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Ray Cashmere

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  1. 2 hours ago, ShropshireBull said:


    2 hours ago, ShropshireBull said:

    And yes, if you put a monkey in charge of PSG, PSG are going to win the league 99 times out of a hundred.


    1. Comparisons between the Premier League and Super League on this forum are always bemusing but I think this may be a new winner. One sport is salary capped, the other isn't. One sport has ownership structures ranging from multi-millionaire business people to sovereign wealth funds, the other has ownership structures consisting of 'local boy done good' to varying extents.


    2. PSG are going to win Ligue 1 99 times out of 100 (apart from the 2 seasons in the last 5 years when PSG didn't win Ligue 1). Even in the football's distorted landscape, teams can punch above their weight and teams can punch below their weight.


    None of this is to say we are currently competing on a level playing field with other clubs. Of course we aren't. But I'd take a Category 1 Academy and retention of all matchday revenue streams over another Koukash.


    This black and white argument that, in a sport where 3 or 4 clubs are actually spending the full cap with 2 marquees, the financial disparity in Super League renders coaching immaterial is quite baffling. 

    Coaches matter. Recruitment decisions matter. The culture in a squad matters. Injuries and form matter. Super League is not played on a Balance sheet. If it was, Wire might have won Super League by now...



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  2. 4 minutes ago, OriginalMrC said:

    This isn't just a rebrand for the sake of it, hence the Coventry Bears branding being changed. There'll be a lot of other changes with further announcements to come once details finalised. 

    That's good news. I'm looking forward to these announcements and really hope you succeed.

    Do you not worry about the identity of the club though? You'll know more than me as I only studied in the Midlands but I never got the sense there was a Midlands 'identity'. I just hope that doesn't affect support and enthusiasm for the Hurricanes. 

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  3. 4 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

    They should be asked if there's an agreement in place for them to play at a fictitious stadium?

    It is name checked in the press releases. Obviously it has not been built yet and still appears to be seeking the required funding.

    That is the whole point of asking these questions. It is Eric Perez and the RFL's job to do the due diligence/business plan, not mine. 

  4. Transparency is going to be key if this is to get the buy in from fellow League 1 clubs/ the wider rugby league community.


    Is an agreement in place for the club to move into Stadium for Cornwall upon its completion?

    What is the club's plans for grassroots and junior rugby league in the region?

    What discussions have taken place with key regional stakeholders (Cornish Pirates, Cornwall Council, Exeter Uni etc)? 

    What is the strategy for player recruitment? Local union players, existing League 1 players, mixture of both? 


    I'd love this to work but, for it to, the RFL must have done their due diligence and be able to present a business case to more sceptical members.

  5. The fact the RFL Board seem to have approved this without consultation is madness.

    If it was part of a strategy to develop the sport in the wider south west region with All Golds/Gloucester/Bristol then I could see the thinking but as it stands I'm quite baffled to be honest (and that is as an expansionist).

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  6. I largely agree but the other stadia aren't a negotiating tactic, Paul King himself has called them a 'last resort'. That doesn't mean they are unviable, but obviously the Salford Red Devils playing out of East Manchester is not preferable.

    Of course economically we have no leverage, but politically we do. Gary Neville isn't going to want to be the local(ish) lad who shafted a community club, especially if he is considering running for GM Mayor in 2024. It wouldn't do much good for Paul Dennett's socialist credentials either...

    Money talks at the end of the day but we do have levers we can pull to try and get the best result possible.


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  7. 7 minutes ago, Whippet13 said:

    Moore Lane or nowhere isnt it? Might be a small ground but it's infinitely better than being homeless for decades like Swinton, hope it works out for you lot.

    Nope. Other stadia have been mentioned (I think the Etihad Campus was one) but that would require a relocation to Manchester and is clearly not the preferred option.

    I agree with your previous post that this is likely a negotiating tactic though. The current board have earnt the right to be trusted based on their track record so I'll reserve judgement on anything until there are some material developments. 

  8. 33 minutes ago, Whippet13 said:

    Still a lot of unknowns from Salford about Moor Lane apparently, although they could simply be trying to negotiate some improvements to the ground:


    We'll find out more at the fans forum but I trust the current board to get the right deal and make the right decision. 

    Whether that be Moor Lane or elsewhere. I get other fans will have their tuppence but we are moving (slowly) in the right direction as a club.

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  9. 3 hours ago, The Daddy said:

    That's my view on it. Give it to the locals first, establish it and then the season after take it on the road. This seems like too much too soon

    In theory that is great but the reality is TO are one of the favourites for relegation and will be for the next couple of years.


    (and yes, the idea that we'd throw away this opportunity because of P/R is ridiculous but we are where we are)  

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  10. 29 minutes ago, Lowdesert said:

    I don’t think it’s a case of the quality but more the availability.  Very few headline props available anywhere that’s why I mentioned Moran earlier. Mulally has been playing with Carcassonne, has SL experience.  Could be that the plan is to look at these and any others as the season unfolds but this is the problem promoted teams have.

    I agree, there is obviously a dearth of players for any promoted club. I do think TO potentially have an advantage over previous relegated clubs insofar as there are a lot of Super League standard French players who are just on the periphery at Catalans. 

    There are still some very good options from the NRL dependent on quota spots and their ambition. Edrick Lee & Dunamis Lui would both be great signings if they could pull them off. Obviously, neither of those two may be interested but options do exist as limited as they are.  

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  11. 1 minute ago, Tabby said:

    But in hindsight, surely contracts are holding recruitment back. They will all count on the cap next season. Retention is confirmed via having players still contracted for next season.

