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52 minutes ago, Bull Mania said:
Good win for Sheffield.
Wakey comfortable against Bradford.
Halifax battle past Dewsbury.
Fev pinch it against Batley(taking nothing away from Fev, but sounded like batley imploded. Had a set of 6 on Fevs line with 3 mins remaining. Threw a forward pass on first tackle. Dropped the kick on Fevs last tackle. Fev score and Hooter goes)
Whitehaven fight back against Swinton.
Doncaster with a shock result against York. Doncaster have recruited some big names but expected York to lay down a marker after their recruitment.
Widnes hammer Barrow with cards galore.
Both sides were out on their feet at the end. Batley were 18-0 up after twenty minutes, but they had the advantage of the slope. Fev scored one up the slope at the close of the first half. By the end there was only a penalty separating them. Could have gone either way.
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My information is that this sort of thing is endemic in Rugby League. Personally I think it's appalling. I went to Batley yesterday and watched two teams who at the end were out on their feet put up a tremendous advert for the game. They deserve every penny and should be first in line for payment.
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On 11/03/2024 at 15:25, gingerjon said:
No. But we're in a lot better shape than if we hadn't shifted.
who knows?
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17 minutes ago, JonM said:
Average crowd in the top flight pretty much doubled since the last winter season.
Amount of money in the game enough to support at least a dozen full-time clubs vs just 1 back then.
Fair to say that football has got a lot, lot bigger since then too, and rugby union has gone professional.
Rugby Union at the top level, from playing in front of two men and a dog (not Leicester or Northampton) but that was the sort of crowd some of the top London clubs could expect have gone to multi thousand crowds. In you post the key phrase is "in the top flight" the rest are struggling. To have a worthwhile game we need more than just the "top flight"
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2 hours ago, dkw said:
It was a nice throwback game as a novelty, but I done know how anyone would be happy seeing that kind of slog in a bog week in week out.
And of course the switch to summer has been a wonderful success hasn't it?
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A real, old fashioned, dog eat dog cup tie. Shame there had to be a loser. Bring back winter RL.
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12 hours ago, Padge said:
It is a real law of the game.
SECTION 10 - KNOCK-ON AND FORWARD PASS
NOTES Direction of pass
1. The direction of a pass is relative to the player making it and not to the actual path relative to the ground. A player running towards his opponents’ goal line may throw the ball towards a colleague who is behind them but because of the thrower’s own momentum the ball travels forward relative to the ground. This is not a forward pass as the thrower has not passed the ball forward in relation to themself. This is particularly noticeable when a running player makes a high, lobbed pass.
I thought it was a forward pass at the time, but if the ref didn't see it there's nothing to be done, them's the rules. As for the "double movement" I thought the Wigan player was pushed over the line by the Aussie wrestle.
The ball steal? Hard to say, stupid rule anyway. The Aussie "try" at the end? I couldn't see the ball grounded, and neither could the video ref. The on field ref was in a better position than anyone and he said no try. End of.
I thought it was a tight exciting game and any side that lost could consider themselves unlucky. Conversely any side that won could consider themselves lucky. Whether we are catching the Aussies as everyone says it s moot point. Well done Wigan. Anyone who's read my posts on here over the years knows I'm no Wigan fan.
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When I was at school Normanton Grammar were feared by all the Yorkshire Union schools teams. RIP
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5 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said:
thats like saying he should book 2 weeks in ibiza and stay in his room for a fortnite
All I can say is that when he was at Fev there were none of these perpetually recurring problems
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Great player, best player i've seen in a Fev shirt since Paul Newlove. He should come back to fev and settle down
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On 01/02/2024 at 13:29, gingerjon said:
We didn't have it in most of the years before, either.
The period running from, roughly, 1980-1994 is the outlier not the norm.
We beat them in 1970, and fairly regularly up until then. We ran them close in 1978. It was '82 and '86 where we began to struggle. in '88, 90, & '92 we gave them a game. Since then it's been no contest. Circumstantial evidence points to the problem being SL.
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21 hours ago, On the buses said:
The city of Carlisle region has a population of just over 110k with Carlisle proper having a population of 75k which is a perfect catchment area the game should be targeting especially when like you say it bridges the west Cumbrian and north east community game.
I would have thought that a properly set up Carlisle club could have benefitted from the Union players in the Scottish border area. As it was, when first formed, it seemed to consist of ex Fev players, who trained in Fev and only commuted to Carlisle for home games.
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6 hours ago, The Future is League said:
He would have been an outstanding Rugby League player, and surely your not suggesting that union clubs were paying their players before their game went honest in 1995?
As Tony Collins says in "The Codebreakers," the WRFU pretended they weren't paying the players and the RFU pretended to believe them, otherwise the whole home nations thing would have fallen apart.
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On 08/01/2024 at 20:47, Futtocks said:
Welsh Rugby Union player John (J.P.R.) Williams aged 74.
One that got away, from a RL perspective. He'd have done alright.
I recall reading somewhere that he was all set to sign for Hull FC in the early 80's, they'd even line a job up at a local hospital, but it fell through for some reason. Who knows? Union players presumably would spread rumours about signing RL to get a better deal from their clubs, and RL teams spread them to sell season tickets. In those days when if was all cloak and dagger, there's no way of telling.
