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  1. 1 hour ago, Damien said:

     

     

    is that not just Leyther_matt has copy and pasted from here rather than anything more official than what we have seen?

     

    Edit: Sorry hadnt seen already that Matt had admitted it... his press pass is surely in the post!

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  2. 12 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said:

    After the Leigh game on Saturday, a few of us were discussing having a weekend in Cork in November. One lad questioned whether we should hang on booking until we know more about the England games. Fair to say he was significantly outvoted. I barely missed an England game 2008-2020 but the apathy is contagious. And entirely self-inflicted. 

    Fair play.. its not even apathy its the inability to understand that the conversation you are having are being had by groups across the country and families who are all having to decide on holidays to get the longest run in to pay for them. Most summer holidays will already be booked and part paid for for families (probably months ago) so anything put on now in the holidays will be hit by that. Just a bit of forward planning and people will/can work around it, its really not that tough to understand. 

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  3. 29 minutes ago, RS50 said:

    Yes I've heard about suggestions to extend tram route to that area, but would probably take ages to plan, and even longer to construct.

    while i dont know how long these things take its about 2 miles from where the tram turns off Norton Avenue straight down Bochum Parkway to the ground, down the dual carriageway etc so I'm sure its not that big a job in terms of plans especially as it would be just continuing on what it does anyway. 

    They need to fix the way the road works for the retail park as the queues are horrendous at times but that needs to be done anyway regardless of whether this is given the go ahead or not.. 

  4. 14 hours ago, mozzauk said:

     

    Walking from where??? As the Ground will be a good 5 Miles from the City Centre, and even walking up from Woodseats is a long walk and is all uphill.... and you have to cross 2 very busy roads..  

    That all area cant cope with the current volume of traffic on a Sunday, already thanks to the Retail Park just up the road from the new ground... 

    And Chesterfield Road is a car park most days of the week...

    The only Public Transport is the buses some of which are very unreliable... 

    Also lets remember there will be more than just the Eagles on or Sheffield FC at the same time as during the summer there will be Cricket, the Sports Hall and other events going on at the location and around Meadowhead....

    i'm not sure if its in this proposal etc but I have seen it somewhere that there is a lot of support from the powers that be about extending the tram etc. The retail park is a bloody nightmare and who ever designed the road layout that was meant to "cope with it" needs their head read but its eminently fixable. 

    The thing it will do is breathe life into something that is dying at the moment so if people want a bit of life around them then they will go with it, otherwise it will just became wasteland (which may suit some). The traffic and road system needs sorting but that is not beyond the wit of man to do and often with these things there will be clauses in the build that include the infrastructure around it. 

    For all the issues which you raise, and are correct, there are relatively simple solutions if people want to solve the issues. 

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  5. 17 hours ago, going for the corner said:

    Is the Olympic legacy stadium capped at around 2k capacity?

    At the moment but it could be made bigger as there is space around it and banking at one side. However, this would take quite some investment and the original plans and funding arent there now that McCabe has fallen out with the fake sheikh at united etc

  6. On 18/03/2024 at 05:23, Farmduck said:

    Scotland should have been punted 10 years ago. One of the most basic requirements is having a regular comp of at least 4 adult teams. I don't know how often they've managed that. According to their site they didn't have a player of the year in 2020 or 2021 and they haven't announced the 2022 winner yet. Their 2023 season consisted of 9 games. Not 9 rounds, a total of 9 games.

    I believe I won it in 2022 when we went on holiday and me and my son were spotted chucking a ball around on the beach. He won the young player.. we arent even that proud of it!

  7. 4 hours ago, Coggo said:

    It's just not cricket....

    They play in Birmingham, so they should be called Birmingham.

    It's not like they'd lose thousands of fans from Worcestershire. 

    While that is a fair point, Iffleyfox has literally, in the post you quoted, explained why they may not gain any down the line. History, as always, will be 20-20, sadly when trying to make history you have to, sometimes, be pragmatic when there is no evidence which way is right and which way is wrong. 

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  8. On 06/03/2024 at 22:05, N2022 said:

    I'd say very nice despite it being O'Neills (or oneills as they seem to brand the kit now). Has often seemed a very amateur brand. Not knocking the quality, but it doesn't sound like a sports maker, more like a pub. They used to have the Irish font writing that made me think of Gaelic Football, nothing against it as a sport, but very minority participation, certainly here in England, and no real professional sports presence even in Ireland. It was a brand for uni kit and maybe tag rugby so just doesn't seem vaguely pro or high end. Good luck to them though. Rather see / be seen in that kit than most of the SL ones.

    And yet watching the NRL this morning penrith and Melbourne both have them...

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  9. On 04/03/2024 at 11:49, Sports Prophet said:

    I am no surgeon, but what I haven’t heard of is a study into the potential onset of CET on the general public.

    Now it may be so that in the short media articles I read about this subject, there is no discussion of the validation that CET is not just a random disease that comes with the onset of old age, it may well be assumed the reader will just take that for granted. However, I think it is important that we understand what the increased odds of getting CET are if you play various football codes. This can only happen with an unbiased review, similar to what was mentioned in the article that the majority of players currently donating their brain for study are the ones who suspect a problem, which may result in a bias.

    totally agree with you on this. I haven't seen much around how prevalent it is in the general society or a study around those that do have it and what they have done (not just contact sport) in the rest of their lives etc. Only going by what I have read it does not appear to be a comment form of "dementia" (I dont know where it fits on that type of scale) outside of having some brain trauma but to be honest its more a case of "reading between the lines" rather than the fact I have seen that written anywhere. 

