Maximus Decimus
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To say I'm really concerned is an understatement.
All the progress we've made since 2016 is in fear of being lost. Not just because we're playing badly, but the negativity is creeping in amongst the fans again.
My 40 odd years of watching England teams leads me to think that, we're heading for a poor exit in the knockouts.
Why do we never have an England team, successful or not that plays well?
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I think I speak for the country when I say,
STOP PASSING THE F****G BALL AROUND THE BACK.
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6 minutes ago, gingerjon said:
The structure isn't working.
That appears to have a lot to do with a very disciplined Danish performance.
England need to be quicker and actually use the space when they manage to create it.
I do think this is feeling like one of those tournaments where we haven't got the right system. The Alexander-Arnold thing looks like a mistake.
Dare I say it, but I'm not sure St Bellingham is ideal in the middle.
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9 minutes ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:
Fair enough, wrong choice of word, I was just meaning we were actually pushing forward, getting a lot of chances for the first half hour and then fell off and as a result Denmark have scored...
Unlike the Serbia game, where we actually dominated, I thought the goal came largely out of nothing.
The narrative about England sitting back has truth but I don't think it applies here. We've been largely rubbish tbh.
It feels like a pre-2018 England team, where we're looking at superstars who can't seem to do it.
The idea that we're favourites is frankly laughable.
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1 minute ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:
We're doing same thing again, classic Southgate, we've dominated for half an hour and then dropped deep.
Not sure how you can say we've dominated. Been very scrappy.
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Damn. Fully deserved.
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Hardly vintage stuff, but we've showed some glimpses.
Blimming awful pitch.
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Much better second half from Scotland and could easy have got the win. At least they're still in the tournament.
Not sure how much it has on bearings but there have been a few tournaments where Scotland have started poorly, got a decent result in the 2nd game only to blow it in the 3rd. 2020 is a very recent example.
I specifically remember 1998, and how there was so much optimism going into the Morocco game only for them to get mullered.
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Scotland fans will be happy and they've shown more heart, but there's still not been a great difference. The goal was very lucky, and I count one actual chance that they fashioned in that half.
Dare I say it, and they'd hate me for the comparison, but Scotland are the England of the minnows...
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On 17/06/2024 at 23:13, tim2 said:
Still struggling for energy but getting round - just. Last week I was at North Yorkshire Waterpark near Scarborough and this week at Talkin Tarn near Carlisle. Thats 376 total at 134 events.
Managed a short run yesterday and will go out again tommorrow. I also need to lose some weight...
Ever since I did the half I've been eating like I don't have to worry about it...
I've booked in another half for September (weather dependent!) but my mojo is a bit low at the beginning of the plan. So I'm basically gaining weight while unenthusiastically doing my runs.
Suppose I better do something about it!
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45 minutes ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:
What an incredible end to the game! What a performance from Albania to rescue that point! Game of the tournament!
It's not often I let out an audible groan when the referee blows the whistle.
Best injury time ever!
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1 hour ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:
Really enjoyable first half from Turkey and Georgia! 1-1 at the half, Georgia really holding their own, had some fantastic chances if not a lot of the ball. Turkey had a goal ruled out because the strikers toes were offside.
Who'd have thought this would be game of the tournament?
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Safe to say that was a great result for English morale!
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21 minutes ago, JohnM said:
We get a goal up and then....
....we seem to lose our edge.
Reaction times increase a little bit, we retreat just that little bit, we ease off just a little bit. All these little bits add up to allowing the opposition back into the game.
is there room for Foden, Kane and Bellingham on the pitch at the same time?
This does feel like the big issue. Do we have a Lampard and Gerrard situation all over again?
Although it still wasn't as bad as decades prior, there seems to be a peculiarly English way of underperforming at a major tournament. Over the weekend, I watched Italy and Netherlands both of whom didn't start quite as well as they'd like. However, even in doing so they created plenty of chances and moved with speed.
We rarely seem to do badly by being involved in high-scoring shootouts. English underachievement is always a slow way of play and creating few chances, but while rarely conceding either. It used to be an inability to pass a ball more than 3 times, along a general slow level of play. For instance, in the famously bad 0-0 draw with Algeria we only had 4 shots on target.
