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Northern Sol

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#3017359 Two South Wales Youngsters Sign For Widnes Vikings

Posted by Northern Sol on Yesterday, 10:21 AM

It is a lie. Welsh youngsters won't sign for M62 clubs. Parky told me. These kids needed a professional side in Wales to aspire to, otherwise they would chose to play union or soccer.




#3016656 Canadian team apply to join Championship 1 (merged threads)

Posted by Northern Sol on 19 October 2014 - 11:12 PM

I am serious me owd cock. Go back to the World Club Challenge in 1997 when all SL teams went to Australia was every player a full time professional? I agree that it might be difficult for a teacher but self employed people do take holidays especially when given months notice.

I think it's fair to say that there is a different player expectation at SL and KPC1 level. A fair number of grassroots players choose to play in the lower leagues because they have fairly lucrative jobs that they don't want to give up. SL players have chosen to play at the top level and are rather more willing to make appropriate sacrifices - for one thing you can be sure that they were on more money than a KPC1 player gets. 




#3016652 Canadian team apply to join Championship 1 (merged threads)

Posted by Northern Sol on 19 October 2014 - 11:02 PM

I watched the union results on the news last night, some cup competition. I was jealous to death.

I'm pigged off with being stuck in a corner.  I've lived with it nearly all my rugby following life. What pigs me off even more is that people think we can't do anything about it, and what pigs me off even more is that people, think that we shouldn't.

Which union competition has Canadian teams playing within an English semi-pro league?




#3016651 Canadian team apply to join Championship 1 (merged threads)

Posted by Northern Sol on 19 October 2014 - 10:59 PM

Rugby League - beset by small time thinking since 1896. We had Welsh and London clubs involved way back when but we consciously made life difficult for them because it cost too much to go there and they brought too few fans. We had Yugoslavia and Italy and we didn't nurture them. We pander to the loudest naysayers and create a league structured to appease them rather than boldly seeking to spread the game. The rugby league family can be a unit that makes anyone outside the immediate circle feel quite unwelcome. We either decide to prioritise growth or manage the decline into a kind of clog-wearing shinty for pit villages.

Last time I checked KPC1 had and will have sides from London, Wales (2), the North East, Coventry, Hemel, Oxford and Gloucester but let's retreat to stereotypes about pit villages because it's so much easier than dealing with reality.

 

The reality is that semi-pro sportsmen have a very difficult time getting time off to compete in a national league for fairly small amounts of money. But let's ignore that and just pretend that asking them to fly to Canada is a viable thing and it's just a few small-minded folk holding the game back. Don't imagine that it's only parochial types in Yorkshire, Lancashire and Cumbria that feel that way either - I doubt that the people involved with the expansion clubs feel any differently.

 

One of the reasons why the game has been so poor at expanding is that there is an obsession with "thinking big" and chasing the two birds in the bush. Unfortunately many people need to chase the dream even if it is a false dream. 




#3013846 Canadian team apply to join Championship 1 (merged threads)

Posted by Northern Sol on 14 October 2014 - 01:43 PM

File under 'Will never happen'.

 

Wasn't North America supposed to be crazy about indoor televised rugby league with 4 quarters by now? That apparently had "big money" behind it as well.

 

For some reason the sport seems to attract dreamers who talk big but don't have the wallet to back up their promises.

 

Actually maybe other sports have them as well but they don't take them as seriously as we do.

 

This forum being this forum, we'll be discussing whether their opponents at the Blackpool Magic Championship derby game should be against New York or Montreal and which silly nickname it would best for them to adopt for the next two months. 




#3013510 Ben Flower Sending Off / Reaction / Apology (merged threads)

Posted by Northern Sol on 13 October 2014 - 11:18 PM

So come on expand.

 

What have I posted that is wrong, have I claimed Flowers was innocent don't think so, have I said he shouldn't be severely punished I don't think so, I'm guilty of saying I don't think he should be banned for life but if he is I accept that that is the RFLs view.

