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9 minutes ago, Leonard said:
Eyeball test is maybe 1,200 average.
Something to work on.
If that's close to true, then proportionally that s solid progress on two or three years back I think
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One thing is, at pretty much any given point in the season nearly every squad can rightly say that they have key players injured. That`s the nature of such physical sport. For sure there is luck in who gets the most key players injured, but it´s not always easy to judge who has been the "unluckier" with injuries because so many players get injured during the course of a season.
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1 minute ago, Fevrover said:
It would but its never going to happen the fans just aren't interested enough to attend in significant numbers.
Very true, this has to be worked on yeah? Or do we just throw the towel in as a sport. You got any idea of the crowd today Fev?
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It would be great for the sport to have decent teams in both Sheffield and London. I would have liked a close game regardless of who won. What was the crowd like (at the beginning) please? Attendances often don´t seem to make it into the attendance thread.
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Nothing at all against Doncaster, but come on the Cru! Would be great for the sport to have a Welsh presence back in the second tier. Pob lwc Crusaders!!!
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On 18/09/2023 at 21:27, OriginalMrC said:
RL is popular in Fiji but union (especially 7s) is still the no. 1 sport. I think they've been semi finalists 3 times in the union World Cup and 3 times in RL. I can see RL becoming more popular especially if there are more and more Fijians in the NRL
They've never once been semi finalists in the union world cup fyi .. edit, jumped in before seeing above reply sorry
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11 minutes ago, Rapscallion said:
While you’re factually correct in what you say about clubs joining and leaving the professional ranks, they were admitted without a plan or strategy so set up to fail from the beginning, really.
Yes and no I would say. Back in the day London had half decent crowds but this wasn't built on in the way that successful expansion teams manage to do. Similar probably in North Wales where crowds declined over time I believe. So yes, the planning and strategy wasn't great, but at times there was interest that could have been exploited. Toronto different kettle of fish, loads of interest generated there and here but most of the clubs voted for what they perceived was best in the short term, lack of vision in my opinion
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10 hours ago, Tre Cool said:
Biggest pro sports club in NZ is an RL club. French club in SL top 3. Tonga,Fiji and Samoa reaching test quality. Toulouse, Broncos doing well. Cornwall getting good crowds and winning matches. Hardly contracting rapidly. A couple of very weak 'pro' clubs dropping out of the pro leagues is hardly RL 'contracting rapidly'.
I take your point and, yes, for sure there are positives. But in the ten odd years I have been watching SL has lost its Welsh team, it's London team, gained and lost its Canadian team and further down we've lost Hemel, Oxford, Gloucester etc. I would argue that with the significant drop in crowds over that time that Broncos are not doing well, certainly their fans on here say not. Pacific island nations have lot of heritage players and little domestic action as far as I can tell, though I hope that it is increasing and would like to be corrected
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Very sad. RL - going strongly against the grain. Other sports around the world expanding into new countries and areas. RL, contracting rapidly and increasingly disappearing from sight.
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6 hours ago, Hello said:
If you're referring to my comment then there's nothing xenophobic about me. I live in Spain and am teaching myself Spanish and have friends from Germany, US, Argentina, Italy and other countries that I socialise with. iF you are referring to my comment then I can't understand what is xenophobic about wanting to have countries that have international teams at least having some sort of domestic participation. I don't mind SOME heritage players, of course, it just becomes farcical when there are hardly any players living in the country that they are representing at a world cup. I want us to give support to nations to expand domestically and kudos to the likes of Greece for trying to do so.
Sorry eal, please accept my apologies. I didn't mean to quote you in this reply, I was trying to reply to another post that seems to have dissappeared.
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12 hours ago, eal said:
Xenophobia?! Australians are the persecuted minority I guess?!
If you're referring to my comment then there's nothing xenophobic about me. I live in Spain and am teaching myself Spanish and have friends from Germany, US, Argentina, Italy and other countries that I socialise with. iF you are referring to my comment then I can't understand what is xenophobic about wanting to have countries that have international teams at least having some sort of domestic participation. I don't mind SOME heritage players, of course, it just becomes farcical when there are hardly any players living in the country that they are representing at a world cup. I want us to give support to nations to expand domestically and kudos to the likes of Greece for trying to do so.
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I've got a proven track record on these forums of supporting the expansion of RL, please check out my posts, but there's some serious delusion on this thread in comparing RL international heritage teams, of which there are many who have basically little to no domestic game, with the other international sports that I've seen mentioned here who may have SOME but far from all foreign born players. Please don't peddle this nonsense, get a grip and try any find what we can do to actually develop RL beyond having 15 grandchildren playing for their grandparents place of birth. Maybe take a leaf out of the book of the minor European nations who are fighting to arrange internationals amongst themselves with little to no help from the IRL. Peace
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1 hour ago, GeordieSaint said:
To be fair that ignores all of the other matches, selective
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On 15/08/2023 at 00:16, Harry Stottle said:
Which clubs do you have in mind.
Perhaps a 6 team format playing each other 5 times a season would help.
On 29/08/2023 at 20:52, Anita Bath said:Its a simple game which has tended to avoid tinkering with laws of the game too much and keeps the same structure. Fans get familiar with the divisions and cups and generally know whats going on.
