Worzel
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1 hour ago, JohnM said:
Quite correctly, too. Its not their job.
It's mad this isn't it? I mean, this has all been explained a thousand times.
RL Commercial was set-up to lead the commercial growth of the game. The fact we then appointed an incompetent RFL placeholder to lead it, a man who had failed in every single one of his previous roles at the RFL, is not IMG's fault. Nor is the fact that the games stakeholders couldn't manage to get 18 months into a 12 year strategy without blowing it all up.
If our sport had put as much effort into working hard to execute a plan as it does into internecine squabbling and every-3-years "reimagining" focused on petty structural issues, that always result in the same average people in the same roles with new job titles, we'd have overtaken the Premier League by now. It's like that Monty Python sketch about the Judean People's Liberation Front.
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59 minutes ago, gingerjon said:
You've had the last fifteen years and all of the years from 1895 to 1995. And in the intervening years you had the majority of focus.
If the game's declined in the heartlands, it's because of a complete and total failure of the people there in spite of having the most favourable set up for rugby league in the country.
This concept that the game has failed to develop the heartlands because it has been distracted by expansion is absolutely hilarious. I mean, geniunely hilarious. This is rugby league we're talking about, right?
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1 hour ago, Harry Stottle said:
Now before you go casting assertions, please tell me apart from Londons 45 years in the RFL what has been the contribution to the player pool of all those teams that have come and gone from outside the heartlands in whatever time scale over the 130 years you wish to mention.
For the record, I think this increase from 7 to 10 which is effectivly for SL purposes as below SL teams can source as many NFT players as they want to, will do the game no good whatsoever.
I have said for a long time that we should focus on the heartlands Dave, but especially in the areas where it really matters, like the community side of the sport which has been paramount for a long time especially to those who have been witness to the decline of the sport in that area.
Catalans pathways provide more Super League players than Leigh
London pathways provide more Super League players than Leigh
Will that do you?
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1 hour ago, Tommygilf said:
ironic statement from a man who has been at, checks notes, Swinton and Rochdale most recently. Such glittering success stories where failing isn't even in the top 1000 descriptives of the clubs...
Somebody needs to remind nincompoops like Beaumont that Catalans have bigger crowds than Leigh, and develop more Super League players than Leigh.
As for that dipstick Mazey, if Rochdale was every going to be a hotbed for the elite game it would have happened by now. They've had 154 years to pull it off.
None of what they say makes sense, even on their own terms. Just a bunch of petty nationalist Little Englanders with no care for anything beyond the end of their nose.
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On 12/07/2025 at 22:17, daz39 said:
We boo often enough, usually taking the pee out of Rovers fans
and yes i do, i think about my Grandkids and my dogs and sometimes my Wife and who i can get as my next guests to interview and what ideas to come up with to raise monre money but most importantly how i can rile one Hull KR fan up on an internet site.TBH you lot bite so easily, others are harder to crack.
Also, as i am commenting on something that happened in a match on that match thread why would you think it was weird, if i'd have posted it on the Catalans v Wire match thread you may have had a point!
maybe you're just a bit of a bad loser who feels like pitch invading when your team loses?
I was very clear that Leigh deserved to win. Following Rovers between 1989 and 2005 in particular I became very used to losing to better teams and I’m fine with it, it’s part of sport. I always saw the Leeds and Leigh games as banana skins and have said so on both match threads ahead of time.
Hull KR losing doesn’t mean I can’t call out your one-note obsession though. You’ve basically got Hull KR Tourette’s. If Ben Flower had punched a Rovers player you’d have thought they were faking the injury.
If I was a betting man I’d say you probably bumped into the back of someone with your car once and Hudgell sued you behalf of the other party on a no-win, no-fee basis. But who knows maybe it’s something else?
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On 13/07/2025 at 11:25, phiggins said:
Still stupid. Retaliation never ends well for a player.
Yes, I agree. But it amazes me that everyone is prepared to gloss over the root cause. Sky didn’t even bother to look at it.
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Nigel confirms that all of the plans are regressive and purely short-term tactical moves. Quelle surprise!
The sport finally had a long-term strategy, with metrics moving in the right direction and the abiity to enter TV rights negotiations (the only meaningful way to increase revenue quickly) on the back of them, and what does it do? Blow it all up for 14 teams with an extra derby, and the pretence that away fans are the solution.
The vaguely sensible clubs should approach the NRL now, if 5 or 6 of them did that then ultimatey another 4 or 5 would join in later when they saw the opportunity. The NRL won't come without being asked, but they might come if the right clubs did ask.
We could then leave the luddites with their own comp, and they could then go back to winter rugby and a new middle eights structure, east and west conferences to save travel costs, or any other backward-looking idea they might come up with in the board room at Batley over pie and peas.
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1 minute ago, daz39 said:
What a load of absolute doodoo, he went for him purposely, or was he clothes lined too?
