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Trojan

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  1. 8 hours ago, StandOffHalf said:

    Fair play, Loiner.

    I suppose one has to say well done to green-booted Makinson for getting the ball down and making the VR err towards giving it. It is easy to analyse and pick it apart in the cold light of day (and I do think the evidence is pretty clear) but the VR is in the heat of the moment.

    Fortunately it didn't affect the outcome of what was an absorbing game.

    I thought he was in touch.  But if the VR can't see it then the try remains.  Great game. Very exciting.  Shame it had to end with the anti climax of the golden point.  But them's the rules.

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  2. Oh dear.  This shows my age.  Boxing Day 1960  Leeds v Wakey.  I think Wakey won 14-7.  We sat on the wall beside the slope where the players used to come out at Headingley.  The next game was Wakey v Wigan at Belle Vue, 2nd round of cup, Wigan won 2-0 Fred Griffiths goal.   I won half a dollar on the Leeds v Wakey game, and risked it again with the same lad against Leeds winning the Championship - I lost.

  3. I've been looking at a topic on Facebook about Neil Fox and why he's not on the Wembley plinth.  Can anyone enlighten me as to how the selection of those that are on there was arrived at?  What is most surprising thinking about it, is that while the game's heartlands are in Lancashire, Yorkshire, and Cumbria, there's no representation from the latter two counties. 

  4. The point is that the various clubs and pubs in the "heartlands" started saving and booking for the following year's CC final almost as soon as the previous one was over.  It was an annual jolly.  Load crates of ale into the coach and off we go.  Moving  the date about sort of screwed that.  And the end of winter rugby didn't do the event any favours either.  Look at the Twickenham crowd.  I went to Wembley in 2021 when Saints played Cas.  (I went for Fev v York)  it was hot for the Fev game.  By the time Saints and Cas took the field it was blazing hot and players were dropping like flies due to the heat.

    Kick the comp off before the regular season (like the old county cups) don't seed it.  And play a condensed comp aimed at a final in May.  

    Whether it should stay at Wembley I couldn't say but I've been twice to the new stadium and haven't been impressed.

    I thought the game was ok.  Wigan certainly are a competent effective side.  TBH I don't think Wire were that far behind.  A little more luck and they'd have been breathing down Wigan's necks.  

    The Rob Burrow stuff showed our game at its absolute best.

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  5. 18 hours ago, Futtocks said:

    John Wayne fans wanted to see John Wayne. Even when he was playing Ghengis Khan. Not to my taste, but then neither is the glaringly obvious "give me awards!" type of Method Acting* at the other end of the spectrum.

    *I think it was Humphdrey Bogart who referred to it as "scratch your ass and belch" acting.

    But surely "The Longest Day" is an historical document, of what actually happened on both sides.  The producers go to the trouble of getting actors who look and sound like Eisenhower and Montgomery, with German actors speaking actual German and then stick John Wayne in a key role. Presumably it had something to do with financing the film.

  6.   With the D Day anniversary upcoming, I watched "The Longest Day" yesterday.  Has there ever been a worse actor than John Wayne?  He speaks every word as though he were reading entries in a phone book.  He plays the same part no matter who he is playing.  Ok he was big and good looking and could ride a horse, but please actor????

    Same goes to a lesser extent to another star of this movie.  Richard Burton, he speaks every line as though he were on stage at Stratford, for me he totally lacked the talent to act on screen.  

    I doubt if this movie could ever be remade, even with CGI. Shame really.  It could do with some better acting performances from the English speaking cast.

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  7. 4 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said:

    2023 Challenge Cup Final for obvious reasons

    Fev 40-60 Sheffield for sheer ridiculousness

    Joey Johns’ debut for Warrington was a tremendous occasion to attend as a neutral

    The 2019 playoff game between Leigh and Fev.  Probably the best game I've ever seen, a credit to both sides and the Championship

  8. 19 hours ago, Blind side johnny said:

    I thought it was a brilliant piece.   Rugby has been played at the Mount for nearly 150 years, but for how much longer under IMG?  I was there the week before to watch Fev. Great atmosphere, very competitive game could have gone either way.

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  9. On 20/03/2024 at 10:56, marklaspalmas said:

    It hurt me grievously.

    But if there are still people who haven't moved on from 1995, that's problematic for them.

    Long term grievances if not put right, can fester and turn to hate over the years.  Again IMG had better watch out.  |It won't just be Fev

  10. 47 minutes ago, The Phantom Horseman said:

    This is 100% accurate, same comments apply to me about going to school in Ponte, in my year there were reams of Fev fans and only one Cas fan and he was regarded as being a bit of an oddball. As you suggest, long-term SL occupancy for Cas will have had an impact on that as it would for any sport.

    Fev's totally artificial exclusion from the original SL is the cause of all the problems IMO.  There was absolutely no reason from a football point of view why they should not have been in the original SL, but manipulation from Lindsay etc meant they were excluded.  A team that that very year were CC semi finalists, plus former champions, and CC winners.  Had they  been included and failed IMO there wouldn't have been a problem.  Same goes for 1998.  They lost the final somewhat controversially and Wakey were promoted.  On false promises of a new ground and very dodgy financial data. And they somehow survived and have benefitted from that survival.  That's it in a nutshell for me.  Being the best team in the Championship in the 2010's but excluded hasn't helped matters.  It all goes to prove that when you try to manipulate sports comps.  there's usually trouble ahead.  Watch out IMG.

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  11. Just now, JohnM said:

    Ah! Dreams!  Turn one way and they become reality. Turn the other way, they become nightmares.  Applies to any club: injecting millions year after year after is not enough. There have to be realistic,  achievable. deliverables. No use putting in millions a year for player wages etc just for the love of a club. There has to be such momentum that when one funding injection stops, there's enough momentum for the club to continue and there has to be enough success for the next "investor" to be attracted. Are there any such people in the Featherstone catchment ?

    I wonder   Wakey dominated the RL in the 60's  big crowds, championships and Wembley wins.  But when the goose that had been laying the golden eggs died suddenly it was "save Trinity"  they've never really been a force in the game since.  Same applies to Bradford although their goose was more of the Ponzi variety

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  12. 42 minutes ago, Agbrigg said:

    Pontefract, Knottingley and Ackworth, come on ! Ponte and Knottingley have far more Cas fans. Why not really scrape the barrel and add Purston and Wraggby. Fev never has and never will have a bigger fan base than those four clubs you mentioned. But like you say, no harm in dreaming

    When I was a kid in the 50's my relatives in S Kirkby, S.Elmsall and Hemsworth were all Fev fans,  That's how I (from Morley) come to be a Fev fan

  13. 30 minutes ago, gazza77 said:

    I was brought up and schooled in Ponte, before moving away to uni in 95 and never met a Cas fan whilst there until 6th form, when Cas and Ponte schools merged at NEW college. Maybe times have changed, it's 30 years since I left, and tbh what you say wouldn't suprise me given the time Fev have been out of the top flight and that Cas and Pontefract have become far closer in terms of residential development over that time. 

    As we both say, no harm in dreaming. 

    That's the point.  SL has decimated Fev's support.  Pre SL there were supporters buses from as far away as Pollington bringing Fev fans.

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