    The message seemed to be they weren't planning on spending the full cap next season (might not be true).

    Quota spots are another issue as I'm not sure how many (if any) they still have available

  12. 2 minutes ago, Tabby said:

    How many players are still currently contracted?

    I'm not aware of them releasing a retention list but, from everything I've read, their intention seems to be to stick with what they have with the addition of 3/4 players.

    From what I've seen, they do have several player who I'd be very confident will be able to make the transition to Super League: Kheirallah, Sangare, Pelissier, Schaumkel. They obviously have good Super League experience in Navarette, Gigot and Peyroux and others who definitely *could* be good enough in Bretherton, Jussaume etc.

    I'm airing on the side of pessimism because I do really want to see TO consolidate themselves as a Super League club. Obviously there's still time and their existing crop may well be good enough as it is. I just think it'd be a huge disappointment if they go straight back down and everyone will be pointing at their recruitment in hindsight. 

  13. TACKLE IT Academy offers Rugby League pathway to players from minority ethnic backgrounds (rugby-league.com)

    It's great to see the RFL showing some initiative and focusing on increasing representation and player pathways for minority groups. Given the sport's history we should be doing a lot better than we currently are in this regard.

    Hopefully the details announced above are just the first iteration of the scheme but I would like to see it both expanded geographically and partnered with a college/university as quickly as possible.  It really should be targeting youngsters in inner city Manchester, Leeds, London (as well as elsewhere) who are outside of our traditional catchment area. There's also the opportunity to give young athletes released from other elite sports pathways the opportunity to see if they have what it takes to transfer their skills to rugby league. 

    The more pathways we have the better for Super League and our national team (if they ever get a consistent international calendar).


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  14. Agree that TO definitely need to be looking for more if they are to stay up next season. That doesn't necessarily mean a load of big NRL/SL names as London showed a few years ago but all the signings thus far only appear to be adding depth.

    I really hope they aren't underestimating the gulf between the Championship and Super League.

  15. 9 minutes ago, Mattrhino said:

    Players are also renowned for their heavy drinking, abusing prescription pain medication and Street brawls. Would this not be brought up in a court case

    Bobbie Goulding for instance has admitted he abused alcohol, cocaine and prescription drugs. He even lost consciousness when he wrapped his car round a tree while drink driving. He has also been in trouble for street fighting. How someone like Bobbie Goulding could link his unfortunate dementia to RL is laughable.

    Yes, one way or another it would be.

  16. 1 hour ago, Wakefield Ram said:

    It will probably not reach the courts. The insurers will have the choice of settling or risk as you say a very expensive court case (2 sets of legal costs) and a large settlement. There's investment funds which fund class actions (in return for % of damages) the solicitors might be taking no win no fee approach and the players might have to part fund or a combination 

    With a combined RU/RL ex-players suit and next to no defence "you didn't think that a player suffering repeated blows to the head and concussions would have any effect on his brain?" and potentially tens if not hundreds of millions in possible compensation, then they wouldn't have taken it this far if they didn't think they've a very good chance.

    All they have to prove is that a cohort of ex-players in their 40s/50s has a higher % of dementia against a same cohort of non-players and do some brain scans to show the damage and that's pretty much game over.

    Think they'd be no shortage of brain experts happy to state that repeated concussions and blows to the head can contribute to dementia. I doubt they'll find many experts to would testify that repeated blows to the head has no effect on the brain.

    The RFL insurers will have re-insured the risk, so some of their losses will be offset. 

    They can negotiate a settlement (known amount) or fight it and risk millions in legal costs plus an unknown amount of damages which could be even higher (unknown amount but almost certain to be higher because of costs). 


    Without wanting to get into the legal technicalities of it that is just simply untrue...


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  17. On 27/10/2021 at 09:47, Death to the Rah Rah's said:

    as awful as this is, and I feel genuinely sorry for Bobby or anyone else who contracts dementia but how does anyone prove this is as a result of playing rugby league, or any sport for that matter and not just back luck!

    What about the millions of ex-football, RU and RL players worldwide who haven't had any adverse effects of playing sport.

    If claims like this are successful then that's the end of all contact sport as the usual 'no win no fee' floodgates will open and every person who has ever played sport will be lodging claims against the governing body, BARLA, or worse still community clubs and their officials

    This is one of several reasons why I would question the potential merits of such a case.

    The NFL case is a bit of a red herring as it is a very different legal system in the U.S.

    It would take an awful lot for such a case to be successful here, not to mention a sizeable budget to fund the expert witnesses that would be needed. Are these ex-players crowd funding because I'd be surprised if they could afford such litigation otherwise?

  18. How many Super League clubs pay both the full cap and 2 marquees? Leeds, Catalans (subject to Pearce signing), Warrington, Saints (?), do Wigan even have both marquee slot filled right now?

    I don't think anyone is averse to SL players being paid more, especially those on the lowest salaries, but the fact is most of our clubs can't even pay the current cap and that is the biggest problem. 

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  19. 14 hours ago, yipyee said:

    Just leave the SH be. Stop obsessing with Australia. 

    England vs France and maybe Wales is the growth we need. SH touring teams should not be the basis of a NH international calender

    Where's the obsession? 

    We can't rely on the Southern Hemisphere for our international calendar hence the importance of playing France annually (as I and many others have already stated). That doesn't mean that I don't want to see England (and France) facing the best nations when the opportunity arises.

    No doubt you'll find another way to put words in my mouth...

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