Do you think about anything other than Hull KR, our fans and the actions of our players? It’s dull, and to be honest a bit weird.
PS: I’d love to hear some boooing at Huddersfield games. Of course that would require more than 39 fans to turn up (that’s where your number comes from, right?)
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4 minutes ago, phiggins said:
Just seen a replay that someone has posted. Don’t think there is anything in the Lam on Litten challenge bar an accident from one player trying to play the ball and a defender staying in the ruck. Charnley might have a case to answer for the lash out on Davies though
Whether it’s deliberate or accidental, Lam stood on his head with some force so I merely point out that Litten’s emotional reaction afterward is not as weird as others would have us believe.
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8 minutes ago, daz39 said:
WTH was Litten doing? absolute stupidity that, he could be looking at a ban for that, hitting someone from behind with that force is dangerous, it was nearly as bad as the horrible clothes line which almost killed Lewis last week.
Leigh were miles better, as i said last week without Lewis, Rovers don't look half as dangerous.
It might have been something to do with the disorientation as a result of Lam kicking him in the face. But hey, I’m not a doctor.
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23 minutes ago, daz39 said:
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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49 minutes ago, Just Browny said:
Decapitation was it
Not quite. But it happened. As did Litten’s broken nose apparently. But yeah let’s all pretend there’s nothing to see here…
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Fair play, the best side won today, no complaints about that.
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Just now, Coggo said:
Wheels coming off the KR bandwagon.
I think we can lose matches away to an in-form side whilst playing with a disrupted spine without it being that, don’t you?
Nice wishful thinking though
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Charnley just smashed Davies in the face with his elbow. Am I watching some sort of parallel universe?
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That was obvious in real time that it came off the Leigh player. Weird.
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Did Tanginoa play winger as a kid before he filled out a bit?
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Well this is going precisely as I’d expect it to without our first choice #6 and losing our back up #6 in under 20 minutes. Hugely disrupts Rovers spine as there’s no way McIllorum can play 80 minutes in this heat, so Jez can’t move into the halves which would be the normal “plan C” in this situation.
Will be interesting to see how Peters’ sets us up after half time. I’d be tempted to move Morgue or Broadbent to 6, and move a back rower into the centre spot to backfill.
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46 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said:
The heat will be a deterrent today for a few - cant blame them - ticket sales have virtually stopped since Wednesday. Will be over 9k in though
It'll be a shame if it isn't sold out, Rovers requested more tickets and Degsy held them back for home fans (as you quite rightly should if there's demand for 'em)
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On 10/07/2025 at 10:00, daz39 said:
Should be a belter this.
God help the planet if KR lose again though.......
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5 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:
Well we agree at last Click, but a lot of people are in denial of that, the most fervent of IMG supporters are discussing who will be the 3 to come up, with complete disregard that it goes against IMG's structure.
Not me!
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Just now, Coggo said:
The reality is it does matter who competes in Super League, ie big English clubs with big English fanbases who buy Sky Sports subscriptions and gave British rugby league the escape velocity to become a full-time professional sport.
The same holds true for football.
Or are you arguing that the value to Sky Sports of the Premier League would be unaffected if Fleetwood, Accrington Stanley and Barnet took the place of Liverpool, Man United and Chelsea?
I've given you reams of evidence demonstrating how football drives subscriptions in the UK, and that rugby league subscriptions are not material for Sky. You can choose to ignore that, that's cool. But please stop telling me what other thing I'm saying that I haven't said, it's all a bit dull.
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2 minutes ago, Coggo said:
Not sure we will. You won't admit reality.
I've made my point, and backed it up with clear evidence. Others can judge, you're welcome to your views mate.
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9 minutes ago, Coggo said:
Under your logic, it doesn't matter who competes in Super League as long as the games are competitive.
So, goodbye Leeds vs Saints and hello North Wales vs Keighley - as long as it's a belter.
No, you're being reductive, that isn't my logic at all and you know it isn't. People want to buy the elite version of the sport, you can take that as read. Then within the elite version of the sport, they want to buy games between teams that are more consistently competitive.
We'll get there in the end
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SL clubs look to reinstate Nigel Wood.
in The General Rugby League Forum
Posted · Edited by Worzel
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This entirely misses the point.
The fact those two clubs don’t have competition for miles and miles is the entire point! Rugby league doesn’t need more clubs in the same confined spaces to build participation, anyone in Leigh interested in rugby league has choices and don’t need the Leopards. Anyone in Keighley has access to other elite pathways. Same in Hunslet, and many other places. But the sport has the ability to get more people playing in London and South West France. For minority sports, getting more people playing is key to the mission.
The fact you see those clubs strength in that aspect and the strategic advantage it brings us as some sort of “cheating” is precisely the mindset that’s held our sport back for years. It’s not about what makes life better or worse for Leigh relatively, it’s not about any one club… it’s about what’s going to be best for the sport overall.