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Exiled Wiganer

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  1. On 08/12/2023 at 16:59, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

    I agree

    Same with union/RL tie in like cross code players 

    I a really think the main forum should include anything RL relate including NRL and cross code things 

    I don't think purely union topics that don't link to league should be before anyone moans 

    No. Let the truffle chasing fatties disappear to their own private hell. 

  2. On 07/11/2023 at 20:32, Charlie said:

    If you look back the original comment I responded to said they have the best, it’s since been edited to say one of. You can see from my original comment. Doesn’t matter now though 🤷‍♂️

    You could make an argument that Saints do have the best youth system in the world, if your key criterion is maximising the available talent, as Penrith have infinite resources to draw upon. 

  3. 1 hour ago, Padge said:

    Leigh didn't play the Kangaroos in 78 or 68, so Leigh didn't like most other teams play the touring side up to and including 82. From the 63 to 82 tours inclusive Leigh played Australia twice out of five tours or 2 from 4 if you discount 82 due to being in Div. 2.

    Just saying.

    If you have different stats I stand to be corrected.

    I went to the 82 match, and got Chris Anderson’s tie up after going onto the pitch, which I wore until it fell apart. I had asked for his top. 

  4. 15 hours ago, JohnM said:

    I read this as humorous,  meaning "Well, why not just play the fixtures as normal, as any other round, and just call it Magic Weekend." 🙂

    That was indeed my intent. Elland Road is simply giving up. It’s the RFL obligatory contract album.

  5. This will be the first WCC since we bought the ground, so I expect we will play it at home. The sense I get is that these games are largely the responsibility of the 2 teams involved (happy to be proven wrong), and everything I have seen and heard suggests that Wigan are now as well run and resourced (the latter being a matter of public record) as we have ever been and so I back us to make a great success of it. 
     

    I am hugely looking forward to it, especially as these games (and the international games) give us the perfect chance to demonstrate that we have a superb competition with superb athletes and put the NRLers = gods back in their box for a while. 
     

    More broadly, I would be delighted for this to be part of a structured and coordinated club and international calendar, and for the game to choose larger venues (noting that 25k will be a historically excellent crowd for this) as a matter of course, with the proviso that the game develops the skills to capitalise on it.
     

    Having watched Widnes beat Canberra in the best ever WCC at Old Trafford, we have aimed high in the past…

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  6. The heading for this thread made me nostalgic for where I was brought up. 

    There used to be a shop at the end of the road which was sometimes a hardware shop, sometimes a newsagents and sometimes (now) a cafe. People would tend to call the same shop different names from different eras - usually the name they knew it by when they were growing up - and so if you had a group of people from different generations, it could be called multiple names in the same conversation… Hence someone says JJB, I hear Piedome. 

    is that a local or a universal human trait? 

  7. 11 hours ago, Dave T said:

    The problem with that is that you are pretending that this ranking table is the work that IG are doing. That isn't true - that is actually IMG marking the game's homework. The work that IMG are doing and areas of focus for improvement are laid out in their documents. I won't bother writing them up here, because people are clearly ignoring them.

    Sorry, I was being glib. I am aware that IMG are doing far more than that. My frustration is a fundamental one - they can measure, they can add a gloss, they can re structure, but ours remains a simple business structure, with easily defined goals. My frustration arises because of my strong preference for our game to have such a high level of clear, confident leadership and quality of people in key positions around strategy and growing the game in house that they can do this themselves. I am yet to see anything in IMG’s scope of work or delivered product that couldn’t have been, and in my should have been done from within the game. 

    The RFL have only recently seemingly developed a commercial department, and the people on that board do not on the face of it have masses of experience in that field. We can’t even run a decent ticket system - when the game’s survival depends on selling tickets. Wigan sold 40k plus tickets for the Grand Final in a week, which saved their bacon, and yet they made buying them a deeply depressingly difficult experience. 

    It is just as well we have the greatest game and the best athletes on earth, because if we didn’t we would cease to exist. 

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  8. 28 minutes ago, Dave T said:

    I'm ok with the licensing approach, but there is plenty I don't like about this system that we have introduced (the fudge around P&R mainly) - but I actually think you are missing the point somewhat above. 

    The reality is that the grading system has broadly ranked clubs as you'd expect, maybe a couple of anomalies. The top 7 are clear of the others, but the next group are really much of a muchness. Leigh may be a bit harsh, but they have had one good season so far, their scores will improve if they continue. But with the group who are all within a point or so of each other, they are all pretty interchangeable. And that isn't because of the grading system, it's because that's the standard they are at.

    We really do have a few groups of clubs. The top 7. Then Salford to Bradford/Fev. THen Widnes to London, then the Grade C's. Broadly speaking, those groups are sensible when you look at them. Sure, I think there is some tweaking that is likely to take place over time, but it ultimately has ranked clubs broadly where you'd expect to see them.

    Isn’t the last sentence key? I simply see no need to pay IMG a fortune to come up with a list that pretty any non troll/Vichy on here could have come up with in a couple of days. You could have set it as a bronze DoE project for someone, and got the same result. The game needs a V’Landys to cut through everything and say - here’s the strategy, here’s what we’re doing, let’s sell it. Not a non leaguie lap top excel spread sheet jockey telling us what we already know. 

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