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He, Malcolm Reilly, Steve Norton, and Bill Ashurst were the tall long striding type of forwards the Aussies based their new style game on.
Lowe was a great player. Wish he was available for GB today. RIP
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On 20/03/2024 at 10:56, marklaspalmas said:
It hurt me grievously.
But if there are still people who haven't moved on from 1995, that's problematic for them.
Long term grievances if not put right, can fester and turn to hate over the years. Again IMG had better watch out. |It won't just be Fev
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1 minute ago, marklaspalmas said:
The launch of SL was a fiasco. But it was 29 years ago.
But the roots of today's problem lies there. The victimised feeling of Fev fans has been passed down.
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47 minutes ago, The Phantom Horseman said:
This is 100% accurate, same comments apply to me about going to school in Ponte, in my year there were reams of Fev fans and only one Cas fan and he was regarded as being a bit of an oddball. As you suggest, long-term SL occupancy for Cas will have had an impact on that as it would for any sport.
Fev's totally artificial exclusion from the original SL is the cause of all the problems IMO. There was absolutely no reason from a football point of view why they should not have been in the original SL, but manipulation from Lindsay etc meant they were excluded. A team that that very year were CC semi finalists, plus former champions, and CC winners. Had they been included and failed IMO there wouldn't have been a problem. Same goes for 1998. They lost the final somewhat controversially and Wakey were promoted. On false promises of a new ground and very dodgy financial data. And they somehow survived and have benefitted from that survival. That's it in a nutshell for me. Being the best team in the Championship in the 2010's but excluded hasn't helped matters. It all goes to prove that when you try to manipulate sports comps. there's usually trouble ahead. Watch out IMG.
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Just now, JohnM said:
Ah! Dreams! Turn one way and they become reality. Turn the other way, they become nightmares. Applies to any club: injecting millions year after year after is not enough. There have to be realistic, achievable. deliverables. No use putting in millions a year for player wages etc just for the love of a club. There has to be such momentum that when one funding injection stops, there's enough momentum for the club to continue and there has to be enough success for the next "investor" to be attracted. Are there any such people in the Featherstone catchment ?
I wonder Wakey dominated the RL in the 60's big crowds, championships and Wembley wins. But when the goose that had been laying the golden eggs died suddenly it was "save Trinity" they've never really been a force in the game since. Same applies to Bradford although their goose was more of the Ponzi variety
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42 minutes ago, Agbrigg said:
Pontefract, Knottingley and Ackworth, come on ! Ponte and Knottingley have far more Cas fans. Why not really scrape the barrel and add Purston and Wraggby. Fev never has and never will have a bigger fan base than those four clubs you mentioned. But like you say, no harm in dreaming
When I was a kid in the 50's my relatives in S Kirkby, S.Elmsall and Hemsworth were all Fev fans, That's how I (from Morley) come to be a Fev fan
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30 minutes ago, gazza77 said:
I was brought up and schooled in Ponte, before moving away to uni in 95 and never met a Cas fan whilst there until 6th form, when Cas and Ponte schools merged at NEW college. Maybe times have changed, it's 30 years since I left, and tbh what you say wouldn't suprise me given the time Fev have been out of the top flight and that Cas and Pontefract have become far closer in terms of residential development over that time.
As we both say, no harm in dreaming.
That's the point. SL has decimated Fev's support. Pre SL there were supporters buses from as far away as Pollington bringing Fev fans.
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23 hours ago, JohnM said:
Now that IS worrying. I can understand the drive to make the club successful means taking risks, juggling priorities and finances, but not at the players or fans expense. Not suggesting that Featherstone are in breach but it's essential that any company pays its employer NI contributions, PAYE deductions, VAT etc else it's in really big trouble.
After so much work seems to have gone into keeping the club going, it would be a shame if it was all lost.
again I worked for a company that had not been paying my NI contribution, it only came to light when i changed jobs. In business I'm afraid cash is king
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52 minutes ago, Bull Mania said:
Good win for Sheffield.
Wakey comfortable against Bradford.
Halifax battle past Dewsbury.
Fev pinch it against Batley(taking nothing away from Fev, but sounded like batley imploded. Had a set of 6 on Fevs line with 3 mins remaining. Threw a forward pass on first tackle. Dropped the kick on Fevs last tackle. Fev score and Hooter goes)
Whitehaven fight back against Swinton.
Doncaster with a shock result against York. Doncaster have recruited some big names but expected York to lay down a marker after their recruitment.
Widnes hammer Barrow with cards galore.
Both sides were out on their feet at the end. Batley were 18-0 up after twenty minutes, but they had the advantage of the slope. Fev scored one up the slope at the close of the first half. By the end there was only a penalty separating them. Could have gone either way.
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My information is that this sort of thing is endemic in Rugby League. Personally I think it's appalling. I went to Batley yesterday and watched two teams who at the end were out on their feet put up a tremendous advert for the game. They deserve every penny and should be first in line for payment.
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On 11/03/2024 at 15:25, gingerjon said:
No. But we're in a lot better shape than if we hadn't shifted.
who knows?
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17 minutes ago, JonM said:
Average crowd in the top flight pretty much doubled since the last winter season.
Amount of money in the game enough to support at least a dozen full-time clubs vs just 1 back then.
Fair to say that football has got a lot, lot bigger since then too, and rugby union has gone professional.
