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  1. On 16/04/2022 at 18:11, Martyn Sadler said:

    I talk to Lee Addison, a former Student Rugby League player and a one-time Wigan media manager who has made a career coaching grass roots Rugby League in Australia.

    Lee has some interesting observations on the state of the game in Australia.

    I could only watch the first 15 minutes before I was so worried about the game in Australia that I felt sick.

    He is a development man talking about the game in a Country far from home that has plenty of local commentators with vastly more experience than him and he is promoting the AFL propaganda bullcrap.

    Why is he given any airtime?

    Sorry Martyn the views versus Reponses says it all.


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  2. 13 hours ago, Mr Frisky said:

    Hes laughing (I would assume) because your trying to suggest that Tommo was the best prop in SL who is now struggling in the NRL... SL fans laugh because everyone knows they bought the wrong Saints Prop and paid him big money.....

    Hes marked because his English as the Aussies are usually scared of English forwards - Mozza, Ellis, Burgess Jammer etc - Tommo is playing well in a very poor team but as his English he always has to prove more than most others.

    You can see the fear in the Aussies eyes every time they play a Test match against us.

    No wonder they hardly ever win.

  3. 8 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

    As I say, I thought Young did some things well in the game at the weekend and some things poorly.  What he did well (carry the ball strongly) was backed up by his stats. 

    Why would anyone only be guided by stats, where is the enjoyment in that?  I am not guided by stats and I am not basing my assessment of his performance on the stats, I am basing my assessment on my viewing of the game and using the stats to back up my assessment.

    But you are a "Stats man" you quote them all the time to defend your opinion.

    Stats have their part to play but i have seen plenty of performances where the players "Stats" look ok but the player has contributed nothing to his teams result


  4. Davo,

    He was brought over as a Gun forward  to lead the Canterbury pack, one of the worst teams in the NRL.

    He has been on the Bench used as a sub and hardly led from the front in a team that is rock bottom

    Why are you laughing?

  5. 4 minutes ago, Saint Toppy said:

    I wouldn't say that, he's been the Dogs best forward since joining them (not saying much I know given how poor they've been), but within those games he's had a couple of outstanding performances, but he's also had a few completely anonymous ones as well.

    He was consistently one of Saints best for a few years but he seems not to be able to replicate that consistency in the NRL at the Dogs

    I hear what you are saying but not many Forwards are marked as game changers.

    Halves, Fullbacks, Hookers and possibly Centers get attention.

    I doubt many opposing Coaches have him "marked" as a game changer.

    Anonymous I would think

  6. On 02/04/2022 at 21:40, Dunbar said:

    Thanks for the advice.  But I did watch the game.  And funnily enough, the stats backed up my assessment of Young's performance. Funny how that works out.

    I once saw a game where a key player didn't do much at all but what he did do turned the game.

    Another example where a fringe player came on and turned a game like  Ray Stone a couple of weeks ago for Parramatta.

    Stats are great but only valuable in some cases in the context of the outcome.

    If I was only guided by stats I would give this game away, its about people and personalities and game day performances.

  7. 32 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

    I don't want to fall into the opposite trap and suggest everything that the Brits do is good.

    On yesterday's performance.


    Yes, a poorly executed attacking kick when there were better options.

    Didn't stick on a few tackles.

    Gave away a penalty and 10 in the bin for a driving tackle that went over the horizontal.


    3rd top metre maker for the Knights.

    Most post contact metres with several strong carries.

    The only line break for the Knights.

    Joint top of tackle breaks.

    No errors.


    I would say he was far from the worst of the Knights players in what was a disappointing overall display.

    You don't need to watch the game at all.

    Just base everything on the "Stats"


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  8. On 20/03/2022 at 23:45, Saint 1 said:

    Pretty shocking to find that players and coaches in an aggressive, collision sport use swear words in the heat of battle. Really. 

    I am sure they do.
    I swear all the time in the right places.

    Did this small time Doco need to show this?

    Made our game look like rough poor ignorant northerners IMO.

    Its what you don't show that makes a Doco good.

    Warts and all does our game no good in the general public except for a few Dinosaurs here.




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  9. 7 minutes ago, Gav Wilson said:

    Jonty's gonna give us his thoughts on this game in March 2024. His wife and kids weren't keen though.

    Gav, I had/have you down as a good guy on this Forum.

    Lets leave it here mate.

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  10. 1 minute ago, Mr Frisky said:

    What are you babbling on about?

    All I can see is you posting negative comments while there is a cracking game on C4 at the moment.

    Why are you watching this thread and posting silly emojis if there is a cracking game on C4?

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  11. 7 minutes ago, Gav Wilson said:

    Then I'd definitely give 'Tales From Tiger Town' on WatchNRL a miss then. And almost any other sports documentary out there.

    Apropos of nowt, but if I told my Wife we were sitting down with the kids (when we eventually have them) to watch a sports documentary, I feel I can already imagine her response... 🤣

    I don't know what you just posted to be honest.

  12. 1 minute ago, Mr Frisky said:

    We complain when RL doesn't have these types of documentary and we complain when we get one -ffs.

    The one I remember as being great was the 2006 Lions documentary of the 3 nations down under. It had everything- Long sent home, the GB win over the Aussies in Sydney, Bondi v Blackpoolbeach & a young James Roby trying to catch pigeons on an Aussie beach etc- great stuff.

    You can have a documentary by all means.

    This one made our game look small time.

    It focused on what our game was back in its prime to what it is now.

    It said we need this tour to do well to get the GB brand back up there and if it failed it would kill the brand.

    It failed as a tour on team selections and results. Its a negative documentary for our game.

    The coverage of our Players and Coaches swearing their heads off was not needed, surely on a 4-5 week tour team selections and tactics could have had more air time.

    Hardaker was dropped but with no reason given?

    That is poor coverage.




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  13. 11 minutes ago, Gav Wilson said:

    In the contrary Jonty58 my good boy. I thought the documentary was absolutely ok when I watched it, two years ago.

    Good on you Gav.

    I am glad you enjoyed it.

    I prefer a video I can watch with my family to enjoy our sport together.

    Not much on watching Docos with Fs and Cs with my kids and wife but each to their own mate.


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  14. 1 minute ago, Gav Wilson said:

    So somebody is mad at some swearing in a documentary from 3 years ago?

    Good thread this.


    It was a rubbish documentary that portrayed our sport in a poor light.

    If you don't like it don't bother commenting Gav 

  15. 6 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

    So you want an un-cut behind the scenes documentary that’s heavily cut 

    You do realise every show is cut and edited don't you?

    Nothing is just off the camera.

    If you are happy with a documentary that is full of people swearing like morons then good on you.

    In the heat of the moment they may cut loose but surely over four weeks there would be enough material to leave this out.

    It was almost a stich up of northerners. 


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  16. 31 minutes ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

    I quite liked the behind the scenes style of documentary and it’s something you rarely get to see in our sport. Did I think there was a bit too much swearing, yes, but if players and coaches swear a lot that’s what this type of thing will pick up. As for running at an injured player, at that level that’s exactly what I’d expect, it’s not under 11’s rugby, did you think they should only attack the opposite side of the field to Foran?


    Running at an injured player is an obvious tactic.

    It was the way it was portrayed in this "Doco" it was not done well.

    Run at that Cu*t could have been left on the editing floor.

    Was this Doco only meant for a limited audience.

    It was not something I would want to watch with my young family.

    Its often said that our sport is a family game but you get idiots swearing their head off at games.

    This "documentary" had Coaches and hangers on swearing from the sidelines all the time.

    Hardly a family environment unless you are ####.


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