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Wellsy4HullFC

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  1. If we were to do P&R again, I'd like to see a bit of a mix of what we did with the 8s system. Those games featuring Championship v SL clubs were very interesting. I wouldn't do it to the extent of 7 rounds + a final though (that was a bit much!)

    Something along the lines of:

    Week 1:

    1st qualification final: 1st Championship vs 11th SL. Loser into semis.

    2nd qualification quarter finals:

    12th SL vs 6th Championship

    2nd vs 5th

    3rd vs 4th

    Week 2: 

    2nd promotion semi finals:

    Loser of 1st promotion final vs lowest ranked

    2nd highest vs 2nd lowest ranked

    Week 3:

    2nd promotion final

     

    That way, 11th SL and Championship winners get 2 shots at SL, so a good reward for finishing higher. Both SL teams could survive or neither. Minimum of 4 SL vs Championship games, maximum of 5.

    A nice mix of playoffs between the 2 leagues 6 with 2 spots and weighted reward in a very simple structure (basically quarter finals with a wildcard in the first round).

     

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  2. Still think Rovers are pretty clear for the LLS. Their next 3 weeks are Catalans, Salford & Castleford. Wigan have Hull, Catalans & Warrington. 

    They both meet in 4 weeks. I can't see them dropping any points, and Rovers will likely increase their points difference, so effectively Rovers need to lose another before they're overtaken and I can see that being more likely to happen to Wigan than Rovers.

  3. Just showed what we were capable of in the second half when we could actually keep hold of a ball. The last few weeks have been so frustrating in terms of ball retention. Could never build any momentum and were constantly defending. We've got a couple of big players to come back in regards to attack too.

    But with Hardaker at full back playing out of his skin, do we need Pryce...

  4. 1 hour ago, WN83 said:

    Challenge cup finals are probably for a different discussion in truth but I don't think a bit of variety hurts when it comes to choosing international venues. It's in a different part of the country and is absolutely brand new but the sales for Everton gives an indication that people like visiting new venues, they've not been to before.

    Absolutely. 

    For both the Cup Final and internationals.

    As long as we guarantee one big fixture in the capital, there should be no issue moving the Cup Final around. What a boost for Welsh RL it would be again to get the final there occasionally. It's not like we can have a Lions game there!

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  5. 1 hour ago, Cumbrian Fanatic said:

    Tottenham for the Challenge Cup final was fantastic, the best stadium I've ever been to, and would be my first choice in London even though getting away from it was a nightmare. My second choice would have been Arsenal, nowhere near as good a ground but easier to get to a more/better/easier to find pubs nearby 

    I'd love to see a bit of variety come back for the Cup based on whether we hold an international in London that year. 

    Home international series, hold a game in London, CCF in Cardiff/Murrayfield/other 60k+ stadium outside London. 

    Away international series, CCF at Wembley.

    Create demand.

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  6. 7 minutes ago, Cumbrian Fanatic said:

    ...that they are likely to go but will buy nearer the time when everyone who is a possible has decided 

    I've a few like that (including myself) that are waiting until everyone that's wanting to go knows whether they can go or not without moving other commitments. 

    I think 2 games at Wembley in a year (CCF and international) might dilute the appeal of the ground slightly. I'd have loved to have visited Tottenham.

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  7. 1 hour ago, MZH said:

    Yes he is still out. 

    I agree the fluency isnt there without him, and our attack is blunted even further without Pryce, but in the last couple of games what has really killed us is the amount of unforced handling errors. We didn't give ourselves a chance against Warrington, and we could and probably would have beaten Saints if we didn't put so much ball on the floor. We are defensively very strong, and we have a pacy backline and a lot of aerial threat and a few good strike weapons. We will get opportunities if we are patient, but we need to respect possession and build pressure. 

    I think we will get a result tonight, we are a due a performance.

    Hull by 10

    Like you say, we just can't hold the ball. It's not necessarily that we have a poor attack without those players playing, it's that we don't know his good the attack is because we never have the opportunity to do it as we keep dropping the ball! 

    Fix that and we'll start winning games.

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  8. 4 hours ago, Toby Chopra said:

    I don't think that's true, the academies we have now pick up every rugby league playing kid with genuine promise, and even most of those don't make it as pros. 

    The key to increasing the pool is to get more kids playing rugby league in the first place, particularly the athletic ones who end up choosing other sports 

    It's ultimately a numbers game, if we get more in, then we can increase the number of academies to cater for them.

    Making the game more available and attractive to young athletes and they identifying them and putting them on a development pathway in a quality environment is what will increase quality in the long run.

    There just seems to be this blanket idea that "more is good". I mean, it's not "bad" per se, but if they're all rubbish or have little promise, it doesn't increase quality. 

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  9. 5 hours ago, JM2010 said:

    It’s not as simple as that. More academies won’t increase the player pool unless the work is done at grassroots level to increase the number of kids playing the game

    And again, this falls into the myth that more players = better quality.

    The correct pathways, identification and quality competition is vital. 

  10. Looks like I'm in the minority, but I think this is a good move temporarily. 

    The quality of the league is decreasing. We struggle to field a league with 10 competitive teams, let alone 12. With NRL increasing, they are going to hoover up even more of our top English players, thus reducing the quality further with not as many quality English players coming through to replace them.

    There seems to be this myth that having our youngsters play more games is all we need to do to improve them. There is so much more to it than that. The quality of the environment they're playing in is massively important. They will not improve much if they're playing in a substandard competition alongside other low-level players. They need to be in higher quality environments with bigger competition for places. 

    People are arguing on one hand that we'll only get low quality players coming over, and on the other hand saying they'll take the places of our talent. Well if our talent can't displace low quality imports, that says a lot about the quality of our pathways. If we have talent, they'll push out untalented players. 

    This is without even considering the fact that we may be expanding to 14 teams soon and need even more players. 

     

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