The Blues Ox
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Yeah good game, Bradford dominating but lacking ideas to break Widnes down, just feel like next try wins it.
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Just now, JonM said:
Any idea why Lloyd Roby got 10 minutes - assume he said something?
Spear/tip tackle.
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Another controversial decision with 10 minutes for a spear tackle with very little in it.
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11 minutes ago, Spidey said:
May have a better contest on a bigger pitch. Creating gaps is a bit of an issue at Odsal ain’t it
Yeah you can lose 2 players on that pitch and it still not really affect your defensive structure.
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Bradford look pretty powerful but are clearly lacking quality in the halves. Widnes have defended well and probably look a touch more dangerous with the ball in hand. Good contest so far just feeling like Widnes may run out of steam late on.
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Could be a disasterous game for Fax losing 3 of our players with possible season ending injuries in Calcott(Broken Knee cap), Crooks(Broken Foot), OBrien(Possible torn bicep) and as someone on the Fax forum has just noted, it leaves us unable to name a 21 man squad before the season has even started properly.
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A very high quality game which was nice given how poor the skill levels at SL have been so far. A couple of decisions that may have resulted in cards under the new interpretations but nice to see a game reffed with common sense in mind. They may need a mop and bucket to wipe up the Saints fans tears that had been spilt after the final hooter though.
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4 hours ago, Griff said:
Playing side's nice but it's not as important as it used to be. People need to start grasping this.
I'm surprised at how many people who post on here are unaware of how big the changes are and speaking to some friends at amateur clubs they have not even heard about the changes and still talk about promotion on the field.
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What an awful take by journalist Matt Shaw. He is normally ok but this is a disgraceful view about the situation.
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I love the score updates, can quickly decide if I want to change channels or not.
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1 hour ago, sentoffagain2 said:
Sorry they would be behind a few other Championship teams not mentioned.
Yeah Oldham are years off been anywhere near for SL, they should concentrate on winning League 1 and getting established in the Championship before anything else. Funny they would probably have had more of a chance under the old structure.
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2 minutes ago, Dave T said:
It's really classless for people to be attacking players making a legal claim.
Very much this.
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35 minutes ago, Derwent said:
But if they can’t play under international rules then how come Wigan are doing exactly that this evening ? Are their players playing without insurance ? Will players be uninsured when they play for England ?
Hit the nail on the head, you can't just relax the interpreatations willy nilly when it comes to insurance. I don't get the whole insurance thing anyway, I mean who insures Ice Hockey or Amercian Football in this country? American Football in particular is prone to more head injuries than RL. Or is it simply a case of the RFL do not have the money that some insurers want to charge and this is all a bit of a smokescreen?
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2 hours ago, Dave T said:
I asked this during the game, and didn't see it answered, but can a referee now watch the big screen? Because that appeared to be happening last night.
Really they should be allowed to, it gives them a moment to pause and breathe without making a rash decision. Not a problem with this at all. I didn't have a problem with him watching it back then asking the VR to have a look at the merits of a penalty try. In my opinion though there is no way we can say without reasonable doubt that the player would have scored because of the initial contact on the shoulder, if that initial contact is on the neck then its a foul to start with and I think a penalty try would be fine. I think a penalty and a yellow card would have been a better decision.
2 hours ago, phiggins said:Was it an error by officials, given the new rules?
This is the problem isn't it? Players have been warned about head to head contact and duty of care of the defender to keep his head out of the head space of the attacking player. Brown does not do that when he possibly could have. We need some common sense though.
50 minutes ago, jacksy said:There was more than one.
Yeah I think there was at least 5 or 6 decisions that could have had a bearing on the result either through penalty tries given/not given or a number of incidents that could have/should have resulted in a card or different color card. Its just a very poor performance but we all have that in us but the one thing that bothered me was that late in the game we saw 2 incidents that looked really clear at the minimum yellow cards that were not acted on almost as if we are saying its late in the game lets not stir the pot more. I would not surprise if the late shot results in a ban which again just makes a bit of a mockery of the game went.
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As someone who has complimented ref's on how they had handled games this season, in my opinion that was easily the worst officiated game we have seen so far and its not really close. There were just a whole host of incidents and decisions that made little sense, not just the sending off, but then we had little consistancy when we had at least two further incidents, another late shot and another high shot, that you feel should have resulted in yellow cards but seemingly were not even given a second glance.
That is without mentioning an incorrect play the ball call where the player literally could not have gone through the motion of playing the ball any better other than the ball going end over end which is totally fine if you want to do that. Just a really bad night at the office for the officials and it will be interesting to see the fallout from this.
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Incorrect play the ball because he played it end over end. Can't see anything in the rules that says it can't be played like that.
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How is that not a yellow card? Totally confused at this point.
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How is that a penalty try? The initial contact is on the shoulder, surely they can't say for certain he scores after that contact.
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Also how come the commentators can hear the video ref but the viewers cant?
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2 Last night that looked a lot worse than that. That just can't be a red card seems very little intent there at all.
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https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/luke-robinson-rugby-league-head-28695035
Nice to see another player supporting making the game safer rather than pretending to be 10 men like some of the current players whos posts you see on Twitter each week. Interesting that Luke also mentions that he did not know the risks again if you listen to some current pro's you would believe at 10 years old when they started playing they knew exactly the consequences of getting bashed round the head repeatedly. -
3 hours ago, Click said:
Are they relaxing rules? Or are they playing under international rules which is what regularly happens for these games.
You could be right but again if a player were unfortunate enough to get a serious injury then they would be in a position to sue the RFL because they decided, despite knowing the risks, to play the game under an outdated set of rules that meant the players were not as safe as they could be. I get the need for compromise but when it comes to player welfare it can't just be treat like an On/Off switch, that is unless all the talk about insurance was a little bit of a white lie told by the RFL.
Interesting to see what happens next season once the tackle height is further lowered in our game. Again there is a possibility that international games are covered by a different insurer but I think that is highly unlikely.
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I would prefer if the original poster would refer to the player by his full name in the title. As a Fax fan I was nearly calling for our board to be sacked.
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1 hour ago, Click said:
What do you think they do when they finish playing SL rules at the Grand Final and then England have to turn out against international teams?
Ive not a clue but afterall its not the Purge, seems strange that they can relax the rules for one game.
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