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On 14/11/2023 at 11:19, Damien said:
I don't think this is the case at all. The Northern Union showed a great reluctance to really be anything more than just Yorkshire and Lancashire. From their point of view that's where the big clubs were and that's where the money was. In a time when travel was much more difficult Northern Union clubs just didn't want the expense or hassle of excess travel. Areas like the North East, Midlands and Wales were the London, Cornwall and France of today.
I am certain the Northern Union could have brought many more RU clubs and areas across if it so desired, it didn't, and the game has suffered the consequences ever since.
I always thought that having broke the "amateur" dam that many clubs would want to join the NU as professional clubs. After all that's what happened with the Football League.
With regard to amateurism I was amused by an incident recounted by Jonathan Davies. He was invited to give a talk before the Union Varsity game, in 1988 and received an envelope with £400 in cash to cover "expenses." A year later he did the same gig and got a cheque for £250 when he asked about the discrepancy he was told that as an amateur he'd been taking a risk, as a pro he wasn't.
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Certainly when I worked in Wigan, despite there being a league soccer club there, many of my workmates were Bolton or Blackburn fans.
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The germ of the Northern Union was in the Yorkshire Senior Competition, which was a league comp. allowed by the Yorkshire RU on the condition that once it was established, there would be P&R for other Yorkshire clubs, when the time came the Senior comp renegued on the deal. Top Lancashire sides were having trouble with the Lancs RU over paying players and transfers. The two sets of clubs had been meeting for some time with a breakaway in view. When it became obvious that the two Unions would not accede to what the top clubs required, they formally broke away. The RFU put up awesome barriers to other clubs joining the NU and scared them off. There was a move in South Wales where the culture was similar to industrial Yorks and Lancs, but those in charge could see that Wales would lose its international status and become just another "county" like the other two, plus clubs like Cardiff would lose money spinning fixtures against the likes of Bristol and Gloucester so they carried on as before. As Tony Collins said, they pretended not to be paying the top players and Twickenham pretended to believe them.
I'm sure if there had been any enthusiasm in North East England that the NU would have welcomed them with open arms. Clearly there wasn't. And as has been stated above soccer was making great inroads in the North East, and West Yorkshire. Leeds City (forerunners of United) Bradford City, Bradford and Huddersfield all trace their founding to within 10 years of 1895.
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2 hours ago, gingerjon said:
I did know that. I've said it for a long time.
I've also said the game needs to wake up and address that or it will contract further and further.
If you didn't already know that, you've not been paying attention.
It's been contracting really since the introduction of SL and summer rugby. From what I've been reading the supply of amateurs coming through is also drying up. The cause of this IMO is the egregious licencing. We are now feeling the effects of the loss of interest in the game this caused. God knows what can be done to rectify the problem. But the IMG proposals aint it.
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On 21/09/2023 at 11:38, Griff said:
Including Fev then. Now you've said it.
There are bad apples in every barrel. That's life. But this doesn't mean that the Bulls fans are totally innocent. In my experience they are arrogant. Contemptible when winning are whingers when losing. IMO they need a further period of correction in the championship.
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On 07/09/2023 at 15:34, Ragingbull said:
Hahaha.
Go on then ill give you the time of day.
What other reason would have a dozen drunken scroats have for moving at half time to stand above the tunnel, in to what is widely known to be the area where the most vocal home fans situate?
Especially given Fev were attacking the Rooley Lane end of the ground where the majority of there own fans were already stood?
I never said there were some bad apples in the Fev barrel. There are in every barrel, and having seen Bulls fans' behaviour at close hand on many occasions I doubt they were all as innocent as the driven snow. When the Bulls first came to PO Road the first game of the season after they were relegated, they strutted about as if they owned the place and were extremely and vocally very rude. 6 and 2 3's
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On 05/09/2023 at 10:07, Ragingbull said:
Unreliable source?
I was stood 10m from the trouble causing scroats and saw it with my own eyes.
and you of course are totally unbiased
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15 hours ago, Ragingbull said:
Sad to say another week another game marred by Fev fans.
Half a dozen drunken chav numpties who in the second half decided to come and stand in the middle of the Bulls fans directly above the tunnel. Only one thing on their mind was to cause trouble and obviosly they did.
Spitting at families, and trying their best to start a scrap with anyone. Eventually it kicked off turning in to a nasty situatation, thankfully the stewards were on it and manged to kick 5 of them out of the ground.
We say it almost every week but Fev really have got a big problem within their fan base.
All these anti Fev reports at Bradford come from the same unreliable source every time. He's a known one eyed entitled Bulls fan intent on stopping Fev if he can
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2 hours ago, Phil said:
Hugely surprised
Except of course it was the Bulls doing the spitting. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good anti Fev story
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We've been living in Lincs for three years. An NHS dentist is not to be had, so we time some of our visits back to Leeds to coincide with dental appointments at our NHS dentist
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Fev not paying staff
in The General Rugby League Forum
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again I worked for a company that had not been paying my NI contribution, it only came to light when i changed jobs. In business I'm afraid cash is king