Joe Aitcheson
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Ike once told me that the fee was £11,000 plus the price of a bottle of whisky ( hence £2 and 10 shillings) to create a new world record… chairman Tom’s idea!
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Blimey, for all the fuss I thought it must be a Hamas flag calling for the destruction of Israel !!
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What sort of flag and where?
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1 hour ago, Andy JG said:
I too went to this game....by 1995 i'd stopped going watching Leigh regularly but a mate asked me if I fancied going... I'd somehow got it into my mind that Workington had run up 100 points...
I can't really say looking back it's a bad memory though....all part of life really, something to look back on etc..
I reckon the reason you thought we had scored 100 points was because the ref started seeing non existent forward passes in the last 10 minutes, so we wouldn’t get to 100. But hey, we all have bad days, look at us now!
My worst ever game was my only ever rugby union match in 1967, South of Scotland v NZ All Blacks, it was pathetic ( and that was the All Blacks and they won by 40 points!) but it was a compulsory school trip. My best ever came a week later, when Cumberland beat a full strength Australia 17-15 at Derwent Park, a week before the 1st test on that Ashes trip. When I told my PE teacher about the vast gap in class between the 2 games, the bigot made my life hell, but that’s rugger union people for you. -
On 29/12/2023 at 20:55, Havenfan10 said:
Clayton Friend...Whitehaven.
How sad , but how typical. He wasn’t fit to lace Boxer’s boots.
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Ruck….. a stupid rugger union word that should never be heard in rugby league.
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Paul Charlton, best full back I’ve ever seen.
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12 hours ago, pahars said:
Without wanting to drag this cross code, a Union loving acquaintance had a very negative, patronising view of our last World Cup to the effect of : those Islander chaps are plucky but they shouldn’t beat your top teams.
I have absolutely loved Fiji RU beating England at home and the Wallabies.
How typically arrogant and ignorant of the average rugger fan.
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It’s a great shame when we lose any club, but the Skolars’ decision to step down has to mean a restructuring below SL, but if you do the obvious and combine the championship with L1, how do you produce a fixture list for 23 clubs who require 26 games? One way would be to have each club play the rest once and have 4 extra fixtures with local teams to you, to produce derbies? Another way would be to go back to the days of one division in the whole league ( pre mid 70s) where for instance my club Workington played all the other Cumbrian and Lancs teams home and away, plus 4 Yorkshire or “eastern “ teams to get 34 fixtures. The problem there was that sometimes an eastern team or 2 might be reclassified as western to even up the 2 sides. If that format returned, looking at the teams below SL, would say Keighley and Newcastle be happy about being put into the western half?
Its a bit of a minefield, but something needs to be done, and for certain a L1 of 9 clubs is not sustainable.-
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You’re right Ian, I’m listening from Scotland and the commentary is abysmal. I’m afraid that Walshy is having a bad day ( sorry John) and Joe Kirkup ( presumably) isn’t miked up correctly. There are long periods of crowd noise and nothing else.
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12 hours ago, townie88 said:
Just read Fergus Simpson has gone to play rugby union.
Good riddance to him then, if that’s the limit of his ambitions.
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5 minutes ago, bobg said:
So true, we have had some great centres over the years and those two are right up there.
Yes Bob, with Ian Wright and Eric Bell.
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10 minutes ago, Onreport said:
Even Ken needed a Paddy to open gaps for him
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2 hours ago, Brookie said:
He's like Lord Lucan
Nah, he’s not as bad as our original Lord Lucan, that centre from Oldham called Mark Lord, a mate of Ray Ashton.
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3 hours ago, EggFace said:
So Cumbria is a bit like the Scottish Borders in Rugby Union and the Welsh Valleys....Limbo clubs.
Are you trying to be offensive, comparing Cumbrian RL fans to the maggots from rugger union?
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1 hour ago, GUBRATS said:
I understand the sentiment , but it still gave them the money to invest in the infrastructure and expansion of the sport for a century
Yes indeed, by defrauding the Exchequer out of PAYE, NIC &VAT, which gave them the finance. And also by getting sponsors to “reward” their players.
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16 hours ago, GUBRATS said:
Football brew because it is the simplest game
Union grew because it was amateur
RL didn't grow because it was proffessional and the money went to the player's
When was rugger union ever amateur, ffs?
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2 hours ago, Wolford6 said:
We probably played against each other.
I was a centre in those days. I made up for my lack of speed by deploying my lack of a sidestep.
