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  1. 3 hours ago, Dave T said:

    Not 100%. Had he slid, the try would have been fine. Once your ball carrying arm hits the ground though, you can't then make a 2nd movement with it. Although they have muddied that in recent years by allowing it if momentum takes you over the line. 

    That's the sliding tackle law, I think. Didn't apply in this case and I'm not disputing the decision.

    Sliding tackle 5. If a tackled player, because of their momentum slides along the ground, the tackle is deemed to have been effected where the slide ends. (See Section 6, 3(c).)


  2. 12 minutes ago, Suffolk Punch said:

    From the Laws of the Game

    Grounded (a) when they are held by one or more opposing players and the ball or the hand or arm holding the ball comes into contact with the ground.

    Sliding tackle 5. If a tackled player, because of their momentum slides along the ground, the tackle is deemed to have been effected where the slide ends. (See Section 6, 3(

  3. Double movement or not, the decision was no try, so decision made and argument over.

    The broader question for the future: if the attackers elbow touches the ground, does that signify the tackle is complete? I thought that the players progress had to be effectively stopped, so a double movement is counted if the player is stopped and then moves again.

  4. Only drink non-alcoholic beer these days, so not up to speed with these things.

    How is the deal going? I see the name on the pitch-side adverts but do they feature the sport in their general marketing?

    Random ideas: What would it take to get them to produce or label or promote a Grand Final beer sold across all ABK's outlets?

  5. 2 hours ago, Dunbar said:

    I agree with that to a degree. But the same criticism wasn't leveled at State of Origin when Queensland racked up 11 series wins out of 12 between 2006 and 2017.

    Yes, I see that. I'd say, though, that despite that, the games I've seen have in the main, been intensively competitive with uncertain outcomes, whist the results of our international performances against Aus over the last 25 years have largely foregone conclusions, despite our continued hopes.

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  6. 19 hours ago, Pulga said:

    How small-time do you have to be to allow one nation to essentially ruin your international game?

    If Australia don't want to take it seriously then leave them behind.

    I agree entirely. GB/England's lack of competitiveness and terrible record of failure at the highest International level has ruined the international game. SoO is filling the vacuum.

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  7. 42 minutes ago, sam4731 said:

    These proposals get rid of P&R, simple as. Any team that joins SL won't be promoted, they'll be invited based on criteria, 75% of which have nothing to do with on field performance.

    I didn't start this topic so that people could have a go at IMG. Rather, I did so to bring Beaumont's comments to a wider audience in case he had to be reminded of his words in the future.  However, it bears repeating that it is exactly those criteria in lesser or greater measure that allow clubs to perform on the pitch.

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  8. 4 hours ago, sentoffagain2 said:

            Featherstone that little pit village between Wakefield and Pontefract have appeared in six Wembley finals.Winning 3 Challenge Cup Finals  v Barrow Bradford and Hull FC and losing two against Workington Town and Warrington.Plus a win over York in the 1895 Cup.How many big city sides would like that record.We had a population of 12000 up to the last few years and it has increased to about 16500 at present.I think we have done quite well but don't expect some posters on here to agree.

    That was then. This is now. Up next: the future. Things are just not what they used to be.

  9. I just hope they can get out of this mess somehow, though I think getting into this situation in the first place is more than anything a reflection of the changing face of our sport as it tries to come to terms with the realities of the 21st century.  Along with some other clubs, too small for the big time, too big to lose.

  10. 18 minutes ago, Spidey said:

    He’s also offered to accept “demotion” if London finish above them in the table apparently

    Seems so, so I've edited that bit in. At least it takes one's mind off the general election.👍

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  11. Just when you thought it was safe to come out of the cupboard...."Leigh Leopards owner Derek Beaumont has accused Hull FC of 'clearing the decks' this year in the knowledge that they are exempt from relegation from Super League regardless of their on-field performance."

    "Speaking on Leigh's YouTube channel, Beaumont said: "If we were to finish bottom of Super League, then I would be saying I'd like to go back to the Championship, as that's where I think we should be. If we finish bottom, and London finished above us, it wouldn't be morally right for me to stay up and watch them get relegated."

  12. 2 hours ago, EagleEyePie said:

    To be fair we won't actually know which approach to last Saturday's game was most successful, or if it actually has any impact at all. It's trying to prove something that can't actually be proven. If Wire win it doesn't necessarily mean it had anything to do with selecting a weakened side. They're perfectly capable of winning back to back games.

    The logic from Matt Peet was fairly sound. If you have players that need game time to get up to match fitness or don't play their best following a week off it makes more sense to play them. There was a period last season where we had 3 derby games back to back and that produced some of our best performances of the season, we then won the following game against Wakefield, had a week off, and were absolutely awful against Hull FC. We had a week off later in the year before another game against Hull FC and we were poor in that game too.

    It's all hypothetical. We could have rested loads of players at the weekend and then played terribly in the final. We might still play terribly in the final. I just don't think it actually makes much difference.

    So we've gained two points but lost 2 players for the final. It's potentially a big advantage come the end of the season and a slight disadvantage for the final. If we're being positive though, we've lost our weakest defender and our 4th best middle. A top team should be more than capable of dealing with that adversity. 

    To be fair.

    I don't come on here to be fair. 😀

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