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  1. 36 minutes ago, Cheshire Setter said:

    Looks like the rumours were over Charnley not Williams. Charnley is out of form this season anyway, so a chances for Lineham to redeem himself. He tends to be a big game player anyway.

    Charley would be very welcome back where he started, if Wire are losing faith in him... 

    I hope Wire win tonight, but they have of course to beware KR’s throw it anywhere style. I expect whoever wins to get to Old Trafford (if Sam T is injured, otherwise Cats will be there). 

  2. There is a danger in over thinking things. Wigan came into the season with a thin squad, lost their marquee prop, and then played every round. Why we didn’t play the COVID card to get some weeks off while everyone else pulled it off is beyond me. Madness. Lam compounded this because he didn’t trust the experienced big lads. We were also “unlucky” in that key strike players were injured for much of the year. We know this team can attack better than this. They were simply exhausted. However, they dug very deep indeed, to their immense credit. 

    It has been a very odd couple of years, and tbh I feel a great sense of relief that Lam’s tenure and these times are now behind us. Wigan will be fine. 

    As for Leeds, they have a lot of quality and Agar seems bizarrely to have become a decent coach somewhere along the way. The problem they face is that there is always a very clear advantage in a good team having a week off at this time of year, and so they will be clear underdogs in France. 

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  3. I read Rocket’s post with interest. I found it hard to recognise someone who “loves” our game, given that V’Landys has cut Australia away from international rugby league with a vicious disregard for every other country. He has treated us worse than he apparently treats the AFL. His vision is for the game to be played in West Sydney and South Queensland, and nowhere else. Which makes him the worst advocate for the game I can think of in my decades of watching it. Oh, and he’s a coward, as Simon Johnson said.

  4. 44 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

    Still not sure that this isn't a pitch.

    It is a lot more than that - and I appreciate that the comms could have been clearer for the UK audience. At this stage when awarding World Cups, the organisers go out and work out who will host the games. That bid process has been ongoing for months (with each region having to guarantee payments to the organisers). As I understand it, there are substantial budgets at local level in France to plough into sporting events in the relevant town/city/region. The level of proposals, each meeting the financial criteria, has been through the roof.

    This is one of the most important steps in underpinning the World Cup over there - it’s like our own Government guarantee, but in slices (and the French Government has confirmed its support as well). In contrast, when the US were awarded this World Cup they simply could not get these underpinning commitments, and so had no business case. It is a huge achievement. Jeu a trieze revient a la maison...  

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  5. 26 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

    Not 100% sure what the news is here.....

    ...is this a 'Oui, France would love to host the RLWC in 2025' or it is a definitive announcement that it will be hosted in France in 2025?

    The right to host the 2025 World Cup has been given to France. The extract above is an announcement of the towns and cities which have had bids accepted (and having to pay for the privilege) for the rights to host teams and games. The level of interest and buy in has been phenomenal. 

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  6. 3 hours ago, Cheshire Setter said:

    By the time the playoffs come around, games are usually tight and summer rugby is giving way to heavier pitches. Wigan are pretty awful compared to previous years, but I'm certainly not writing them off. All they have to do is have a couple of decent defensive performances in wet weather and they're at Old Trafford with their mojo restored.

    There is another factor which has tipped the balance in the last few weeks. While we have played more league games than anyone else, we are now playing teams who haven’t been able to play the COVID card for a while, and that is showing as there are 2 equally fatigued sides playing. We have a very talented squad, despite the visual and statistical evidence otherwise (fewer points than everyone aside from Leigh, having played more games...).

  7. I would be very happy to see him back over here. While the NRL is a parasitic leach on the game, someone with recent knowledge of training and recovery at the top level (and an address book) would clearly benefit us. If we go with Peet, we will clearly need some attacking input, and I would be delighted to get someone from the parasitic leach for that. 

    He would inherit a squad with masses of potential - “all” that needs fixing is the spine - we need 2 play makers to play alongside Smith, be they at 9, 13, 6 or 1. It is possible that we might go into 2022 with a spine of Powell, Smithies, Smith, Field and French. That would be repeating the same mistake as we made in the mid noughties. If, instead, we let O’Neill develop as an attacking hooker, and sign an organising 6 then there is very little wrong with the squad (I am assuming in writing this that the NRL props solve the lack of experienced go forward). 

