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  1. 1 hour ago, Wakefield Ram said:

    Great win , couldn't go, bit ironic as every time I do go, we lose. Maybe I should stay away. Sounds like Fax gave it away, but after all the narrow defeats last season great we hung on for the win. Looking at Twitter, we conceded 16 points in 12 minutes, so good job Fax didn't play for 80 mins at that level.

    We are not going to win the league, I'd be happy if we aren't looking over our shoulder at relegation all season and can finally beat Batley.

    Full match online 


    Ive watched the first half back and to be honest most of the penalties we conceded were justified but maybe we deserved 1 or 2 the other way but thats out of our control. What we can control is stepping over players trying to play the ball on the 5th tackle. On the sending off Im at a bit of a loss to work out what Grix was sent off for as the camera zooms out at the crucial moments. Two yellows and crack on for mine.

  2. 17 minutes ago, Crown Flatter said:

    I have to wonder though, what you would be like if Murrell is injured, as most play seems to be inspired by  him. 

    We would spend 60 minutes giving penalties away and the other 20 not looking like scoring. 😂

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  3. 9 hours ago, Crown Flatter said:

    Halifax were the masters of their own downfall in one way, with all the penalties conceded in the first half (9 against our three), but our team effort was superior, especially that defensive effort I n the final quarter, after we had grabbed back the lead. 

    No team deserves to win any game with a discipline performance like we served up in the first half. 10-2 penalty count according to our coach and just an embarassing performance in that sense apart from maybe 15 minutes in the second half where we actually tried to play some rugby. Easier for our fans to blame the ref though rather than point the finger where it really lies which is our players. I can take been beaten by a better team on the day but what really pees me off is when a team really doesn't have to do much to win a game which is what happened last night. Gameplan against Fax just play your sets and hold the ball knowing Fax will give penalty after penalty.

  4. 28 minutes ago, The Phantom Horseman said:

    When we played Fax I was always more worried when the ball went to the right side than the left, Johnston only worried you when he got the ball in broken play. My general rule of thumb was that whenever Fax scored on the right side Murrell had a hand in it and whenever Fax scored on the left side it was usually Tyrer catching a kick (or Grady breaking a tackle).

    To be fair on that point, when Grady broke a tackle most of time it was from a Johnston pass. Those two had a really good relationship on the pitch and losing Grady for the season had a massive impact on us as we lost Grix at the same time. 

  5. 1 hour ago, JonM said:

    Sounds like a fairly bad-tempered game, one red card apiece and Halifax having two players sinbinned. Three penalties to Dewsbury make it 0-6 at HT.

    A little bit of handbags at one point but the reds appear to be for a Dewsbury player either kneeing or punching Scott Grix on the floor and Grix retaliating. I think 2 yellows would have been fine for it but the other 2 yellows were for persistant foul play by Fax. A totally appaling display from Halifax, I think the penalty count was 1-11 in the first half. You don't play with that penalty count and with 3 players off the field and win rugby games.

  6. 23 hours ago, The Phantom Horseman said:

    I'm still finding it hard to believe that York have regressed that much. I mean, Will Sharp is a big upgrade on their previous outside backs, and Washbrook and Clarkson ought to be upgrades too, but I guess we shouldn't understimate just how bad "Jinky Johnno" is.

    I'm thinking in terms of tiers at the moment
    Tier 1 Leigh, Toulouse, Fev and London
    Tier 2 Bradford, Widnes and York
    Tier 3 Halifax and Sheffield
    Tier 4 Batley, Dewsbury and Swinton
    Tier 5  Whitehaven and Oldham

    I dont think you will be far off with that although I think Tier 2 and Tier 3 will basically be one. Saying that we lose to Dewsbury tonight we might make up part of tier 4. :)

    Regarding York I would have kept Sharp at Fax, I would rather have him at FB than Grix but I think Johnston was part of a group of players that should have been moved on over the last couple of seasons and I were surprised York went for him but been best mates with the coach probably helped him. They only had to look at Fax and their attack to see the organiser and runner did not work in Murrell and Johnston and that is what they re-created with Robinson and Johnston although its early days for that partnership.

  7. 1 hour ago, The Phantom Horseman said:

    Looking at how the score evolved it doesn't really sound like Sheffield came close to turning Toulouse over, 4-20 at half time and 8-26 until Sheffield scored in the last minute when Toulouse were down to 12 men. Toulouse didn't have Ford and had back rower Con Mika playing at half back with Barthau and centre Jussaume alternating at hooker, so probably not realistic to judge them on that - I still think Sheffield will struggle this year.

    Leigh's good start continues, hard to knock them being favourites now though York's lack of spark has to be a concern for them now, they really should have kicked on this year but they look to have gone backwards so far, still early days though.

    Sounds like Widnes' bubble burst to a degree yesterday, the question mark was always how they would hold up against a strong pack and the answer against London appears to have been not very well. London are a fairly big team in that their centres are bigger than a lot of forwards in thsi league, thought Widnes might give them the runaround but clearly not. Apparently a small section of Widnes fans singing abusive songs about their Warrington DR players, that's not going to help their cause if true, they are going to need all the help they can get with depth.

    Still looks a greta comp thsi year and some encouraging crowd figures considering the terrible weather we've had.

    I certainly didn't expect us to be unbeaten after the first 3 weeks.🤣

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  8. A couple of surprise results in Sheffield nearly turning Toulouse over and Oldham beating Haven at theirs. Bradford was never going to be a blowout on a tight soggy pitch and anyone who has seen York this season will not have been surprised by that result. I thought the handicap mark of about 14 was printing money. Oh and London was a big surprise if we are honest, I think a lot of people could have seen Widnes win a tight game.