 

I have stated a position, which a lot of people agree with, that the judiciary should not be involved as this will set a dangerous precedent and considering Hohaia's attack on Flowers it may not be wise to pursue as both could finish up in trouble.

 

I have taken to task the "entirely innocent" line.

 

So what out of all of those is wrong AND why?

The judiciary can't be prevented from getting involved if they choose to. It doesn't look likely that they will get involved though.

 

Things may happen in a context and you can't apply the logic of "civilian life" to a sporting contest so you can't prosecute everything that might be assault in normal life. There is an implied consent to "rough stuff" when you step onto a rugby field.

 

But there have to be limits. It's not like boxing where getting punched is what you signed up for (and hit a man on the ground who has been ko'd is against even the boxing code). What Flowers did with the second punch is totally outside the norms of rugby and there is no way that there is any kid of implied consent for that. I wouldn't wish prosecution on him as he doesn't have form but if he does get done for this then he only has himself to blame.

 

What Hohaia did was also wrong but not sufficiently outside of the rugby norm to warrant a prosecution.




#3012085 Ben Flower Sending Off / Reaction / Apology (merged threads)

Posted by Northern Sol on 12 October 2014 - 09:02 AM

Hock tweeted that Hohaia deserved it?

And that's as good a reason as any for Hock never to play international rugby again. He's never going to learn.




#3010011 The Wisdom of Roy Keane

Posted by Northern Sol on 08 October 2014 - 06:57 PM

What made Roy a winner on the field has been detrimental to his life off it. The drive he has is borderline insane. In his early days at United (before he got married) he would trash the house he was staying in if they got a bad result. He calmed down a lot when he got married which he mentions this in his first book.

I'd defend him to the hilt. Anyone that aspires to win would start their team with Keane...nobody controlled the two boxes in English football better than him, and nobody was more determined to win.

Not long after he arrived at Nottingham Forest he was sat in the changing rooms just listening to the other players and was disgusted by how lazy the English boys were and they wouldn't be overly bothered by a poor result...said they had it too easy, but he did praise Stuart Pearce.

The world cup incident he was right...he had single handedly got Ireland to the World Cup in 2002 (the game against Holland he ran the show)...and weeks after qualifying he had a meeting with Mick McCarthy about ensuring Ireland had good facilities/equipment etc for the tournament. The Irish FA were notorious for doing things on the cheap while they pocketed the money...also flew first class with players in economy..nothing riled Keane more. Fast forward 8 months to the week before the tournament...the pitch had potholes, the players had no kits...it was Butlins holiday camp preparation. McCarthy didn't deliver (tbf it wasn't McCarthys fault it was the FAI who had failed him)...and bare in mind Keane was used to Man United and having the best preparation in order to win. Keane complained to McCarthy in front of the players this time and McCarthy feeling undermined responded with the cardinal sin...accusing Keane of faking injury to miss the 2nd leg of the qualifiers against Iran. Keane had taken injections just to play in the first game (which Ireland won comfortably) and so quite rightly didn't jeopardise the injury further by not playing the 2nd leg. To accuse Keane of faking injury was the final straw and I don't blame him one iota for telling Mick (and the money grabbing FAI parasites) to get f999ked.

Alfie Haaland. The same Alfie Haaland who (like McCarthy) had accused Keane of faking injury and did so while he was flat out on the ground having done his cruciate knee ligament. The response by Keane a few years later was wrong...but the Norwegian was no innocent victim in this.

The one thing Keane would never do (to quote Bill Shankly)..he would never cheat the people. He gave everything on the field and in the modern era that makes him ridiculously rare. Anyone lazily strutting on the pitch he gave them both barrels, Mark Bosnich turned up late at his first traing session at United and started smiling when as he approached Keane (obviously had no idea who he was facing)..."what time do you call this"..."this is Manchester United your not playing for Aston Villa anymore".

