Maximus Decimus
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8 hours ago, StandOffHalf said:
Fury just before departing for home.
You can't trust anything that comes out of his mouth, but even saying that I think that this is strange from him. I didn't expect that he would try to make out like he'd had a great camp, because that seriously makes him look worse. The underestimating and undertraining idea would have at least been an excuse. What is he saying now? That at his best he can only just beat an MMA fighter who has never boxed?
One thing I would say about this video, is that I'm not sure he's in a great place mentally. It reminds me of the sort of interviews he was giving after beating Klitschko.
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Wow what a finish to the Giants-Jets.
The Giants were 10-7 up after a dire game (with a record number of punts in the first half), and got the ball back with less than 2 minutes on the clock. They failed miserably to see it out and the Jets got it back with 24 seconds on the clock.
Somehow, they got into field goal range, stopped the clock with 1 second left and kicked it only to repeat the process in OT.
Managing the clock is a feature of NFL that I've always enjoyed and definitely leads to exciting finishes.
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17 hours ago, Futtocks said:
Matthew Perry aka Chandler Bing from 'Friends' aged 54 - drowned.
https://nypost.com/2023/10/28/entertainment/friends-star-matthew-perry-dead-at-age-54-of-apparent-drowning-report/
Bloody hell.
After reading his tragic autobiography, he spent the last couple of decades in near permanent pain and it had taken a terrible toll on his health.
He really was the magic that made Friends so good.
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41 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said:
Do they normally sell out the visit of Everton?
I just presumed most clubs sold out most games tbh. They certainly announce them all as basically a sellout (including this one).
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On 24/10/2023 at 07:21, gingerjon said:
Just realised I didn't reply to this.
I had planned to run/slow run the whole way round but, in the end, that didn't happen. I walked for a chunk at the midpoint and then built up a routine of run/jog/walk/run/jog/walk until about 2km out when I felt I could run without stopping again.
Getting to the finish line was always the challenge for me so I'm okay with that. It would have been nice to keep running throughout but once that became impossible I had to rebuild my strategy mid race - and that was properly tough!
Thanks for this. From watching a number of videos and hearing experiences etc, I think I would just need to concentrate on getting round by hook or by crook. Running all the way on the first go seems unrealistic.
I'm also not sure after seeing other people's experiences that I'd fancy another go!
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Everton ground out a very decent away win at West Ham today.
There was a significant number of empty seats today which was surprising IMO as the Hammers have been doing well. You're so used to seeing PL games sold out that it was quite strange.
Anyone know the reason? Is the Olympic Park too big for them, or is it a bad fan experience?
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Some interesting match-ups this week.
None more so for me than the Jets vs Giants. I suspect I'll forever be bemused by aspects of American culture, and one is that this game is pretty low-key. You'd think the quadrennial New York derby would be the biggest game of the weekend, but it barely gets more than a passing reference in any preview.
The biggest talking point this week was about whether the wheels have fallen off for San Francisco, so it'll be interesting to see how they get on.
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9 minutes ago, Click said:
This kind of result can only happen in the heavyweight division, any other weight class of champion boxer Vs MMA goes with the boxer easily IMO(fought under boxing rules)
This is pretty embarrassing for Fury & heavyweight boxing, but he destroys Usyk still IMO. Size plays a big factor
This was part of the problem IMO. He has often used his size to lean on fighters and tire them out (something Wilder and Cunningham complained about) but it wasn't going to work with a UFC guy.
He basically got it all wrong and is paying the price today. No doubt he'll retire and then unretire and then face Mike Tyson in an exhibition all while screaming everyone is ducking him including Ngannou.
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37 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said:
I think you’re getting a bit carried away mate with the profound meaning of last night.
But I understand that it’s easy to get swept along with things in the moment.
I don't think we'll agree about the effects on boxing, and realistically it will be hard to ever prove. Boxing has been in a decline for a while and if it goes further into decline it'll be hard to pinpoint it on this fight.
However, I think it's been terrible for Fury personally. This morning, and I know it's in the heat of the moment, there's been a lot of reassessment of how good he actually is/was.
There was always a question about how good Fury was, whether Klitschko was a fluke and the quality of his opponents etc, but by enlarge the Wilder trilogy put paid to that amongst the general boxing public.
This fight has definitely led to a re-examination of his record and IMO even when the dust has settled it'll have damaged his legacy long-term.
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39 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said:
Fury took him lightly, didn’t train properly and hasn’t boxed for 11 months.
Fair play to the MMA fighter who nobody thought had a chance.
Everything else you’re saying though is an exaggeration I’m sorry.
Ngannou hasn't boxed period.
Let's say that Fury agrees to fight Usyk on the 23rd (he won't of course), are you saying that this will do nothing to take away from that fight in the eyes of the general public? Even if he dominates him, people will just throw Ngannou back at him.
