LeytherRob
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8 hours ago, HKRBob said:
Really good stuff from Leigh in front of a sell out crowd.
They can obviously score points, but they really got into the grind of a game. God knows what happened last week, but they are really good when they play like that!
It’s a much younger/inexperienced squad at Leigh this year which always tends to come with inconstancies. Last night was a high water mark but we could quite easily get a hiding next week.
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Great game that, though Leigh did well to ride out the first half. Wigan really front loaded their effort looking to blitz us which to be fair has worked comfortably several times recently.
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On watching both the Martin and Horne incidents, i'm struggling to see how there is 6 games of ban worth of difference between the 2 incidents. Martin clearly pulls the shirt up on a downed player and so does Horne.
I get the need for and support a zero-tolerance stance on things even if a player isn't actually injured, but I would be pretty angry if I was a Cas fan when you see a very similar incident go unpunished in the same evening's tribunal.
Personally, I just want to see referees given the power to stop teams taking the mick when it comes to time wasting. Wigan* really pushed the limits on it last weekend with some tackles taking around 10 seconds to get a play the ball and the referee having to ask the player to play the ball multiple times. There doesn't seem to be any directive where referees can actually punish this within the rules.
*Every team does it, I'm just using it as an example
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That is heartbreaking for Cas
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Just now, Bostik Bailey said:
You mean ‘Nothing in that’ says Wiganer Arron Moore as a Wigan player appears to hold back a player form collecting the ball.
It was a shocker, I don’t even think Dupree collected it cleanly. He looked to drag it along the floor into his body which should be a knock on.
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“Nothing in that” says the VR as Harry Smith tackles a player without the ball and isn’t even looking at the ball
. That was a shocker
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10 hours ago, Tommygilf said:
How about Leeds not knocking the ball on over the line, the tackled player not being able to move out of the way of a line of players advancing towards him, and "Joffa" losing the ball in the act of scoring?
The regrip interpretation has been in place for years now. I don’t personally agree with it as it removes opportunities for spectacular tries which sell the sport, but it was the correct decision until they change the ruling.
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Story of Leigh’s performance, a nice move immediately followed by a dumb error and some awful defence
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8 minutes ago, Mark S said:
Leeds have scored all of their tries off the back on Leigh’s mistakes.
Yeah it’s been a frustrating watch
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Surprised a penalty wasn’t given for dragging McIntosh into touch after held called, that’s usually always a penalty.
Doesn’t excuse the poor error and defence that followed for Leigh, mind.
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1 minute ago, DemonUK said:
So from the latest report I read there is the following quote:-
The club say the bridging loan will clear all of the club's debts, which will then unlock money from investors, though it remains unclear what the benefits are for the investment group.
Can someone please explain how, if the locked money that will only be released on repayment of all debts, how it can be released when they have just replaced the debts with another debt. I really don't think that is such a stupid question. I am quite willing to be told it is stupid ......... with an explanation
Yeah it all makes no sense to me. Looking at typical bridging loan rates online, it’s at least 0.75% of the loan value per month, with 2% of the loan value as set up fee plus legal costs etc. if they’re taking out a £1-2M loan those fees will be massive. Then even if the investors are just going to clear that debt, why not just clear the initial debts for less money? Even a completely debt free SRD isn’t going to suddenly be ok, the crowds, central funding or commercial deals just aren’t anywhere near close enough to be self sustaining or they wouldn’t be in this mess in the first place.
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1 minute ago, Dave T said:
What would have been better about that?
They'd still be struggling to pay the bills, and they'd still be struggling to win games.
It's all a bit of e technical point really. The alternative really wasn't much better - saving tens of thousands a month of course makes sense, but the issues are far bigger than that.
I don't think there can be any argument it wouldn't have been better as we now know there have been multiple loans taken out to pay players which would have been avoided.
We can argue whether it would have been good enough but" better" is out of the question. Less debt to service is always better in this scenario.
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1 hour ago, Tommygilf said:
Salford's new bridge leads them nowhere.
Well the club is situated on the other side of a bridge to a whole lot of excrement at the waste treatment plant. It’s almost poetic.
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40 minutes ago, LeeF said:
I’d love to know where they are claiming the bridging loan is going to be repaid from
Paul King must have a massive house for the collateral on that one
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16 minutes ago, Red Willow said:
Do you think Stone got an offer on the morning of the game? this is something he would have known about probably for over a week as a minimum. He could have gone to Rowley as soon as he had the offer and said boss don't pick me.
He has been injured for much of this season, Salford could have sent him home to recover as cost cutting but didn't.
I get the uncertainty over pay isn't what any one would want for a player but Sneyd and Watkins both managed to leave the club with best wishes of everyone.
He didn't pull out on the morning of the game, it was the day before at captains run
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5 hours ago, daz39 said:
Matt Frawley back to Huddersfield, apparently.
God knows why, he was awful for us 1st time round and even worse for Leeds, well i do, Clune injured again so it's cover for the backs.
I feel like you'd be better served with Lolohea and Rush in the halves rather than going back to Frawley
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1 hour ago, Just Browny said:
I suspect they don't even have a table as neat as LeytherRob's.
