Trojan
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I have a feeling that the only significant changes to the rules since the formation of the football league in 1888 are the creation of the penalty area, where the goalkeeper can handle the ball and the backpass. All the major changes took place between 1863 and 1888. Not sure when offside became settled though and any changes to that have been 'interpretation' rather a change to the law.
You mean the 18 yard (or 16.452 m) line
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Leeds meanwhile were trying to off-load John Galllagher to anyone that would take him, . Doug Laughton Leeds coach was in bother for comments to referee Ian Ollerton
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The fallacy of metrication being a more accurate system is just that.
Not more accurate - just easier to measure in mm. than in fractions of an inch.
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This was in the years between the abolition of the ruck and maul and the introduction of the play-the-ball. Every tackle resulted in a scrum. Watch how fast they form the scrums though.
The Mitchell and Kenyon stuff is brilliant, they made a point of doing crowd shots so that they could get people to come and pay to watch themselves later. The behaviour of people when they see some form of film/tv camera hasn't changed in over 100 years.
I went to the screening of the Mitchell and Kenyon NU stuff at the National Media Museum about four years ago - it was great.
It must be unique to be able to see how a game was actually played over 100 years ago. There's plenty of soccer stuff on Mitchell and Kenyon but I don't think the basic game of soccer has changed as much as RL has from those days.
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Fev were relegated in 1992, which was sad, especially as their fate was in their own hands, they only needed a draw at Wakey and either Hull, Bradford or Salford would have accompanied Swinton through the trap-door - oh well.
But it was doubly sad for the game - it was the last season of Station Road. I went to Station Road to watch Fev not long before the end of the season. It was run-down and dilapidated, and there was a very small crowd, most of whom were from Fev.
I've just been reading a book about Grand/Championship Finals, many of which along with Test matches, cup semis, and County Cup ties were held there in front of large crowds. Sad year for RL 1992. Did Fartown close the same season?
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Having being a ball boy in the CC final in 1983 I love it, to me it's the pinnacle of achievment in RL having more history than the GF which is a super league invention anyway, long may the CC continue.
Greatest CC final ever
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They won the Challenge Cup 2002.
That's a Mickey Mouse trophy - NE said so years ago.
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Various militaries seem to use it as well.
I think Caterpillar (the American company I referred to) are finally coming to terms with the metric system. But there are thousands (maybe millions) of their machines where everything is an imperial size. Except of course for capacities - the American gallon and quart are different to ours.
There was a joke on Frasier, where in order to celebrate independence day, Daphne (who's English) and a few of her English mates were getting together for an American style evening including "not using the metric system"
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Go to some research Troje.
Since 2008 FIFA has stipulated football pitch measurements in metres as the primary measurement.
Commentators may talk in yards, but most of them are olf farts like yourself who can't cope with the modern world.
I've been using the metric system at work since the late seventies - it's much easier to take accurate measurements in mm than fractions of an inch. However, I've not yet discovered a metric way to measure the age of my farts. Yesterday's after saurkraut with my meal were fairly spectacular though but I'm not sure how old they were
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I would have thought the French influence was more important.
I would imagine that both rugby codes went metric in a bid to become "international" whilst soccer didn't need to do so since it was already global; cricket had no desire to be more than a commonwealth club.
mmm probably so. ta.
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The benefit i would say is that it gives you a base which seem pretty loyal to the choices they make. Think back to soccer pre-1990 - caged in sections, serious chance of injury and even death just from attending a game, despised by the mainstream in the main, terrible grounds, banned from europe. But the working class base never abandoned the game, which meant when the opportunity came to expand its popularity it was still in relative rude health. Without that loyalty i would argue even soccer would have been in danger of collapse in the 80s.
But i agree that diversifying that base is essential for long term prosperity. Im personally looking forward to the prawn sandwiches cuz i have to tell you all - the food at rugby league games is uniformly terrible. And i'm a council estate boy.
Well I hate prawns, in fact I hate all crustaceans (nothing personal just as food) and the pies at Fev are ace.
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The imperial system isn't even taught in schools anymore, its just football being stuck behind the times once again. on a side note the situation in Britain where both metric and imperial are used is pathetic.
