Wholly Trinity
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13 hours ago, Josef K said:
With not being up on the East, West, North, South parts of Belle Vue which stand is where the TV cameras go. Id be happy with just a bit of a corrugated tin roof to keep me dry and some decent terracing.
The west is where the cameras go and the small roof was originally intended to go the whole length. Issues with sky wanting camera mountings and some height issue with planning meant that this never happened.
The North terrace roof was done at the same time under momentum of the new Glover regime before it fell apart. It was a cheap effort which was seen as temporary (like all additions to BV at the time) as the new stadium at Newmarket was imminent. I'm sure it was just coincidental that the SL licensing renewals were progressing at the same time and they had to be seen to be doing something.
The Carter regime has a different outlook and is very much focused on increasing revenue to establish long-term viability without a sugar daddy. This is the first time that BV has been seen as the permanent home for the club. The new all-singing, all-dancing west stand will provide income sources never previously available at BV.
Unfortunately, spending money on the other sides will not generate the ROI possible from that development and hence put on hold until some future, indeterminate, date.
The focus is on bang for buck from a limited £12m budget.
It will be interesting to see how much Cas manage to squeeze out of Axiom and what they decide to do with it. Their initial plans seem much more ambitious and will require significantly more cash. Axiom do seem a little more forthcoming and honest than Wakefield's developer, but it's early stages yet, so we will have to wait and see.
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25 minutes ago, OMEGA said:
Weird isn’t it, there are no players on the field but even weirder there are no posts up
Bill Gates is probably behind it.
Imagine remembering the mascot, corner posts and tackle bags but forget the posts and players...
Hoax stadium rebuild!!
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Just now, PREPOSTEROUS said:
Good job he did when he did, otherwise it would've got rather complicated!
Indeed. Maybe Wakefield got a tip-off? Lucky really and a turning point for the club.
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27 minutes ago, Kirmonds pouch said:
They will.
That’s what the 6 million is for.
Brilliant work when you think about it. Each club gets enough to get them started and each set of fans cannot be aggrieved.
Yet that money is a fraction of what one new stadium let alone two or even three would cost.
That money and perhaps a few more helping hands here and there immediately let’s WMDC off the hook as the worst provider of community sports facilities of any MDC in England.
You gotta hand it to them. I also think Cas will find their way to some very cheap council loans, ditto Fev should they ever need it.
All a council has to get to justifying a loan is to receive more in tenure than leaving it in a bank, ie 0.001% would do.
Also just for the benefit of our resident Cas red neck Les Tonks I’d like to put him straight on one piece of false propaganda he keeps peddling.
Trinity did NOT pay over the odds for BV. The seller knew we needed the ground back to meet SL criteria. He was in no hurry to sell, we had to approach him.
He was a businessman all be it a dodgy one but he only followed the basic laws of capitalism. He sold it for the most he knew he could squeeze out of us, you’d do the same if you were selling your house impromptu!
Forget about Red book values, utter nonsense in the real world, the vendor can charge what he likes, they are a guide nothing more. He did well but we got what we desperately needed although at the top end of our budget.
As is life, since then property prices have risen and the value is more or less even now. So do shut up on that one, wasn’t clever when you first peddled out your one fact and now it’s irrelevant.
Although it does suggest that the proposed RL Resilience Fund of up to £2M each can be used to meet RFL conditions on stadium facilities but the main thrust is on increasing community usage. A condition is to produce an annual report on impact.
Whilst it's obvious that the 4g pitch and refurbishment of the existing clubhouse for community use at BV will go a long way to meeting these requirements, the picture is less clear at WR.
They will probably need significantly more than £2M to improve the stadium and increase community use. Hopefully, they will decide on the future of WR quickly and seek additional funding.
The overpayment for buying back BV is an urban myth.
On face value, Manni Hussein bought it from Bank of Ireland for £1.7M and the club paid £3M.
However, MH got it for an absolute bargain because (for rather mysterious reasons best known to the council leader and a certain Knight of the Realm) the club was told not to bid for it. What the club eventually bought was not only the stadium but also all the land up to Doncaster Road which had been cleared of existing buildings (superbowl, wimpy, etc.). They also paid the market rate as, at the time, MH was on no rush to sell.
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4 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:
Great , but as I put , shame they couldn't include more non match day income generation
The new stand includes a 300 seat restaurant/function room. This is additional to those in the current clubhouse.