When a long retired 40 year old Mayweather fought a near-peak McGregor, he didn't take it seriously and got a stoppage. Even then, the narrative was that he toyed with him and could've ended it when he wanted. After all, he's a boxer fighting an MMA fighter. The skill levels at that sport aren't close.
Last night, the reigning WBC champion got dropped and then survived against an MMA fighter. There is no question that he was simply playing with Ngannou.
I get what you're saying about it just being an exhibition, but I think you're underestimating the damage this does to the image of top-level boxing. In RL, at the top level, we pride ourselves on having superior athletes, tackling and handling skills to RU. That gets shot out of the water if the Kangaroos lose to the All Blacks at RL regardless of how seriously they took it.
The UFC now gets to play the 'superior athlete' card and believe me they will.
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11 hours ago, Gerrumonside ref said:
I think you’re exaggerating again or being prone to believe others talking about the seismic nature of things here.
I guess it’s the way of the world these days.
Feels more like heavyweight champion of the world doesn’t bother training for non title exhibition fight against MMA fighter to make a quick buck.
It's the heavyweight champion 8 weeks out from the first undisputed fight in a generation. His inability to beat a relatively old MMA fighter is seismic IMO.
Since the rise of UFC/MMA, the argument has always been that while an MMA fighter is a better all-rounder, their striking skills are primitive compared to boxers. I've heard all sorts since these crossover fights started, about how if they wanted to the boxer would never get touched, or could take them out at any point if they wanted.
I don't know if you watched, but Fury really struggled in all parts, and the only person likely to get taken out was Fury.
Of course they'll throw out the ill-prepared line, but it shouldn't have been a factor. British RL teams have benefitted over the years by beating undercut Aussie sides, but at the same time if Penrith stepped off the plane and went straight to the ground they'd still beat Widnes handily. There are levels.
This further legitimises UFC/MMA over boxing. The image of an overweight WBC and 'lineal' champion on his backside after being hit by a chiseled MMA fighter will do untold damage to boxing IMO.
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2 minutes ago, Futtocks said:
A heavyweight champion in a novelty non-belt fight and it's a farce that demeans everyone involved?
Gosh.
Next opponent: Thunderlips.
It doesn't demean Ngannou, he looks like the ultimate now.
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2 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said:
I think that’s a bit of an exaggeration.
I'm not sure how.
The reigning boxing WBC and 'linear' champion, has just basically lost to an MMA fighter who isn't even in the UFC anymore.
On his personal level, it's extremely bad. He's painted himself as this master boxer who is levels above anybody today, in his opinion the greatest ever. This is much worse than Joshua-Ruiz as it wasn't a one-off punch that changed a fight, he was outboxed IMO.
For boxing, it is a disastrous look and one that will just further legitimise MMA/UFC over boxing. That's proper fighting to the point they can even beat/nearly beat top-level boxers at their own game.
It's akin to the Kangaroos struggling to beat the All Blacks in a game of RL.
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Just now, Gerrumonside ref said:
Did Fury even bother to train?
I'm sure he'll scream complacency but it shouldn't and won't matter. In theory, he should have been able to win with one hand against a non-boxer.
He's destroyed his legacy and done a lot to diminsh what reputation boxing had left. This isn't the bizarre crossover with Muhammad Ali where he probably lost, but a genuine boxing fight.
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Fury gets the decision but it was clearly one to save face.
What a fraud. If you didn't know which one was the boxer, you wouldn't be able to tell and might even have thought it was Ngannou.
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Ngannou hasn't just knocked him down in a fluke, he's embarrassed Fury here.
It's not hyperbolic to say this could be a nail in the coffin for boxing. When your undefeated heavyweight champion can't beat an MMA fighter, then you've lost any legitimacy.
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Any Fury just got knocked down by an MMA fighter.
The guy is just a disaster for boxing.
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On 22/10/2023 at 21:27, Irish Saint said:
Maximus becomes the good luck charm of the Bears as they easily defeat the Raiders. Looking forward to his report.
In other news Bill Belichick gets his 300th career win against the Bills. Our Patriots fan DeeDeuce didn't have the faith to stick with them this week.
Finally,Detroit look more like the Detroit we are used to as they are routed by Baltimore. Before anyone thinks about writing them off they do not play another team with winning record until New Year's Eve when they face the Cowboys.
Got back yesterday, and still in recovery mode. Obviously, very pleased by the result and I'm just waiting on the offer of free season tickets by the Bears. I'm really rooting for Tyson Bagent, and there was a lot of positive media about him.
The experience was great, I was comparing it to the Premier League over here and it is very different. Despite being 1-5, it was very much a party atmosphere around the stadium and spirits were high at the tailgating parties with a lot of drinking going on. There was a lot of good-natured mixing between opposition fans and home fans.