I'm afraid the business I've been in are guilty of mixing systems e.g. 5/8" x 54m bolts. The reason is that the bolts are manufactured in either Italy or the Far East, but the bolt diameter is largely defined by American manufacturers who tend to dominate in this particular sphere.
But my question hasn't been answered.
The rules and pitch markings for all three major UK football games were formulated in this country and yet only soccer still use imperial. I would guess that in the case of Union it was the NZ influence and in the case of League the Oz influence -but if this is so, why is cricket still using 22 yard pitches instead of 20.12 metres?
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No need to worry.
Their crowds have increased to such a level they are completely self sufficient.
At least thats what Mick tells us regularly.
They'd quite a good following at Batley today - I'd say the crowd was 50/50 Batley and Barrow. Which isn't bad considering the distances involved.
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I know Union went metric in the eighties - the 25 yard line became the 22 metre line. We went metric in the nineties - the 25 yard line became the 20 metre line - we also have the 40 and 10 metre line.
But I was watching the Soccer world cup tonight, and the commentators were talking about the 18 yard line and the 12 yards from the penalty spot to the goal.
I presume from this that soccer - the really global game is still using imperial measurements. Why aren't we? (not that I've anything against the metric system - I'm just curious)
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Where was Jamie Rooney? According to some Barrow fans I spoke to he should have played.
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Barrows discipline was poor!
I had 2 old fellas behind me whining on and on about Ronnie! Thing is, and this is where being a neutral makes these specs much clearer to see through, he got almost all his calls correct!!
I didn't think he did. First half he seemed to favour Batley, and didn't punish a blatant knock on or a high tackle. Second half he seemed to favour Barrow and allowed a score off a knock on and once again ignored a blatant high tackle. Plus of course the penalty count second half was 7-1 to Barrow - don't know what it was first half. I went specifically to watch Barrow. Either Batley are a lot better than I thought they were or Barrow are a lot worse. Certainly second half, up the slope Batley's defence was awesome.
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I've looked the word "derby" up in the Concise Oxford Dictionary. A "derby" match is any important match. A local derby is a match between two local rivals. So I guess you have to define local. How far from New Craven Park to the KC? How far from DW to KR? How far from Odsal to Headingley? If it wasn't for Hanging Heaton Church you could see New Crown Flat from Mount Pleasant. And as I said earlier it's about three miles from Wheldon Road to P O Road.
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Batley comprehensively outplayed Barrow today in every department. Forced to defend for almost the entire second half up the slope, on the back of a 7-1 penalty count in Barrow's favour, the did it manfully, and also scored two breakaway tries. Perhaps Barrow aren't all they're cracked up to be. But Batley can only beat what's put in front of them. If they play against Widnes like they did today, I wouldn't like to forecast the outcome.
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Wrong again, its not "what I say it is", and I haven't said what I think it is, I have quoted both Collins and The Oxford English dictionaries which give you definitions.
You are the one being stubborn and wanting to re-write the OED.
No just winding you up Dave
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For sheer venom between the two sets of players and supporters, both inside the ground and out, I dont reckon any Saints/Wigan or FC/Rovers comes even close to a Widnes/Dire, having attended all of the above.
You've obviously never been to a Fev/Cas game
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I went to a sportsman's evening with Shaun Wayne a couple of years ago. Shaun said that when the Wigan directors came down his street to sign him the kids flocked around their BMW. They'd never seen a tax disc before.
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Why should I care, I couldn't give a toss.
For some bizarre reason people won't believe what the dictionary tells them, a derby game is not defined as a game between two teams from the same city.
The OED says d. Applied to any kind of important sporting contest
You should give a toss because according to your posts on this thread a "derby" is what you say it is. (no change there then)
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It's not compulsary to have a derby game.
OK who will be described as Leeds U's derby game
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no John Newlove, Don Fox, Steve Nash so many great players to pick from
All great players indeed but who played before the time that I supported Fev.
Gerry Round
Ken Hirst
Neil Fox
Alan Skene
Jan Prinsloo
Harold Poynton
Keith Holiday
Jack Wilkinson
Milan Kosanovic
Mal Sampson
Don Vines
Brian Briggs
Derek Turner
I used to support Trinity before I learned better
how good is this
in The General Rugby League Forum
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I know that at one time in soccer an out field player was allowed to make "a fair catch" catch of the ball and call for a mark. And a free kick.