Keane was Ferguson on the pitch, but without the people skills (or tolerance) to make him a decent manager when he retired.

 

The world cup incident he was right...he had single handedly got Ireland to the World Cup in 2002 (the game against Holland he ran the show)...and weeks after qualifying he had a meeting with Mick McCarthy about ensuring Ireland had good facilities/equipment etc for the tournament. The Irish FA were notorious for doing things on the cheap while they pocketed the money...also flew first class with players in economy..nothing riled Keane more. Fast forward 8 months to the week before the tournament...the pitch had potholes, the players had no kits...it was Butlins holiday camp preparation. McCarthy didn't deliver (tbf it wasn't McCarthys fault it was the FAI who had failed him)...and bare in mind Keane was used to Man United and having the best preparation in order to win. Keane complained to McCarthy in front of the players this time and McCarthy feeling undermined responded with the cardinal sin...accusing Keane of faking injury to miss the 2nd leg of the qualifiers against Iran. Keane had taken injections just to play in the first game (which Ireland won comfortably) and so quite rightly didn't jeopardise the injury further by not playing the 2nd leg. To accuse Keane of faking injury was the final straw and I don't blame him one iota for telling Mick (and the money grabbing FAI parasites) to get f999ked.
 

Well according to Mick, Keane called him an English c*** and queried how a clown like him had ended up manager of Ireland. I'm not sure how Keane could subsequently realise that he had let his country down but you can't. He may have been right about a lot of stuff but he should have risen above it and given the World Cup his all. Instead he let his team mates down.




#3009446 Cup Final

Posted by Northern Sol on 07 October 2014 - 09:37 PM

Four posts deleted for swearing / abusive language. No more please.

 

One non-abusive post deleted at the request of the original poster. One non-abusive post removed because it quoted a deleted post. 




#3007544 Nick Griffin expelled from BNP

Posted by Northern Sol on 04 October 2014 - 08:53 PM

If someone has joined the BNP unaware that they are a racist party, that isn't naivety, it's demonstrative of an intellectual incapacity that will require them to be reminded to breath.

Perhaps but even stupid people are still people.




#2997945 Scottish Independence Referendum

Posted by Northern Sol on 18 September 2014 - 12:27 PM

Whoever said "I'm alright Jack" to Dave T was bang out of order.

I wanted to be the one to say that.

I don't think anyone ever votes without thinking about themselves and their immediate family first whether they vote Tory / Labour / something else.




#2997075 Rugby League to hit Indian cinemas next month

Posted by Northern Sol on 17 September 2014 - 09:12 AM

I'm hoping that the "league" part of rugby league doesn't get lost. 




#2997061 Scottish Independence Referendum

Posted by Northern Sol on 17 September 2014 - 08:56 AM

Possibly, I guess language would play a key part of the decision as well.

 

Of the 400k English up there, I wonder how many are left leaning and tempted at the prospect of being able to live in a "Tory/UKIP free zone"! 

UKIP has a Scottish MEP as do the Tories. IIRC the SNP have two.

 

For all the rhetoric about evil Tories that you hear, quite a few Scots vote for them.

 

2010 General Election results in Scotland.

 

SNP: 491,386

Conservatives: 412,855




#2995631 RL in London - the BBC's view

Posted by Northern Sol on 14 September 2014 - 11:08 PM

Yes, but if the RFL give extra support to London, they need also to give it to Gateshead, North and South Wales, Oxford, Gloucester, Coventry and maybe there are not the resources to split the pie so many ways.

If we're honest, there isn't the resources for London at all. How many millions do people imagine that the RFL has available per year to fritter away?

 

The money needs to go on development officers not propping up failing clubs.




#2979245 17/08/14 - London Broncos v Leeds Rhinos KO 3pm

Posted by Northern Sol on 17 August 2014 - 09:44 PM

Weakened opposition or not, a win is a win. Great for the young players at Broncos. They needed to experience a win.