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  1. 4 hours ago, DEANO said:

    Another example is if I was a plumber working for a firm and the gaffer said to me I’ve no work for you this week cos I’ve brought somebody in from another firm I’d be ###### off

    Thats why on paper the DR system can work if used smartly and correctly. If you are running a 21/22 man squad due to budget constraints and you know you are struggling in a certain position due to injury/fatigue/suspension you can bring someone in to plug the gap. Most teams including York have used this effectively. I personally would rather have a DR player for 2 weeks than take a squad of 16 to 2 games but not for everyone. 

  2. On 20/09/2020 at 11:25, DEANO said:

    James Ford linked with Huddersfield 

    Luke Robinson odds on favourite to take the job. He has been in the setup as a player and coach and knows Huddersfield which helps. I said it before when Fordy was linked to Hull KR he hasnt ever coached in the Super League or coached a full time team. He is undoubtedly a talent but would always be a gamble to a Super League side. If he was going to take a job in Super League Fordy would be better having a setup similar to Wakey did a few season ago with Chris Chester as Head Coach and assistant/mentor John Kear. 

  3. DR on paper works as it gives players opportunities to play and clubs to fill gaps as and when they need it, it works for FT to PT clubs. On paper if you were a full time plumber and weren't getting any work and you were put on the emergency plumbers list (Dual reg) then you would take a job if offered. If no DR next season it has to be replaced with a sensible loan alternative or reserves championship, to develop the talent in this country. Fringe players can't be risked due to the usual threat of relegation. Another example is Batch at Saints doesn't usually get a look in but you can't blame them as Saints aren't going to drop an international over him yet. 

  4. 22 hours ago, latchford albion said:

    As Deano would no doubt agree, people in North Yorkshire don't want RL.  Sorry but true. The club have been going since 1868: do you not think it would have happened by now if it was ever going to happen?  Just being realistic.

     

    Seriously, York over the last couple of years have been a real success story and came closer to beating Cats in the 2018 Challenge Cup than Warrington did.  I hope they continue to progress.

    I will have what he's smoking. The people that travel to York & other clubs from all over North Yorkshire wouldnt agree there. The community game is at its biggest and growing in participation. Harrogate RL is back too. 

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  5. To those slight doubters out there I believe this time we have it right. There is definitely a true community in York now with everyone pointing in the same direction. The Elite player system with local clubs is starting to produce players too and retention of the young developing players which has been second story to the super league additions will be massive. Atkins and Co might get the headlines but Bass and Teanby will be just as important. 

    On additional Income streams too which haven't happened for a while from the stadium, food and drink itself on match days (nothing from Bootham Crescent) will help on top of commercial rents from businesses already operating inside the stadium. The fan base is very interactive and the World Cup will only add to profile of the city. New Zealand mens and womens and Aussie womens are based in York along with France and Cook Islands womens. Along with the games too the future is looking bright but this is just the start. 

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  6. On 18/09/2020 at 18:46, GUBRATS said:

    Are all those teams full time ? 

    They are however it doesn't harm in looking at how they operate and seeing if it could work for us. The current format isn't fit for fans that genuinely want to follow their team to every game. I don't know many people that can afford to watch their teams in Canada (potential for 2 trips) and New York and also a French trip too. Amongst Summer Bash, a £160ish home ticket (for 1) and £20 ish away tickets plus travel too most away games. Now is the time to evaluate the structure and see if its fit for purpose. You probably have 3 seasons before the new teams are in the league and with most or ours being part time how would the players be able to cope with that type of travel. 

  7. 22 hours ago, Tommygilf said:

    So being generous for 1000 away fans at 25 quid each bought through the away club shop its worth £5000?

    That's how it was sold to us as away fan's from York. In 2019 buy the tickets through York and they would get a % of ticket prices. I am not 100% sure what happens if they just buy what they need or if the commit to so many tickets. 

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  8. 1 minute ago, HarrogateKnights said:

    Personally I would merge the 2 divisions of Championship and League 1 and based on a ranking system have a new restructure of what will then be 4 divisions of 7 teams in each home and away with playoffs from winner of each pool. I would have one of the overseas teams in each pool. You play 6 home and away could easily have the 1895 Cup seeded locally in earlier rounds to keep the interest. 

    Even though I am not a massive fan of Union, Pro 14 are making that work with 2 conferences with teams from South Africa, Italy, Scotland, Wales and Ireland. I think some lessons could be learnt 

  9. 14 hours ago, GUBRATS said:

    So start at Easter and end when ?

    How many games are you suggesting they play ?

    Personally I would merge the 2 divisions of Championship and League 1 and based on a ranking system have a new restructure of what will then be 4 divisions of 7 teams in each home and away with playoffs from winner of each pool. I would have of the overseas teams in each pool. You play 6 home and away could easily have the 1895 Cup seeded locally in earlier rounds to keep the interest. 

  10. 11 minutes ago, JM2010 said:

    I've thought something similar but would regionalise it a couple of leagues down. Maybe have a Yorkshire Premier and 1 then regional. Would probably have the same as you but Bradford, Huddersfield and Halifax would be grouped together

    Yeah that makes sense I suppose Yorkshire Premier is at a decent standard. I definitely think more could be done for "social" full contact players. There is a big drive on non contact however with the full contact you have players and teams willing to play but definitely could make it easier for people and potentially easier on player recruitment 

  11. I suppose never going to be number 1 priority or top of the agenda but talking Yorkshire Mens (and possibly Yorkshire Juniors) Currently as a player you could be playing all over Yorkshire and even Nottinghamshire. For players that are more on the social playing side of the spectrum would it make sense in restructuring the divisions in the Yorkshire mens keeping the NCL for your "elite amateur players". My idea is to divide the divisions more city wide to cut down on travel times and individual cost. With 5 section divisions which could contain more than one league, with the potential If you want to have playoffs for an overall Yorkshire mens champion. 