As for the game, it goes by really quickly and it's really easy to follow with the play announcers. One criticism from non-NFL fans is that it is so stop start, but it doesn't feel like that when the play is happening. One slight frustration is when they switch from Offense to Defense. I always thought that it takes a bit of time but it's clearly just because of commercials. It's weird when the players are all stood on the field waiting while a band is playing or they're doing a competition on the big screen.
The fans are into the game and knowledgeable, and cheer for TDs etc but I wouldn't say they were as intensely into the action as they would be at a PL game. Maybe it was because they were 1-5, or it's the nature of a longer sport but they are happy enough to miss some plays. If I could compare it to anything atmosphere wise it would be an England RL game outside of the heartlands.
Oddly I thought, the loudest the crowd would get (outside of a TD) is a defensive 3rd down. Also, it's funny that whenever there is a flag, they seem to instinctively know if it is going to be a good or a bad flag. The thing I was most surprised by, was that everybody left with 5 minutes to go and maybe 10-15% were still left at the final play. They hadn't won for over a year, but there was no cheering them off at the end or anything like that - maybe they were too plastered, they certainly enjoy a beer!
It's definitely something I'd do again. Whilst not as intense sporting-wise as a PL game or competitive RL game, it's much more of an event and a spectacle.
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8 hours ago, 17 stone giant said:
I thought maybe it was one of the European games you were going to, but I see that it's at Soldier Field, Chicago, so that's very cool. I hope you have a great time.
The Bears might sneak a win in this one, but I can't see them doing the Superbowl shuffle this year!
Haha, if the Bears win I'll be happy. Hoping the place would be rocking with a first win in 390 odd days!
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8 hours ago, 17 stone giant said:
Went to Jags v Bills in 2016(?).
I'm pleased to have done it, but I didn't come away with any desperation to go again. Not saying I wouldn't, but I'm quite happy just watching on TV.
I was just talking to my mate, who said something similar. He said one thing that struck him was the number of people who basically had no clue what was going on but had gone for the experience.
I'm just surprised there are that many people like this that they easily sell out multiple games a year with high demand. You'd think that once the novelty wore off, they struggle to sell for some of the lesser teams.
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8 hours ago, 17 stone giant said:
I'm perfectly happy being both English and British.
I love supporting England at football, cricket, rugby union, etc.
In rugby league I'm absolutely fine with England, but I would prefer a Great Britain team, partly because of history and nostalgia (the contribution of players like Jonathan Davies), but also because I don't think Scotland and Wales are currently able to offer very much.
I'd rather see the rare great player from those countries (e.g. Regan Grace) have the opportunity to represent GB.
Over the years I've got more used to it, but I still preferred the days when we were GB. I'm sure it's partly because of what I grew up with.
The RFL however, did a great job of completely killing it off a few years ago.
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8 hours ago, gingerjon said:
Those two posts read as more aggressive than I mean them to. Several decades listening to weirdo Welsh nationalists and the like pretending that they and Scottish Highlanders are a single pure culture will do that to you.
I completely get what you're getting at amd agree about it being an invented term. I'm not really meaning culturally close to them, more about how we've been historically treated.
The book I was talking about makes the point that the whole Tory/Labour split is largely along these lines. London aside, it falls along these lines of largely the North + Celts being Labour and the South being Tory.
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Just now, gingerjon said:
Celts is a word invented by non Celts to describe a people who have never been united politically, culturally or linguistically.
I'm well aware of that, but it's easier than saying 'Scots, Welsh and Irish.'
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7 hours ago, Damien said:
I think Northerners are patriotic in a different way. I certainly think some London and the South East are wrapped up in a sort of patriotism that people elsewhere don't really relate to as much of that is London centric, all the Royal family and London symbols type stuff.
For me there is also a difference between English and British patriotism too and one doesn't necessarily mean you feel the other. I feel much more English than British and don't really feel the whole British flags, bunting and cups of tea in a quaint Southern town vibe.
I'm the opposite (apart from the bunting).
I've always preferred to call myself British than English. As a northerner, we have more in common with the celts than the southern English.
I can remember when the Scottish referendum was happening, I felt like if Yes had won it was taking away something of my identity. Presuming it would've meant the end of the UK, I really didn't like the idea that 'England' would be my state.
The England football team is the only really English patriotic thing that I get fully on-board with. I was gutted when GBRL became England RL but I obviously support them.
If I'm honest with myself, I'm not sure how much my thoughts are affected by not supporting England RU and even for a long time seeing them as the enemy. They are literally the team of the English establishment, and as such I have negative connotations with that type of England.
Somewhat contradictarily, I have very little time for the whole 'Scouse not English' thing that you see in Liverpool now, and see it as a bit silly.
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They won't be fighting, both Fury and Warren have basically said as much.
Of course being those clowns, there is footage of them from before the fight saying that Usyk cannot back out on the 23rd because it's under contract etc.
Fury would likely beat Usyk because he would be able to use his size in a way he was unable to do against Ngannou.