dealwithit
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5k seater not max capacity.
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Couple quick observations:
1. Regional academies should be run by the RFL
2. Broncos will pick up IMG points for increased crowds, viewing numbers and revenue from their 2024 season. Probably not enough to stay up.
3. Most supported P&L with minimum standards ie. junior pathways, decent stadium, etc. Few thought the IMG gradings would be what they are: a way to nail in the existing SL clubs.
4. 2024 marks another missed opportunity in the narrative of RL.
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Looking at ticket map I’d be saying 14k for St Helens match.
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I’ve had another look through the scoring and I have Toulouse ahead of Wakey, Cas and Salford.
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London need additions. But they won’t lose the likes of Parata just because he needs to be a FT player. He has a successful project management company. The broncos have said they’ll accommodate players as best they can. Living in London, it would be no surprise for some of their squad to earn far more from non-SL income.
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1 minute ago, Rovers13 said:
Toulouse are in a financial mess now they haven’t gone up according to reports.
They just released a statement detailing their financial strength and that a younger owner with deeper pockets is to take over
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Just now, Rovers13 said:
I’d be amazingly surprised if the 12 clubs are not the usual 11 plus wakey I’d get drunk if I’m wrong to celebrate
If it’s the same 11 plus wakey I’ll book you a flight to aus to get drunk with me
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1 minute ago, Rovers13 said:
Marketing, crowds, financially, social media sponsors etc etc.
financially? Toulouse have deeper pockets than wakey and cas. They will score higher for non-central finance.
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Just now, Rovers13 said:
On field performance too.
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Yeah but performance category alone is only 0.1111 lower for Toulouse.
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1 minute ago, Rovers13 said:
I don’t agree with it because it could have been us or Toulouse etc but us 2 clubs would have experienced same thing too.
Are you sure Toulouse will rank lower than cas, wakey?
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Best David Hughes starts bussing in film extras to watch them play.
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Thing is, there’s only 25 points up for grabs. For B grade clubs, it’s likely gonna come down to tenths of a decimal.
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Guys, I have terrible confirmation bias. I desperately want to believe that IMG and RFL weren’t stupid enough to admit a team in ‘24, give them millions and then punt them.
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Just now, Archie Gordon said:
Just to note: London don't get maximum points on 'catchment'. Merton isn't that big.
Yeah but your catchment Is reduced for every pro team within a radius. Cas, wakey, fev will suffer there.
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2 minutes ago, Rovers13 said:
If London are in top 16 clubs let alone close to c@s I will eat my shorts tbh lol.
Owner investment, catchment, academy, Stadium, etc. will probably score higher than some current SL clubs. Digital, no idea. Solvency, no idea. Performance in 2024 will have quite an impact.
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2 minutes ago, The Future is League said:
Rumour or fact?
Announced by broncos
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Just now, The Future is League said:
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Hull (kr?) academy
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Based on what is known, I don’t have London very far behind Castleford. A lot will actually depend on League standings at end of season.
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Has anyone had a go at prelim point scoring? Perhaps based on a handful of public data?
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6 hours ago, Toby Chopra said:
That's what people originally assumed, but it was clarified it is being done on overall grading score. A's plus the top scoring B's will make up Superleague, regardless of where they finish. That's why some of the Championship clubs voted against.
Well that contradicts comms from IMG. Do you have an article or press release you could share?
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5 hours ago, The Phantom Horseman said:
What do you mean "if they aren't relegated in 2024"? Their place in SL in 2025, like everyone else, will depend on whether they have one of the top 12 IMG scores.
No that’s not how it’s working. They’re not ranking every single club in order. They’re giving A, B and C grades. If you’re grade A you’ll be in SL. If you’re grade B and you finish bottom of SL you could be relegated if the championship winner is graded B too.
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Any idea who was halfback in their game against Serbia?
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On 12/10/2023 at 18:46, Toby Chopra said:
The detailed scoring criteria have been published and most of them are things that are either in the public domain or we can make a very accurate stab at. We can work it out with 90% accuracy, and unless London do a Leigh in SL and Wakey crash and burn in the Championship it's almost impossible for them to stay up.
https://www.rugby-league.com/uploads/docs/Grading Handbook (Final Version).pdf
I’ve had a read and done some calculations. The part missing (or I’m blind) is the thresholds for Category A, B and C. Is this know?
scratch that. This article says 7.5 for B and 15 for A
That means London will probably be category B. If they aren’t relegated in 2024, hard to see them being punted for a category A team. There will be other B teams in SL.
London Broncos 2024
in The General Rugby League Forum
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Yeah good point. But the weighting on League position, tv ratings and crowds is substantial and any B grade club in championship will do it tough cracking the bottom SL clubs from ‘25 onwards — even if they produce players, are based in strategically important areas or have huge potential. If you’re not in SL you’re not on tv and you’re not attracting bigger crowds. Hard to compete.