A big source of income will be the multi-use 4g pitch. Talk of Wakefield FC returning from Fev. Money will be saved on renting facilities for training and playing at many sites for the multitude of teams, firsts, reserves, academy, women, pdrl, ldrl etc.
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7 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:
True , but Wakey don't need an 11 K capacity currently , they could easily run at current levels , providing this new stand gets built , although it either looks expensive for what it is , or it could have done with having more non match day income generation built into it , all IMO
How much will it cost?
I think the contribution from the developers was mooted at 7.8 or 8.4 million previously. There are other sources of income and the chairman has been negotiating hard to squeeze a suitable amount from the developers.
The total budget I think includes the new stand with all the facilities detailed, north terrace refurb and remodel, car park and fan zone, roof on the current clubhouse, new floodlights, a 4g pitch, permanent big screen and I think the community refit of the clubhouse once the new stand is open.
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1 hour ago, Saint Toppy said:
And thats exactly the point I was making on the £100M thread regarding upkeep of old stadia. Unless clubs spend large sums every year they get their capacity reduced by the Council
Indeed, and if you're planning on moving to a brand new stadium, there's no point in spending any more than the minimum to keep it open.
The latest drops in capacity were a few years ago when they found the safety barrier anchor points were not secure. An initiative from fans to do the structural work on many of them meant it still got a certificate.
The stadium is mainly built on ash covered with concrete which is well past its sell-by date. 19th century engineering.
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2 hours ago, GUBRATS said:
8K ?
, Seriously
I think the current limit for the safety certificate is 7400 or 7600. The exact same layout had a capacity of 11000 for the first 'million pound' game against Cas.
The North terrace capacity will increase slightly with renovation even with removing the NE corner. The new east stand may be actually a reduction to 2500 all-seater (not sure of the current mixed capacity). The Western terrace and benidorm flats in the south will not be changed in this phase. Renovating the crumbling west would probably put it back up to something like 11k.
The overall effect will be a modest increase in capacity, but a big increase in facilities that can generate income.
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8 hours ago, Shadow said:
I am 56 and have never spent more than 5 years in the same company
I'm similar. Although a mere whipper-snapper at 53, my current job is my longest at 4 years. It's also the lowest paid job I've ever had.
My CV says, "always seeking new challenges" which translates as "gets bored quickly.
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1 hour ago, graveyard johnny said:
axl rose is an anagram
Well, blow me! I never realised that.
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1 hour ago, Johnoco said:
Half the people in Lancashire still don't.
It's witchcraft a tell thee. Mind control from over th' Pennines
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In the Indonesian language, number bond pairs up to 10 begin with the same unique letter.
Satu 1 + 9 Sembilan
Dua 2 + 8 Delapan
Tiga 3 + 7 Tujuh
Empat 4 + 6 Enam
Lima 5 + 5 Lima (obvs)
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?? prac is not a real word. It's short for practice.
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14 minutes ago, Moose said:
Whereabouts in Wakey is your office? ?
Strange that you find bananas tasteless.
Wakefield's equatorial suburbs ☺
I used to like bananas until I had real bananas ripened on the plant. There's such a wide variety of shapes, sizes and flavours, but supermarkets seem to insist on the same old Cavendish cultivar from sunny Derbyshire. Again, picked unripe and shipped from the carribean, compared to others, they taste like polystyrene.
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On 4/21/2018 at 7:24 PM, Moose said:
I've just eaten my first avacado pear, I had it on wholemeal bread with peanut butter.
Couldn't taste the avocado, should have stuck to my usual combo of banana and peanut butter.
There's an avocado tree directly outside my office door. (out of season)
You can't beat the sweet/nutty flavour of a fresh, ripe avocado.
The problem is in the UK they're picked and imported massively under-ripe, so they're generally taseless (like bananas).
If it's ripe it should be easy to indent the skin with your thumb and the stone/seed will probably rattle. The flesh should be soft and quite yellow.
Top Tip: If it's not ripe yet, put it in a bag of dried rice for a day or two. Once it's ripe you can store it in the fridge for about a week. Once opened, if you want to save half, put the stone back in place to prevent it going black.
Wakefield Trinity plans submision
in The General Rugby League Forum
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If only that were true...
Away fans on the Western terrace won't actually benefit from this development, other than having something nicer to have a poor view of.
Also, the east stand won't be finished until next summer at the earliest.
We're used to being torn apart. We'd miss it really.