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Wellsy4HullFC

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  1. 3 hours ago, Rovers13 said:

    Yea with a closed SL. How can you grow if no one will invest if you can’t go anywhere. 

    If a multimillionaire decided to invest in say Rochdale or Oldham, developed an academy pathway for their area, invested in the playing squad, marketed their brand to the locals etc, performed well on the field in a good facility then they'd be in. It's not closed. It just needs investment.

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  2. 20 minutes ago, EastLondonMike said:

    Agree it's nice. The hull FC one has gone up today too. And looks good IMO. clean and simple. They all fit into his caricature style - but nice nonetheless.

    Yeah I don't mind the Hull one. Simplistic is better these days. Lettering seems slightly too small though if I'm going to be picky!

    Shame our logo doesn't have much to do with the club identity and more the city. Don't think the Airlie Bird would look good on a logo! 

  3. 22 minutes ago, DI Keith Fowler said:

    I think that St. Helens one is brilliant. Not a fan of the shield they adopted always thought it looked cheap.

    The current Saints one is a mess. Way too busy. Their previous one was great, I've no idea why they felt the need to change it.

    Simple is better.

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  4. 2 hours ago, Barley Mow said:

    I assume that's in jest, but just in case it's not:

    The closest railway station to Leigh Sports Village is approximately the same distance as Craven Park is from Hull Paragon - does the fact the station isn't called Leigh matter?

    LSV is served by public transport - just bus rather than rail. It's also only about a 10 minute walk from Leigh's main bus station.

    I agree. Kick Rovers out too for no train stations in East Hull.

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  5. 3 hours ago, crashmon said:

    TBH I think Saints will have too much for cats anyway. I cant see a cats win here (I can however see KR beating the Pies tomorrow.)

    Think only Tolouse will be making a trip for a final to the UK

    If that happens, that's 5 finals in a row for Saints all against different opponents!

  6. Can't see plans for next year changing so soon. You can't restructure in an off season. Surely the interim solution is play 3x making a 24 game season, which is actually more games than last year?

    "Going to Cornwall twice" isn't exactly the stumbling block it's being made out to be (only half the clubs would need to do that), considering they won't be traveling to London nor West Wales as in recent years.

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  7. 2 hours ago, The Daddy said:

    It needs a Bernard Gausch, Derek Beaumont type person who sees the potential and wants to put their hands in their pockets. 

    It would be funding without return for a long time though, including no TV rights. They could do a Toronto I suppose and have the agreement that any future French based TV rights go directly to French clubs if they agree no British TV rights income. But I doubt you'd get many takers in the French game.

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  8. 3 hours ago, DI Keith Fowler said:

    Is there a quick win in just unilaterally declaring that Elite 1 and the Championship are two conferences of the same league with an 1895 cup competition shared between them? Functionally what difference would it make? You're probably not giving them any funding and they're unlikely to make up the points in the grading to get into SL anyway, but you've given them an avenue that might attract funding in the future and grow the game in France as a result. 

    If things just plod on as they are nothings lost anyway, apart from a bit of money spent on branding and a few flights for a cup competition that will at least now have a unique selling point other than bluntly being the Challenge Cup but for rubbish teams (my own being included here). 

    This links in slightly with my previous point. Is the point promotion? If promotion, to which league? SL or Championship? I don't think the latter could afford more foreign teams so would have to be the former.

    Then promotion to SL would be done through IMG grading. You'd need to decide how many points winning the French competition would be worth alongside the rest of the criteria. This would then bring into question whether a European Cup (or "cross-division") competition would be worth creating to include in deciding a club's playing points for this grading, thus creating an actual need for the games to be played.

    It would be a good way to give French clubs a meaningful avenue to SL without the need for them to go through the English systems directly. It would ultimately mean they'd need IMG approval to be promoted though, which would likely come down to French TV deals being attracted (which don't appear to be coming as yet). It would be difficult to deny a French team for too long however if they're regularly beating English clubs in a cup competition though.

    If we outright pull the gates up on further French clubs entering the top level of club rugby on this continent though, we've affectively killed off any further potential growth in France, which in turn prevents the desired Anglo-French international games being competitive anytime soon. So it's important to iron out a strategy rather than just hope.

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  9. Depends on what the structure would look like. The big issue appears to be travel, so the structure would need to minimise the need. French clubs traveling every other week is expensive. English clubs aren't happy traveling once, let alone more than once.

    Would the reason be for promotion? Or for competition? If the latter, then perhaps a small competition between the top teams during the season (1895 Cup for example). If the latter, end of season playoffs. And is that promotion to the Championship or SL?

    Regionalisation needs to happen (especially in UK), but at what level she how you'd achieve that is difficult. If it was at League 1, where would the extra clubs come from? Would you only fund the top clubs based on league positions? There's not enough to spread. Would you allow for the divisions to fluctuate in size depending on who gets promoted/relegated each year?

    A lot of questions, but definitely a solution somewhere.

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