    Bradford & District 

    Central & East Yorkshire (York, Selby, Hull etc) 

    Leeds & District 

    Huddersfield & District

    Wakefield & District and South Yorkshire 

    This way the travel time is reduced, the season could be shortened if needed and as a player rather than alot of travel journey times are shortened. It would be interesting to hear from people especially those playing or have played under the current structure. 

  12. 2 hours ago, Hela Wigmen said:

    There’s no way Super League clubs would vote to relegate a third of its clubs. There’s also very few people (if any at all) who want to see teams play each other 3/4 times a season in the league either. 

    I definitely wouldn't want to play each other 3/4 times a season but as a championship fan I would rather we started Easter weekend in Mid march/April than 1st weekend of February. Personally I think the season needs to be shorter or better organised out of the top flight even if that means 1 division but divided for less travelling I would be in favour. Before the entrance of Ottawa and New York things have to be sorted otherwise realistically if things went a set way with P&Rs you could have 3 Cumbrian teams, Toronto, New York, Ottawa, London and Toulouse in the 2nd tier in 3 years. That's more than half of the teams in the league! I am in favour of expansion but that's taking it too far! Where Super League would be M62 corridor plus Catalans 

  13. Regarding cost for a player for TTR the standard shorts are £13 you can get other ones that are designed with a particular comp like Yorkshire or London etc too. It's approx £5 a session paid up front in bulk so £50 per player for 10 sessions which can seem a little pricey if like some do play in multiple leagues. A pack of tags are £45 (covered by the league). But to be apart of TTR you would need a franchise and that is the part that put me off. When thinking minimum contact, I thought about the options and I thought about setting up a league in Harrogate but the risk of the business and facilities costs on top. It might have worked if I could draw the corporate market to Harrogate potentially. 

     https://trytagrugby.com/yorkshire/franchise/

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  14. On the topic of minimum contact versions of RL. X-league is making its debut in Harrogate tonight, with a coaching and playing session. Under Harrogate Fire Ants, we our leasing our own 3G cage pitch for the hour long session. We are one of 2 teams in North Yorkshire (the other being York City Knights foundation) , interestingly thus far no team in West Yorkshire, so plenty of development work to be done 

  15. 3 hours ago, The Rocket said:

    Couple of things I wanted to clarify please.

    Is X-League the same or similar as what Pedant described as `Ladies League Tag` ( I am not casting aspersions) which is played in NSW  involving:

    *   full sized field;

    *   11 a side;

    *   goal kicking;

    *   RL scoring system;

    *   no restrictions on kicking in general play;

    Like what you said about X-League, Tackle RL without the tackle.

    The reason that I ask these questions is because I am trying to clarify in my own mind that if a non-contact version of the game was introduced into the RLWC which would be the best version. I do like the sound of the above model, 11 players would open up the field a little, yet being played on a full sized field, I think would look great, especially if you consider the type of athletes it would attract.

    As you said it would be like tackle but without the tackle, and I think that is what we should aim for.

    Second Question. The `try tag rugby` is affiliated to RLF development? I am a bit confused with that , because I keep on hearing that all these competitions are mostly associated with union, to the point where Pedant said that the next TryTag Rugby WC held in Ireland will be all about union with League not even getting a mention. Is this why you have formed X-League? to wrest back this form of the code to League, where it rightfully belongs.  

    Thank You.

     

     

     

     

    https://www.rugby-league.com/get_involved/play Also regarding Try Tag Rugby on the RFL website TTR falls under the play section along with X-league and the full contact versions 

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  16. 1 hour ago, The Rocket said:

    Couple of things I wanted to clarify please.

    Is X-League the same or similar as what Pedant described as `Ladies League Tag` ( I am not casting aspersions) which is played in NSW  involving:

    *   full sized field;

    *   11 a side;

    *   goal kicking;

    *   RL scoring system;

    *   no restrictions on kicking in general play;

    Like what you said about X-League, Tackle RL without the tackle.

    The reason that I ask these questions is because I am trying to clarify in my own mind that if a non-contact version of the game was introduced into the RLWC which would be the best version. I do like the sound of the above model, 11 players would open up the field a little, yet being played on a full sized field, I think would look great, especially if you consider the type of athletes it would attract.

    As you said it would be like tackle but without the tackle, and I think that is what we should aim for.

    Second Question. The `try tag rugby` is affiliated to RLF development? I am a bit confused with that , because I keep on hearing that all these competitions are mostly associated with union, to the point where Pedant said that the next TryTag Rugby WC held in Ireland will be all about union with League not even getting a mention. Is this why you have formed X-League? to wrest back this form of the code to League, where it rightfully belongs.  

    Thank You.

     

     

     

     

    Hi mate, 

    Euro tag was its previous guise. They are promoting it as 60x40 metre field anything from 6-11 a side. As mentioned above X-league is a touch tackle on the ball. Fending off is allowed 

     

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