Rugby league changes laws and structures continually, often at short notice.
I think there must be a standing item on the agenda of RFL meetings….what shall we change this week.
With respect, football tinkers also. I feel that much of the issue for RL's lack of popularity is self-inflicted with a lot of resistance and fear of letting anyone new in on the secret
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6 hours ago, welshmagpie said:
Big lads and a far better standard than I was expecting! Credit to both teams.
You can see that both nations are benefitting from regular and consistent competition at domestic level.
Yeah, just watched about a quarter of an hour of it myself. I was surprised by the standard of play also to be fair.
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1 hour ago, Damien said:
Whose this we because the RFL are doing nothing to grow RL in Ireland or Scotland.
Fair point. Also, you should never ever " drop all efforts" , you can always at least chat at no cost to a stranger at a bar somewhere about the sport and try and persuade them to watch a game.
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On 17/08/2023 at 12:02, gogledd said:
We're in a spell of not playing since our win against Doncaster, but obviously I'll be going to Rochdale to support Oldham and home we cling onto our 6th place! That will be a battle royal I expect!
Winners: Doncaster, Hunslet and Oldham....
For those whove been following our nomadic existence this season, we should be playing at Eirias Park next weekend - as RGC, the union side, will have already played twice on the new pitch. Amazing how it all came together for them to play there first!
So frustrating how the Crusaders have been messed around with grounds. How have crowds held up? Any gossip on what might happen next season with the home games? I live in Aberystwyth in the summer and would like to get to a game some time, but I'm put off by the feeling of chaos and lack of progress to be honest. It would be great for the sport to see the Crusaders get promoted berfore long and have a Welsh team on the up, helping to break up the small footprint of the sport.
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12 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:
Which clubs do you have in mind.
Perhaps a 6 team format playing each other 5 times a season would help.
Anyway, hope you enjoyed your day and congratulations
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7 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:
I fully understand that Sky's audience for RL will be relatively small, but it will remain so as long as they wish to keep it a secret and choose not to market it properly.
Totally agree get Sky's exclusivity rescinded unless they want to pay for it, but will the RL/IMG have big enough dangly bits to excersize that option if maintaining exclusivity is the best deal on the table?
It's not Sky who want to keep the sport a minority secret though, is it, they're all about making money obviously. They would gladly rake in the cash if it was allowed to properly expand and not be held back by the resistance of a lot of the fans and clubs who just want to be a big fish in a small pond. TV deals declining all the time, you reap what you sow
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59 minutes ago, Eddie said:
It was a great evening in Wymondham today as the Vipers played local Union side Beccles under the lights in a rugby league friendly ahead of next Saturday’s East RL grand final. A crowd of over 150 gathered to see the Vipers win 58-28, but the score didn’t matter as some great rugby was played and the Beccles lads had a good first experience of rugby league. Hopefully some of them will want to play league next summer now they’ve had a taste of it.
Nice one Eddie, that's the spirit. Expansion is not impossible as some here like to say, best of luck to the continuing efforts down there, 150 + is decent - from a small seed a great oak can be grown.
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On 05/08/2023 at 21:37, Bedfordshire Bronco said:
And that's fair enough .....I actually don't know what the overall effect on subscribers is by having Catalan
And I don't think anyone does know the effect of swapping Catalan for say Bradford in SL on SKY RL subscribers
I'd love to see some evidence
That's a reasonable question, to be fair. I think that Bradford are badly missed, but - all I can I say is my own personal experience which is that when I started watching SL roughly 10 years ago I was drawn in by seeing the Celtic Crusaders in Wales as they were at the time, in Wrexham, and London Broncos who were also at the time in SL, as well as Catalans who are still there, because of the variety that they provided on top of the heartlands clubs. I think that this is normal in inspiring people's interest in any sport. i, like many others. was then further excited by seeing Toronto join the system with the ensuing exposure that that sparked across the general media in the sport in a new country who enthusiastically embrace the game. What's happened since is....................
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5 minutes ago, Jughead said:
Superten always seems to keep us posted with his one man crusade for a system that’s thoroughly disliked and not really wanted coincidentally just as kids break up for school.
I THINK that he's a WUM, and a pretty good one at that.
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5 hours ago, RP London said:
problem is there is arguably nothing to "market" or find funding for (and not a lot of funding streams available anyway), we were told this by SKY with a "sort it out" etched on the last TV deal. What they are trying to create is something that can then be worked on in the way you are looking for, but you have to build the product before you can market it.
Again, whether this is the right way or not only time will tell, but there arent many other ideas out there to try and solve this continued issue
Can't disagree that it is a tricky conundrum, fer sure..... Just feels that other sports have largely done it better. There is no silver bullet...
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To be honest I have reservations about using this whole points based system for determing which division/league teams play in. My natural instinct is P and R to give everyone the opportunity and therefore incentive to further themselves. I think that I would rather that IMG would just stick to this simple to understand and fair system, and concentrate their efforts on marketing and trying to find fuding to support the game in existing and new areas to help overall growth. That's what I think that most of us were hoping for from them.
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When is an excuse not an excuse?
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