  8. 12 minutes ago, The British Lion said:

    Apologies on the catch up. What did Lenagan and Radlinski say they offered Williams to go back to Wigan? And what's the reasoning why he didn't?

    They just said that he was offered the biggest contract in the 149 year history of the club. (I rather doubt that can be true, given how much Offiah and Hanley were taking home decades ago, when our wage bill was higher than now). Williams told Wigan that he wanted a new challenge. Rads surmised he was offered more money by Wire, as well. 

  9. 3 minutes ago, Pigeon Lofter said:

    Thinking Saints would trample Catalan with the score then at 30-12, I wandered off to have dinner-only to return when the post-match interviews were taking place 😂 and so missed all the late drama.

    Will Sky re-broadcast the game, be it highlights or otherwise? Thanks. 

    They are likely to put together a highlights package… just start watching at 75 minutes in. 

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  10. 2 hours ago, Scubby said:

    Where does Iain Thornley fit into this if you are losing the likes of Jackson Hastings, Oliver Gildart and Zak Hardaker? 

    Thornley for Gildart is not an exciting swap, but against that we needed to spend money on some big lads, so the money was better spent on 2 NRL props. We are replacing Hastings with someone, as yet unknown and if we lose Hardaker we will be able to replace him. If Field is any good (and wasn’t he playing in the NRL last year?) and French comes back fit and well, then we will still have some players who can entertain. Tbh, if we lose Hardaker and sign an attacking hooker, that would really lift morale. 

    If we had Maguire or Holgate coaching us, or someone else of that calibre, people would come out in bigger numbers again. Those coaches vastly improved the players available, and many of us believe there is a lot of talent in the existing squad, 

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  11. 2 hours ago, M j M said:

    I'm amazed if you're reassured by that. There didn't seem anything concrete about the future, plenty of pretending to take responsibility whilst not really doing so and a lot of wishful thinking.

    There is two things that matters in a business like ours - can you pay the bills, and can you invest in the team and its coach to the maximum allowed? On both counts we are fine - the Lenaghans will write cheques until the billionaire takes over. 
     

    It is an absurdly simple business - get the best possible coach and get entertaining players and the rest looks after itself. 

  12. That’s a cracking read. Good on them. I hadn’t quite appreciated how awful Latics have been, but that’s not surprising. Hopefully they’ll go bust again, Danson can spend some of his loose change on a new stadium and they can crash and burn. 
     

    The key new bit of info for me was the succession planning - ie all will be well even if we have a few more years of taking a bath. 

  13. I think Wigan will win this, as we are beginning to play teams who have recently played as frequently as we have. Plus, Lam’s position has been clarified, and IL has confirmed that our part owner billionaire is ready and willing to step up once he has finished his stint. We have not instantly appointed Wane and Peet, which is encouraging, and have made it clear we are very much in the market for someone to replace Hastings... So, all in all a very good week for the club. 

    It is a shame we will be watching Charnley and Williams (who was offered the most generous salary in the club’s history to re-sign for us) playing for the wrong side; they gave us a lot of good moments. 

  14. 49 minutes ago, M j M said:

    FFS do people really want two small leagues with convoluted cross league games that will mostly have only one winner?

    The sport is crying out for some stability and clarity of leadership and all we're getting are promises of more change, confusing league structures, less credibility and more loop fixtures.

    Just stop it will you.

    FFS, stop being so petty. It’s a perfectly reasonable suggestion. I appreciate that you might find it too confusing. But I am sure some grown up would be able to explain it to you. 

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  15. A few things on that: 

    - I am pleased he is in the position he is in, as he is sensible and loves our game; 

    - I agree with 2 leagues of 10 (and have long thought this was the way to go) - I would make sure there were cross league games every year, so that we knew there would always be a Bulls-Leeds, Leigh-Wigan, Cas-Fev game every year; 

    - I agree that the owners should talk up the game, even if many of us are as despondent as we have ever been, and agree with their dire warnings; and 

    - you may as well go to the bank as go to PE: there is no magic, they simply loan cash so you get a short term sugar rush paid for from “efficiencies” and “magic” improvements which good companies could have sorted out themselves. And then you have to pay the fiddler.

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