  9. On 12/02/2020 at 11:14, The Blues Ox said:

    Waiting for the bookies so here goes:-

    Batley Bulldogs v Swinton Lions  (Batley -8)
    Bradford Bulls v Featherstone Rovers (Bradford +14)
    Halifax v Dewsbury Rams (Halifax -10)
    Leigh Centurions v York City Knights (Leigh -16)
    Sheffield Eagles v Toulouse Olympique (Sheffield +18)
    Whitehaven v Oldham KO 6.15pm (Whitehaven -6)
    Widnes Vikings v London Broncos (Widnes -2)

    If  the handicaps were anywhere near those(I think Leigh will be better than -16 so will be a no brainer) I would be taking Bradford, Fax, Leigh, Sheffield, Haven, and Widnes.

    So actual handicaps out....
    Batley -6
    Bradford +8
    Halifax -10
    Leigh -14
    Sheffield +14
    Haven -6

    Widnes -4


  10. Waiting for the bookies so here goes:-

    Batley Bulldogs v Swinton Lions  (Batley -8)
    Bradford Bulls v Featherstone Rovers (Bradford +14)
    Halifax v Dewsbury Rams (Halifax -10)
    Leigh Centurions v York City Knights (Leigh -16)
    Sheffield Eagles v Toulouse Olympique (Sheffield +18)
    Whitehaven v Oldham KO 6.15pm (Whitehaven -6)
    Widnes Vikings v London Broncos (Widnes -2)

    If  the handicaps were anywhere near those(I think Leigh will be better than -16 so will be a no brainer) I would be taking Bradford, Fax, Leigh, Sheffield, Haven, and Widnes.

  11. 14 hours ago, jamescolin said:

    Just having a laugh and a bit of humour. Thanks to all that participated. I am getting more participation than when we have actual voting. Ok some of it might be drivel but at least we are keeping it light hearted. My apologies but it is the way my mind works I love a laugh and the make up of words and their variations have always intrigued me. UTR. A bit of humour chases blues away, that plus a mental dustbin for stuff not worth bothering about. Better than tossing and turning in bed and worrying about nought of consequence. Ok ALL get a mental dustbin. If things are of consequence write down all the possible answers, pick one, do it and forget the worry. This method has worked for me for a long time. Unclutter the brain. 

    Won't chase me away. 😀

  12. Modern society has turned people in to a bunch of fannys.

    I remember in the early 90's been on the terracing at Thrum Hall(god rest her soul) in the snow against Widnes and wanting to go about ten minutes before the end of the game. My dad told me in no uncertain words we would not be leaving the game early. Little bit of rain nowadays and people dont want to go outside.

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  13. On 08/02/2020 at 12:00, Ainley Top said:

    Absolutely. And to think there's Fax fans who see him as the leader of our pack. 😅 I can't see us getting much out of tomorrow's game but 🤞 you never know. 

    Only 1 leader of our pack . If Fax fans don't know who that is then it makes you wonder what games they have been watching for the last few seasons.

  14. On 06/02/2020 at 19:13, The Blues Ox said:

    So handicap wise....

    Leigh -16 V Sheffield

    Toulouse -34 V Oldham

    London -32 V Whitehaven

    Swinton -4 V Dewsbury

    Widnes -20 V Batley

    York -8 V Bradford

    Fev -12 V Halifax


    I said I would take Toulouse with anything up to -36 so Im still taking that. Nothing really stands out apart from maybe Batley at -20. I expect Widnes to win the game comfortably but not sure if its 20 points comfortably.

    Bang on 20 points pfffttt.

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  15. 11 hours ago, Manfred Mann said:

    Interesting  coincidence that both Leigh and Toulouse each scored 11 tries and 7 goals in their respective victories today.

    Leigh let in two tries, Toulouse one.

    It is looking like Toulouse and Leigh could perhaps be playing against each other at the season's end for the right to be promoted to Super League.  I suppose that Featherstone, London and Widnes might also compete, but of course it is too early to know.

    I am surprised that Sheffield performed so poorly today. Were they suffering from injuries to regular first choice players?

    Leigh played a Friday night fixture, Sheffield played a tough Sunday fixture. It would have had a bearing.

  16. Getting someone to talk on the pitch is, in my opinion, one of the hardest skills to develop. A lot of it comes down to understanding the game at a good level because the players around the player in question have to believe that person knows what they are doing.  In junior rugby its quite a problem in that you can teach different skills to players but to get someone on the pitch at a young age and been able to take a team around the field is pretty difficult.

    Personally for me I would put more worth on a scrum half with very little skill but a big mouth who can take the team around the field over a scrum half with the razzle dazzle skills that were mentioned at least at amateur and junior level anyway.

    Not sure about tips but all I would say is study the game and go deeper in to game plans and the players that execute them also speak to your coach afterall its his gameplan you are probably going to be following. By the sounds of it you are putting it in when defending which always gets respect from the bigger/older players so maybe speak to them away from the pitch about your concerns over bossing them around, you will get more respect from doing that and to be fair most of the big guys just want to hit the ball up hard so you are not stopping them doing that just moving them to where you want them to do that so they won't be bothered.

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  17. 1 hour ago, headtackle said:

    Players come and go and hinder the development/game time of local youngsters. Imagine trying to make it in the game and being in one week out the next. 



    We don't have local youngsters.......they are all snapped up by the Sl clubs. If they don't make it then some will filter back to the Championship others will go to the amateur game and some will quit.

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