be a very emotional place to be on cup final day this year.




#3130701 Update on Magic?

Posted by Gerri Monside on 28 May 2015 - 11:57 AM

Finally got round to booking my ticket yesterday via the RFL hotline & was told that the only tickets now available are in the Milburn stand Level 7.  Which is handy as that's where I wanted to be.  It does point to it being a very good attendance though.  And once again, Hull FC will have the greatest number of supporters there.  All jolly good really!




#3127932 23 May: iPro Sport Cup Final - North Wales Crusaders v Swinton Lions KO 12 noon

Posted by Gerri Monside on 23 May 2015 - 06:19 PM

Very pleased for the Cru.  They've got a great bunch of supporters & deserve a bit of success. Well done! And thanks to AMH for the commentary!!




#3082049 That clip of Rangi Chase...

Posted by Gerri Monside on 03 March 2015 - 12:20 PM

Had a look last night and it was close to 1 million "re-loops" on Vine.  As I'm not down with the kids I'm assuming that means close to 1 million views.  That's nothing short of fantastic.  When I saw it live at full speed, I thought "poor defending".  Having seen it again & in slow-mo, I'm really not sure how you can defend against a play like that.  Credit where it's due, it's a piece of magic.




#3058448 worst import ever ?

Posted by Gerri Monside on 21 January 2015 - 12:05 PM

Who was the Aussie, signed by Millward for St Helens?  Clearly obese and only tackled pies.

Barry Ward?




#3056496 The Allams flexing their muscles?

Posted by Gerri Monside on 16 January 2015 - 10:17 PM

Indeed.

 

I can't believe what I'm about to type but.....

 

To be fair to the Allams  :ohmy:  :rolleyes: , they arrived when the Football club, and thus the SMC, already ruled the roost and had an amount of scorn for their co tenants. History tells you it's the fault of the previous people who ran Hull FC as, when the Stadium was built, they were offered a 50% running of the SMC for a fee but seeing as they were effectively fly by nights they declined allowing the soccer team full control.

 

(By the way, you forgot to mention putting "Tigers" and "Tigress" signs over all the toilets at the stadium.)

 

 

 

Indeed the set up of the SMC was a farce of epic proportions and our board at the time showed a catastrophic lack of vision / ambition / strategic planning. However the "benevolent philanthropist of this parish" (for it is he), could have put things right when he took over. Instead, he went off on a mission to make the stadium his own & god forbid anyone that had the temerity to get in the way.

 

On your last point - I now use those "special pants"..... so it's not an issue!  ;)




#3056440 The Allams flexing their muscles?

Posted by Gerri Monside on 16 January 2015 - 06:49 PM

Yet another little step on the road for the Allams in their attempts to push us out or make the situation so untenable that we walk of our own volition. First we had the "rebranding" of the stadium - which seemed to involve removing all references to RL. Then the charging for permission to display anything in the corporate suites. And now this. Oh and I hear on the grapevine that they're putting up the price of the flat, tasteless, yellow liquid that they have the audacity to call beer to £4.20. 

It may well work for football, where I assume there are far fewer "walk-ups" - but it will do nothing but antagonise the RL supporters. Personally, it'll make it very hard for me to get to a game. I've got the M62 Friday Funhouse to contend with, which usually results in getting to the ground just before kick-off. I don't have a pass (as I can't guarantee getting to every game) - so how exactly am I supposed to get into the ground? Get the ticket posted to me? With our parlously inefficient postal service? 

I would remind Mr Allam, that this was supposed to be a community stadium. Built for the people and the city of Hull. To benefit all of the sports teams that chose to use it. To bring a focal point to the community. To put Hull on the map by holding concerts, international sporting events. It was never, ever intended to be the plaything of the chairman of the football club. To do with as he wishes. It was never meant to be used in favour of the football team and to the detriment of the RL team.  

What is happening there now is tantamount to discrimination in its basest form




#3002028 RIP Greg Mackey

Posted by Gerri Monside on 24 September 2014 - 09:42 PM

Desperately sad news. In the space of a few weeks, I've lost two of my heroes. First Tony Dean, a minstrel of a player - the original cheeky halfback, always with a smile on his face & a always took a quick tap - even if it was given to the opposition. A gent & character off the field too. Had the pleasure of meeting him a few times in Hull hostelries after  games & he always had everyone in hysterics.

Then Today's news about Bluey. I guess we knew it was coming, but it doesn't soften the blow. He was a real hero to me in a pretty magical few years in the black & white. Hard as nails, with a great pair of hands, good kicking game & fantastic rugby brain. I'll never, ever forget his performance in the 91 premiership final, which brought me  to my knees in joy. Incidentally, I'm ever thankful for the Widnes fans I was stood with, for picking me back up again that day. I'm genuinely sad that he's gone. A great player,  held in very high regard by all who came across him. R.I.P.




#2982227 Empty Seats On The Telly.....

Posted by Gerri Monside on 24 August 2014 - 03:53 PM

This year was the first time, as a neutral, I've left the ground with a very melancholy feeling about the final. I think melancholy  is the right word, not disappointment because the game itself wasn't bad & the spectacle is always great. Maybe worried might be a more fair reflection. The feeling actually started in our usual pre-match watering hole of the Allsop Arms which, though busy, was nowhere near as "rammed" as it has been in previous years. The same was true of the tube ride & to a certain extent the walk up Wembley way. There seemed far fewer food outlets etc. Then inside the stadium, there was the mass of empty seats and a more subdued atmosphere than usual. For me, despite the best efforts of Hull FC, the challenge cup final is THE event of the rugby league calendar and its such a shame to see it in the state it is now. Yesterday was perhaps the most dramatic illustration as many have stated on here: fewer neutrals, fewer "lower league" shirts, fewer amateur shirts & even fewer fancy dress.

 

I don't know what the answer is, but rescheduling would definitely help. A more practical gap between semis & final (4-5 weeks), more intensive promotion & less "bargain basement discounting" should also be considered.

 

Despite my melancholy/worries, I'll still be going again next year as it is, and always will be, the best date in the rugby league calendar.