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Trojan

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  1. 21 hours ago, Jill Halfpenny fan said:

    Enjoyed that, thought we gave it a good go. Thought it could get ugly in the first half when Croft was darting about but we managed to hang in. The clinching try was gutting though, good defensive set by Widnes,  Leeds going nowhere and then Lumb does that.  Anyway on to Workington next week.

    I think if Widnes can reproduce that form in the Championship they give a lot of teams trouble. Watch out London!

  2. 55 minutes ago, Agbrigg said:

    The trouble with Fev is that they are a victim of Geography a little village in the wrong place , their growth potential is limited and any benefactor would see that ,unless he is a diehard Fev fan who is prepared to pump millions in without return. Lets be realistic, if Fev did not exist and some one with billions looked at the UK, or even West Yorks to start up a club. Featherstone would be the last location to pick.

    This is true as far as it goes.  But way back when SL was formed and Fev and Wakey were excluded, Fev were the better supported team.  In 1998 when Wakey got into SL (controversially in many ways) Wakey began to pick up support and Fev lose support, basically it's been downhill ever since.  Personally (and i've supported them for 45 years) i see no future for Fev.   The fates seem to have conspired against them and even when promotion looked on the cards they fell at the last hurdle.  I find attendance at games difficult now (i live 75 miles away and i'm 78) but i'll always give them my verbal support.  For me Feathestone Rovers epitomise the spirit of RL.  The establishment said you can't do that but they kept right on doing it and upset more than a few ..   Featherstone Rovers 3 times RLCC winners, twice runners up, and 1978 RL Champions.  Not bad for a little village.

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  3. 19 hours ago, sheddingswasus said:

    Oldham would have done much better without the mid season injuries. For about a 5 match spell they only had 3 fit backs. They had forwards covering and it showed. Sadly it was still like that as we got to the 1895 semi. It was only after that that players started to return. 
    Overall the club have done well and the progress is pleasing. 

    i'd nominate Sean Long as coach of the season.  Wish he was still at Fev

  4. 22 hours ago, Father Gascoigne said:

    I used to as well as I grew up as a 90s kid and didn't even know the English invented rugby league/union, but through Tony Collins I've learned that rugby was not only more established at one point, but that it was football's attitude towards professionalism--and having the good fortune not to tear itself in two--that gave it a leg up at the onset of the 20th century. 

    Knowing how the colonisation of sports works around the world--and how it really is an early bird gets the worm scenario--it's a fascinating thought experiment wondering how the landscape would look today if rugby went professional and stayed together. 

    We got rugby league out of it so no complaints, but you could argue a unified game would've looked more like rugby league in time anyway. 

     

    In the early days of soccer, teams like Royal Engineers and Corinthian Casuals won the FA Cup, with the advent of the Football League and professionalism their days were gone I'm afraid and it was northern sides like Blackburn Rovers and Preston North End that dominated the game.  IMO the RFU saw this and were determined not to lose control of the game like the FA had.  Hence the split. It wasn't just about money though, it was about the power of the ruling class.

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  5. On 21/05/2025 at 19:49, Mr Plow said:

    Football wise Leeds is a juggernaut in West Yorkshire. I think you’ll find folk across the region who follow Leeds United where as rugby wise if your from Cas, you’ll follow Cas, if your from Bradford you’ll follow the Bulls ect.

    I live in Lincolnshire now, but I've been amazed at how many Leeds Utd fans there are around here

  6. Compared to rugby, pro soccer was late into West Yorks. The NU was well established when most of the West Yorkshire sides were formed.   Soccer proved a more open and attractive game and that's why many of the original NU rules were changed to open up the game and stop the drain of not only supporters but clubs to soccer. Up to the 60's  Leeds was (according to John Giles) a rugby city.  The rise of Leeds Utd almost parallels the decline of Hunslet -  a major club up to that time.  In 1965 both Hunslet and Leeds U went to Wembley.  But was Hunslet's last hurrah.   They've  never recovered.

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  7. 11 hours ago, JohnM said:

    Wembley of the North? Won't that be Odsal, given the recent coup?

    In the days before Wembley was rebuilt it was described by some wag as the  Odsal of the South.  In my experience it's not much better now.  I hope they can improve Elland Road because on the occasions I've been there for RL I've been less than impressed.  I suppose OT is getting a bit tired.  But the atmosphere there on GF nights takes some beating, and access is brill.  I speak as someone who hates Man U and was born less than 3 miles from Elland Road.

  8. 8 hours ago, StandOffHalf said:

    Fair play, Loiner.

    I suppose one has to say well done to green-booted Makinson for getting the ball down and making the VR err towards giving it. It is easy to analyse and pick it apart in the cold light of day (and I do think the evidence is pretty clear) but the VR is in the heat of the moment.

    Fortunately it didn't affect the outcome of what was an absorbing game.

    I thought he was in touch.  But if the VR can't see it then the try remains.  Great game. Very exciting.  Shame it had to end with the anti climax of the golden point.  But them's the rules.

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  9. 18 hours ago, Futtocks said:

    John Wayne fans wanted to see John Wayne. Even when he was playing Ghengis Khan. Not to my taste, but then neither is the glaringly obvious "give me awards!" type of Method Acting* at the other end of the spectrum.

    *I think it was Humphdrey Bogart who referred to it as "scratch your ass and belch" acting.

    But surely "The Longest Day" is an historical document, of what actually happened on both sides.  The producers go to the trouble of getting actors who look and sound like Eisenhower and Montgomery, with German actors speaking actual German and then stick John Wayne in a key role. Presumably it had something to do with financing the film.

  10.   With the D Day anniversary upcoming, I watched "The Longest Day" yesterday.  Has there ever been a worse actor than John Wayne?  He speaks every word as though he were reading entries in a phone book.  He plays the same part no matter who he is playing.  Ok he was big and good looking and could ride a horse, but please actor????

    Same goes to a lesser extent to another star of this movie.  Richard Burton, he speaks every line as though he were on stage at Stratford, for me he totally lacked the talent to act on screen.  

    I doubt if this movie could ever be remade, even with CGI. Shame really.  It could do with some better acting performances from the English speaking cast.

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  11. 6 hours ago, The Future is League said:

    He would have been an outstanding Rugby League player, and surely your not suggesting that union clubs were paying their players before their game went honest in 1995? 🤣

    As Tony Collins says in "The Codebreakers,"   the WRFU pretended they weren't paying the players and the RFU pretended to believe them, otherwise the whole home nations thing would have fallen apart.

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  12. On 08/01/2024 at 20:47, Futtocks said:

    Welsh Rugby Union player John (J.P.R.) Williams aged 74.

    One that got away, from a RL perspective. He'd have done alright.

    I recall reading somewhere that he was all set to sign for Hull FC in the early 80's, they'd even line a job up at a local hospital,  but it fell through for some reason.  Who knows? Union players presumably would spread rumours about signing RL to get a better deal from their clubs, and RL teams spread them to sell season tickets.  In those days when if was all cloak and dagger, there's no way of telling.

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  13. 2 hours ago, gingerjon said:

    I did know that. I've said it for a long time.

    I've also said the game needs to wake up and address that or it will contract further and further.

    If you didn't already know that, you've not been paying attention.

    It's been contracting really since the introduction of SL and summer rugby.  From what I've been reading the supply of amateurs coming through is also drying up.  The cause of this IMO is the egregious licencing.  We are now feeling the effects of the loss of interest in the game this caused.  God knows what can be done to rectify the problem.  But the IMG proposals aint it.

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