I often wonder if there isn't potential for a consultancy business within our little tribe of TRL nerds.
I really do have too much time on my hands at work sometimes, I was just surprised I hadn't included a pivot table of some sort when I loaded it up
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5 hours ago, HurricanesSC said:
Incredible how many fans are defending what Stone (and presumably Cross) have done to force an exit from the club. Salford's owners have been a disgrace since taking over but ultimately these players got paid (even if late on some occasions) and refusing to play the day before a game in those circumstances is simply unacceptable.
Even if you think he's right to "stick it to the club" he's shown he's not really a team player and is quite happy to leave his colleagues in the lurch for his own ends. Sounds like he's going to fit in with Warrington just fine.
As for Rowley's comments, Stone brought that on himself when it got leaked by Sky and the rest of the press that he'd thrown his toys out of the pram. I'm sure he was also speaking for most of the team who - rightly - would not go public about how they felt.
I appreciate my boyhood club are a laughing stock at this point and we'll take our punishment for that fairly soon, but the number of people using that to justify embarrassing behaviour from others is quite frankly pathetic.
It's nothing to do with sticking it to the club and no one on here has advocated that. It's about a player protecting his own interests and career. Sam Stone has a good opportunity lined up to escape the dire financial circumstances at Salford and if he picks up a bad knee injury in an ultimately lost cause of a game it risks blowing up that deal and leaving him stuck at a club that can't afford to pay his wages. There is zero point in him risking himself.
My opinion is 'good for Sam Stone'. Not because I wish Salford any harm but because I was at a company about 10 years ago that was in serious trouble that ultimately folded and made everyone redundant - getting out on my own terms about 3/4 months before the end was a huge weight lifted off me and I know it'll be a big relief for those getting out at Salford.
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Just now, Gooleboy said:
Lancashire Cup, Yorkshire Cup, No6 Trophy, Floodlit Trophy, Premiership Trophy, Plate Competition, Northern Rail Cup, Captain Morgan Trophy, War of the Roses. They do have form!
Don’t forget the transpennine cup, and the Northern Rail Bowl
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I’m hoping they don’t scrap the comp entirely, 2nd tier needs neutral ground finals for that event feel. It’s bad enough the grand final got switched to a home game which used to get some decent crowds.
Left field shout, but I think LSV would be potentially a good place to have the final - the size is about right and with AB Sundecks sponsoring the comp the RFL would probably get a good deal out of Beaumont to continue sponsorship and put on the same prematch band/fireworks/lasers etc that Leigh matches get since he’s got his own company doing it all now. It would be a fairly cost effective option that could still deliver a fairly good ‘event’ feel whilst being not much of a travel burden for clubs most likely to get there.
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2 minutes ago, daz39 said:
I stand corrected, i couldn't find 2017 ones, besides they weren't for my stand, the cheap deals worked when we were doing well and people wanted to come and bring the family, it's not so good now we're rubbish and the whole experience is poor, people have drifted away and do other things now, i'm talking long term fans too not just newbies.
The problem Huddersfield have with perception is that they’ve been the ones driving it for a number of years now as those links show, usually fronted by Richard Thewlis. Even when the majority of tickets are a bit more expensive, and I take the point that the bargain prices only apply to certain areas, the club position these cheap tickets front and centre of the season launch.
For any outsider looking in, Huddersfield are positioning themselves as Poundland amongst M&S, Waitrose, Morrisons and Asda. New customers on the whole just don’t pick their entertainment based on it being a cheap day/night out anymore, there is just far too much saturation in the market.
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19 minutes ago, daz39 said:
Apart from the 2021, the 1st after Covid which were £99 we haven't had double figure season cards since 2014 and then they were for the bottom tier behind the posts, also £99 but as with our crowds that is now the perception of our club.
And the perception is entirely accurate. This was still in my google sheets from last time you claimed it was only a couple of years of cheap tickets. 2017 also had £99 tickets, but even the years that didn't were under £150 which is still way too cheap for an adult season ticket.
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10 hours ago, phiggins said:
It’s a loophole that needs to be closed, so you’re specifically challenging the right and wrong of the specific decision given, and not what went on before.
personally I’d prefer to get rid of captain’s challenge. Liked the idea of it initially but it’s just too many stoppages, watching blurred replays of errors over and over again. Not good given our need to be as attractive a sport as we can be to new viewers.
Yeah I’d get rid of it. I thought I wanted it, but I’ve gotten so sick of waiting around for Ben Thaler to spend 5 minutes watching every conceivable angle only to go with the original decision that I find myself just wanted a decision even if it goes against Leigh. In the ground it just sucks all the atmosphere out.
Don’t even get me started on teams using it when they’re 20+ points up with minutes to go….just get on with the game so everyone can go home!
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On Nsemba, the preseason talk from Peet is that he was nearly 20kg heavier than 12 months previous. I think the extra weight has nullified him a little as a second row and he looks more like a middle these days. Last year he looked a lot more agile and dynamic in contact than he has this year.