Exiled Wiganer
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Great momentum throughout that set of 6. Winning the rucks, quick ptbs and get them on the back foot.
Let’s go again.
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2 minutes ago, JohnM said:
Is there a competition here by some UK posters to belittle various England players? Is it a fashion to claim we're no good? FFS get behind your team!
I fear that a couple of them may genuinely have mental health problems. It is really sad to see.
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May I say that Clark has been great again. Indeed, there have been no weak links.
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Is he Wardle in disguise?
That was fine reward for a measured set by set period in which we wrested control.
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Just now, StandOffHalf said:
I mean, it was obvious that Nsemba denied Talagi from moving across...
Those defenders were in completely the wrong position. The second one should be ashamed of themselves. We have since shown that it was no fluke - our speed and execution out wide is the problem, not the ref.
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I had no idea we had so many Samoans in our TRL community.
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That pass to put him through was fantastic. Indeed, the sequence that lead up to it was superb. Smith is on it today.
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In Williams and Ashton Wire have 2 world class players.
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Brilliant kick and chase:
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That was diabolical defending from Samoa. Very well executed: come on England!
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45 minutes ago, Hopie said:
The Tonga that plays in Auckland is a very different one to the one that played in the North of England.
It’s really not. It’s just the whole “NRL = gods” lot can’t compute England’s excellence.
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38 minutes ago, hunsletgreenandgold said:
Lol - what did KPP do to deserve being dropped after another season in the NRL, that an under performing 32 year old Bateman didn't? Also did you forget Radley, Farnworth and Young?
Edit: I missed the SL reference so just realised it's all the NRL English players you've left out (although Bateman is too) - any reason?
I was simply picking a 17 without NRL players, to remind us that we get to see many of the world’s best rugby players over here. I should have made that clearer.
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A possible England 17 for the first test at Wembley:
welsby
Johnstone
Newman
wardle
ashton
williams
Smith
thompson
clark
havard
nsemba
bateman
minchella
(burgess - Lewis - McMeekin (sp?) - Knowles)
Putting the super into Super League.
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4 hours ago, Father Gascoigne said:
Sure, yeah, potential and reality can differ. On paper, though, providing one has knowledge of the NRL--which probably rules out the RU-types you were referring to--it's a who's who of incredible talent.
It's also probably a byproduct of lack of cohesion from minimal time together. And also that element of cramming so much talent in the same team that it hinders or stifles ball usage and creativity.
Then again, the Kangaroos play winning football. They don't really have any obligation to entertain. Similar to how many union fans seem to find the All Blacks uninspiring.
Why shoehorn the Vichies into a thread about sport? Am guessing this is not your first identity.
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Baby steps but this year has been a major step forward.
I know none of us wanted a men’s 10 team world club, but it’s looking increasingly like 26 could be a huge step forward from 08 and 17. -
2 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:
2 x 10's is a terrible concept, it needs filing vertically before any traction is done.
2 X 10 advocates - within which I would firmly place myself - are not a homogenous body. We are not the WDL.
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17 hours ago, Archie Gordon said:
I did suspect that.
I also suspect that every club got 0.75 points for TV since viewers got spread over 6 games.
One of the first rules of measurement is to differentiate ...
Give the lad a break, there’s a new Call of Duty mod just come out.
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Not sure where to post this, maybe I could start a new thread, but I suspect we will have a lot of evidence in a few weeks that the international game is on the march in terms of TV figures and crowds. It is all looking and sounding extremely positive. Not where we want to end up, but well on the way.
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1 hour ago, Dunbar said:
Can't argue with much of that. But this is the Internet so I am obliged to.
In all seriousness, the only point for me is the centres, I agree Wardle is world class but Farnworth is very special, he is as good an athlete as there is in world Rugby League right now and would be picked in any side, club or country. I would have Farnworth and Wardle with Newman as a very capable back up.
We end up with the same centres. I have seen far more of Wardle than Farnworth, so I was going from what I have seen. I am not going to die in a ditch over it. Moreover, there are many other England qualified players I have not seen that much of, so am happy to be proven wrong. If there are players out there better than Wigan’s best then happy days for England and TGG!
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I must apologise as one of the quirks of being able to watch every game is that I ended up watching all Wigan’s and Salford’s - as they were pretty much always exciting games - so had narrower exposure to other teams than in days gone by, so I would hesitate to comment on players outside those teams, but looking at Wigan’s players past and present:
Havard and Thompson are fantastic players, and can do long minutes without any drop in effectiveness. I would have them in my England team like a shot.
Wardle is a world class centre, and I would have picked him ahead of both those who played yesterday. They are both good players, but having seen Wardle every week, he is special. I think Farnworth is a better than Newman, but not much in it.
Marshall was also in the squad, and is a very very good player. However, Ashton’s international performances are so good as to make Marshall a long way away from the team.
I think Smith is terrific, but I think the Aussies would rather play against him than Lewis, so I would pick Lewis. A good problem to have though.
O’Neill could be our best hooker. He really is that good. Time will tell, and again another good problem.
Nsemba could be world class - certainly he is far better than KPP, who is very good. I think Bateman is pretty risk free, and am not calling for his head, but if the test is who would the Aussies fear more, then Nsemba for mine. But Bateman is a terrific player, and gives his all.
I think Williams is touching heights I didn’t think he had in him. The best international performance I have seen so far this year. More of the same, please.
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7 minutes ago, 17 stone giant said:
Let's just agree to give IMG the credit.
I tell you what, he’s intern of the week for thinking that one up.
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1 hour ago, StandOffHalf said:
That's not how I saw the opening 40 minutes as a whole, but cheers for your perspective.
If they can’t deduce they need to tighten up the ptb from giving away sets of 6 over and over the NRL is even further behind Super League than we all thought.
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The World Cup final was 30 - 10. Their 18 includes 12 from interceptions of course. A great deal to like from a superb team.
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One thing that pleases me is how evenly our world class talent is plead across Super League. With some NRL players also able to step up of course.
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Sat 2nd Nov: Men's International: England v Samoa KO 2.30pm (BBC One)
in The General Rugby League Forum
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This has been a great day for international league.
Samoa are a good side, and polishing them off 2 nil shows how much talent we have. And possibly that Wane is a better technical coach than had been hitherto apparent. Every England player we have seen over the last 2 weeks has shown themselves to be worth being in the mix for the Ashes, and the World Cup.
All our problems - with loads more good players likely to be in the frame next year - are very much good ones to have.
Again, this is proof positive that the players we see every week in Super League are supremely talented. We are lucky to watch the Greatest Game, and see world class players every week up here.