Rugby Union at the top level, from playing in front of two men and a dog (not Leicester or Northampton) but that was the sort of crowd some of the top London clubs could expect have gone to multi thousand crowds. In you post the key phrase is "in the top flight" the rest are struggling. To have a worthwhile game we need more than just the "top flight"
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2 hours ago, dkw said:
It was a nice throwback game as a novelty, but I done know how anyone would be happy seeing that kind of slog in a bog week in week out.
And of course the switch to summer has been a wonderful success hasn't it?
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A real, old fashioned, dog eat dog cup tie. Shame there had to be a loser. Bring back winter RL.
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12 hours ago, Padge said:
It is a real law of the game.
SECTION 10 - KNOCK-ON AND FORWARD PASS
NOTES Direction of pass
1. The direction of a pass is relative to the player making it and not to the actual path relative to the ground. A player running towards his opponents’ goal line may throw the ball towards a colleague who is behind them but because of the thrower’s own momentum the ball travels forward relative to the ground. This is not a forward pass as the thrower has not passed the ball forward in relation to themself. This is particularly noticeable when a running player makes a high, lobbed pass.
I thought it was a forward pass at the time, but if the ref didn't see it there's nothing to be done, them's the rules. As for the "double movement" I thought the Wigan player was pushed over the line by the Aussie wrestle.
The ball steal? Hard to say, stupid rule anyway. The Aussie "try" at the end? I couldn't see the ball grounded, and neither could the video ref. The on field ref was in a better position than anyone and he said no try. End of.
I thought it was a tight exciting game and any side that lost could consider themselves unlucky. Conversely any side that won could consider themselves lucky. Whether we are catching the Aussies as everyone says it s moot point. Well done Wigan. Anyone who's read my posts on here over the years knows I'm no Wigan fan.
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When I was at school Normanton Grammar were feared by all the Yorkshire Union schools teams. RIP
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5 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said:
thats like saying he should book 2 weeks in ibiza and stay in his room for a fortnite
All I can say is that when he was at Fev there were none of these perpetually recurring problems
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Great player, best player i've seen in a Fev shirt since Paul Newlove. He should come back to fev and settle down
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On 01/02/2024 at 13:29, gingerjon said:
We didn't have it in most of the years before, either.
The period running from, roughly, 1980-1994 is the outlier not the norm.
We beat them in 1970, and fairly regularly up until then. We ran them close in 1978. It was '82 and '86 where we began to struggle. in '88, 90, & '92 we gave them a game. Since then it's been no contest. Circumstantial evidence points to the problem being SL.
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21 hours ago, On the buses said:
The city of Carlisle region has a population of just over 110k with Carlisle proper having a population of 75k which is a perfect catchment area the game should be targeting especially when like you say it bridges the west Cumbrian and north east community game.
I would have thought that a properly set up Carlisle club could have benefitted from the Union players in the Scottish border area. As it was, when first formed, it seemed to consist of ex Fev players, who trained in Fev and only commuted to Carlisle for home games.
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6 hours ago, The Future is League said:
He would have been an outstanding Rugby League player, and surely your not suggesting that union clubs were paying their players before their game went honest in 1995?
As Tony Collins says in "The Codebreakers," the WRFU pretended they weren't paying the players and the RFU pretended to believe them, otherwise the whole home nations thing would have fallen apart.
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On 08/01/2024 at 20:47, Futtocks said:
Welsh Rugby Union player John (J.P.R.) Williams aged 74.
One that got away, from a RL perspective. He'd have done alright.
I recall reading somewhere that he was all set to sign for Hull FC in the early 80's, they'd even line a job up at a local hospital, but it fell through for some reason. Who knows? Union players presumably would spread rumours about signing RL to get a better deal from their clubs, and RL teams spread them to sell season tickets. In those days when if was all cloak and dagger, there's no way of telling.
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On 14/11/2023 at 11:19, Damien said:
I don't think this is the case at all. The Northern Union showed a great reluctance to really be anything more than just Yorkshire and Lancashire. From their point of view that's where the big clubs were and that's where the money was. In a time when travel was much more difficult Northern Union clubs just didn't want the expense or hassle of excess travel. Areas like the North East, Midlands and Wales were the London, Cornwall and France of today.
I am certain the Northern Union could have brought many more RU clubs and areas across if it so desired, it didn't, and the game has suffered the consequences ever since.
I always thought that having broke the "amateur" dam that many clubs would want to join the NU as professional clubs. After all that's what happened with the Football League.
With regard to amateurism I was amused by an incident recounted by Jonathan Davies. He was invited to give a talk before the Union Varsity game, in 1988 and received an envelope with £400 in cash to cover "expenses." A year later he did the same gig and got a cheque for £250 when he asked about the discrepancy he was told that as an amateur he'd been taking a risk, as a pro he wasn't.
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Certainly when I worked in Wigan, despite there being a league soccer club there, many of my workmates were Bolton or Blackburn fans.
Fri 22nd Mar-Sun 24th Mar: The Betfred Challenge Cup Sixth Round Match Thread
in The General Rugby League Forum
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I thought it was a brilliant piece. Rugby has been played at the Mount for nearly 150 years, but for how much longer under IMG? I was there the week before to watch Fev. Great atmosphere, very competitive game could have gone either way.