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After the dust has settled, my gut is quite negative about the performance.
Even though we opened in a similar vein in 2020/1 with an uninspiring 1-0 (albeit against better opposition) something just didn't click last night. We've heard so much about having the best attack, but they didn't seem to gel and something was off.
I was actually quite pleased defensively but can't see anybody seriously thinking we're favourites after round one.
Hopefully we grow into the tournament, but we'll definitely need to.
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So it turns out our number 1 kept us in the game by making 1 save.
There was some hyperbole from the commentators I think. Serbia had pressure without making any real clear chances.
The problem for me was that we offered nothing and invited them towards us.
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1 minute ago, Futtocks said:
They can be a bit too steady and safe for the badge-kissing element of the tabloid press. But their "PRIDE AN' PASSION!" alternatives have always failed, so meh.
Exactly, at the end of the day we won. Only the second game we've ever won to start a Euros.
If the next two games are the same then I'll be concerned, but hopefully we've learned a lot from tonight.
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5 minutes ago, RayCee said:
Does England have the confidence to win the Euros?
If there's one thing under Southgate, we tend to play our way into tournaments. Reality is we only need another point to qualify and a win on Thurs prob wins the group.
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First 30/35 minutes absolutely fine. After that, it was definitely England of old.
We've won and that's that. I think the commentators overegged how much danger we were in, but we didn't play well. Apparently we were 'indebted to our number 1'. I can't think of a proper dangerous save he actually had to make?
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4 minutes ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:
Kane has been completely locked out of this game, we've barely seen him.
Yep, not been good this first 15. Like we're treating them like France, and trying to protect what we have.
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42 minutes ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:
JUUUUUUUUDE!!! EASA!!!! EASA!!!! EASA!!!!!
Decent enough first half until the last 10.
Look comfortable without being too flashy, but let them in a bit towards the end. Hoping the half-time break does us good and we get an early second goal or it might start getting a bit squeaky.
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1 minute ago, HawkMan said:
Bearing in mind the VAR controversies if we had a separate timekeeper, with the clock in full view of everyone I suspect they'd be more arguing about the difference in how time is added on from one match to the next. Football is such a fluid game with subjective decisions as part of the laws , they'll never be uniformity in how referees manage the game. This generates talking points that are part of its popularity.
I'm more talking about a system very similar to sports like RL. The clock runs unless the referee specifically thinks time is being wasted and calls for the clock to be stopped. In instances where a player is getting treatment, it is genuinely silly that the clock is still running.
I genuinely can't think of any actual instances in RL where fans have been annoyed because a referee didn't stop the clock quickly enough. We had to bring in a shot clock for conversions but this is slightly different.
I lost all sympathy with the 'talking points' argument when Lampard's goal wasn't given.
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22 minutes ago, HawkMan said:
That's the difference between competition rules and laws of the game. There's an amount of leeway for difference comps to play with how time is added on. PL and EFL add on a lot more than UEFA do for their comps. As for a stop the clock function, there is one, the clock is on the referee's wrist, it just isn't connected to the off the field stuff.
If the referee was stopping his clock properly, then there shouldn't be much leeway between divisions at all. It suggests to me, that there is very little standardisation about when referees are stopping the clock. I would argue it makes more sense to take the process of keeping time out of the hands of the referees entirely.
Then I don't see why they don't just share this with the public and be transparent about where they are stopping and adding time. I would argue that there was around 5 minutes wasted after the late goal, never mind across the whole half. It would certainly help with fan frustration when it is taking forever for the game to restart and you're chasing a goal.
I don't know if it is just because it is so big and they don't feel the need to make obvious changes or so culturally diverse that it is hard to persuade people, but football in many respects is so slow to move with the times.
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Decent game between Netherlands and Poland.
Not for the first time this tournament, I'm going to have a rant about why football doesn't have a stop the clock function.... It doesn't seem to be like the PL at the moment, where they have started adding on a lot. For instance, it took nearly two minutes before the game restarted after the final goal. In the end, they added on a mere 5 minutes.
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Been this way barring the odd decent performance for 30 years.