We quite possibly did Wolford6, I was an open side prop or loose forward ( ahead of my time, as I lost a lot of weight in my 3rd year!). I can recall one game at Bradford played in about 2 inches of snow, it was bitter mate.
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18 hours ago, Wolford6 said:
Fred Lindop used to coach Sheffield University RL in the 1970's. The referee's association must have sorted the coaching at UAU level, because we had Ian Brooke at Bradford. Both really nice blokes.
Liverpool were easily the best team and they had Mick Naughton as their coach. Stuffed us in the cup final at Fartown.
I recall playing for Lancaster Uni away at Sheffield Uni in 1973 or thereabouts. I hadn’t taken out my denture before going on the field, so looked around and saw Fred on the touch line and went over to ask him to keep it for me. “No problem” he said. When I got it back afterwards, I thanked him… then added “ mind you, whenever I’ve seen you referee up at Workington, you’ve been rubbish!” He just laughed, a proper gentleman!
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5 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said:
I don’t know tbh, I’m just floating it at this stage as a cup competition must be better than friendlies for the L1 clubs. I would completely exclude most of the clubs in the top section of the Championship anyway. I’m sure where there’s a will, there’s a way in terms of the fixture list.
Or, League 1 could just have its own cup competition??? Format to be decided.
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2 hours ago, Griff said:
Who did you date?
That’s red wine for you, Griff !
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Just now, Joe Aitcheson said:
You don’t know me so I’ll forgive your cynicism, but I’ve had 2 life bans from rugger union, first from daring to play rugger union over the age of 18 at uni in 1972 after enduring rugger at a grammar school…and secondly for becoming a director of my local pro RL club in 1982. Both times the rugger union had to rescind the bans, firstly to continue receiving Sports council grants in the mid 80s and secondly in 1995 when they stopped being shamateur and went openly professional. But I’ve never received an apology from “ twickers” so still consider myself banned, my proudest achievement in sport. So I’ve earned my views.
Sorry, I dated to play rugby league at uni, not the dark side
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1 hour ago, fighting irish said:
Please forgive my suspicion, if you're being sincere here, but I'm slightly concerned you are being sarcastic.
Please clarify your intentions here?
Do you believe I'm some kind of anti-union nutjob who revels in shouting anti-union spin at every opportunity and attempting to provoke me into an ''amusing'' outburst?
My comment was a heartfelt expression of my frustration, whenever I hear stories of Union clubs ''hosting'' Rugby League games (in order to help their cash flow through the Summer months) and that being interpreted as some kind of softening of attitudes towards our game amongst the Rugby Union hierarchy.
In truth, they fear our game more than ever and will do anything they can to impede our progress and development.
I'll eat my hat, if any RaRa club ''hosts'' a rugby league match without receiving a finger-wagging letter from the powers that be.
I know it happens, because it happened to me and it was only the existence of a whistleblower (who couldn't stomach their hypocracy) that made me aware of it.
Does anyone (in our community) really believe they would welcome (and support) the development of our game, their biggest and most terrifying rival for the public's consciousness? Really?
Any real development in such a scenario, any signs of burgeoning popularity in the locality will become hampered by greater and greater and more varied stumbling blocks until the club (if sufficiently motivated and talented) have to find alternative accommodation.
Far more likely, the club will fold.
Let me sum up. If anyone out there is thinking of setting up a Rugby League club, don't turn to them for succour, (it's a myth, a deception, it does not exist) any illusion of tolerance is merely an attempt to achieve control.
I would advise you to ''do it yourself'', independent of any involvement with RaRa. It might be harder at the beginning but your growth will be uninhibited and you will truly mature in far less time.
You don’t know me so I’ll forgive your cynicism, but I’ve had 2 life bans from rugger union, first from daring to play rugger union over the age of 18 at uni in 1972 after enduring rugger at a grammar school…and secondly for becoming a director of my local pro RL club in 1982. Both times the rugger union had to rescind the bans, firstly to continue receiving Sports council grants in the mid 80s and secondly in 1995 when they stopped being shamateur and went openly professional. But I’ve never received an apology from “ twickers” so still consider myself banned, my proudest achievement in sport. So I’ve earned my views.
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1 hour ago, fighting irish said:
No, it never changes but we keep falling for it.
We do Irish, but we shouldn’t. We should raise merry hell at each and every perceived slight.
Midlands Hurricanes
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Spot on Robert, though we are so naive in not lying on in the tackle as long as the opposition.