  10. 17 minutes ago, Sports Prophet said:

    CET being raised at the start of the season.

    Aus Institute of Sport has conducted its own study which concludes with recommendations in excess to current NRL protocols.

    The NRL here are being criticised for not reviewing the recommendations and commenting on the report and outlining if their own investigations will be made or if they will or will not be proceeding with the recommendations.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-04/concussion-rears-its-ugly-head-again-but-are-the-codes-ready/103542426

    Its interesting becuase you cannot just ignore the science especially if the recommendations are in excess of what you have as that will leave you open to future law suits etc.. they will need to do their own studies that are peer reviewed etc that show that what they are doing is enough.. 

    someone in the scientific community is going to make a fortune out of all the research that is going to be needed over the next 10 years or so to either prove or disprove or just go around in circles.

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  11. On 29/02/2024 at 22:51, DoubleD said:

    It’s a content filler for the international break and provides clubs with revenue streams for the 3 weekly period. Fans absolutely won’t want to see weakened teams put out for league games during this period

    Just play an "in season comp" with normal rules and let youngsters have a crack, may show who the next generation are and some will surprise you.. young players need injuries suspensions to be given their shot an awful lot of the time lets just build 3 games in where they can do that.

  12. 14 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

    The technology is fine, it's the panel I struggle to understand.

    bar the Harry Smith one, which is a fair comment, are there really that many examples of things they shouldn't have looked at but did and banned, or those that they didnt look at that they should? When you look at loads of the incidents you can see exactly what the issues are, and if the players just stopped doing them (as pretty much all are choices) then they wouldnt need to sit there doing this. 

  13. 57 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

    I watched the game and if you would excuse me I would not wish to do so again, I never noticed it live but just wanted to see the incident - just like many adjudications by the panel when all the match day officials, anyone in attendance and opposing teams have not complained about anything, that we have this trial by video, is this to create fines to put more money into the coffers?

    I imagine the panel sat there like a group of Dawson and Barraclough's Cissie and Ada character's "Oooh did you see that" when watching match videos.

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    Trial by video is fine as it also works the other way and if the offence isn't actually that serious then that can be show too. If people just stop doing these things then there would be less to worry about. Not sure why the criticism is of the technology etc and not of the players TBH.

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  14. 42 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

    If it is the Liam Sutcliffe one then video is on this page.  He was running behind the ref for 10 / 15 metres with his head clearly in the direction of the ref so not unsighted.  The referee did not change direction.  There is no way the player should have collided with him.

    https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/watch-liam-sutcliffe-incident-hull-9125424

     

    he could definitely have avoided him.. 

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  15. 11 hours ago, Damien said:

    I'd be happy with this. I'm not even particularly fussed on if the Aussies want a game and it's just a case of 3 internationals over the SOO weeks. This is what the previous NRL administration was after moving towards and makes so much sense. It benefits everyone, Australia keeps SOO, the other countries get games and RL gets far more internationals. The NRL even suffers anyway during SOO and plenty moan about how it affects the competition.

    This... 

    3 breaks, if aussies want to do SOO rather than internationals then go for your life.. but at the moment they are stopping other countries from having any opportunity to do this with their actions.. they can still make sure all eyes are on SOO by having it on a weekday before the "break weekend" as well if they wish I am sure other countries don't want to battle SOO for viewers but it does seem as though its a selfish act from the aussies that its ok for players to play those extra games as long as it benefits them (and before anyone says it i do understand its their comp etc etc) but there is a whole "benefits all will benefit them" argument to this too. 

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  16. 11 hours ago, Lowdesert said:

    From what I can see Clubs have been consulted but at different levels.  So many players wouldn’t be up in arms about this otherwise and wouldn’t be getting punished with bans and fines.

    The galling thing for me is that if the Laws had been officiated correctly, over the years, then much of this would be already addressed.  Instead we had the half hearted attempts of a few years ago where clubs complained of the officiating and the rfl eased off.  To add to that, players wouldn’t have been practicing hitting ball carriers high, holding them up and then wrestling them to the floor before more wrestle.  Cultures like this can’t be changed quickly, yet just this week an accidental clash between a player and a referee has been punished with a fine and a ban.  Just seems that some punishment is being meted out without considering enough human factors.

    I do agree with the last paragraph 100% they have been too weak in the past and bent to the clubs, it would not surprise me (but my memory of the era is fading away) if that had been the case in the period of the likes of Fozzard and be used as proof ie you knew there was an issue, you put in rules but you did not enforce them and that is therefore liability.. in a business sense HSE legislation is there, businesses have procedures, people can break the rules but if the company turns a blind eye it is then on them, if they "punish" then the responsibility for the breach is all on the person breaching.

     

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  17. 16 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

    Hi RP, if player's duck into a tackle how does the tackler readjust if he has already committed himself to hitting the defender in the torso region? What if the tackler doesn't move and stands upright as Tom Amone did and the attacker doesn't go low and runs into defender effecting a head clash subsequently tackler gets a 2 match notice? There are tackles that simply cannot be delivered around the leg area because of the proximity of the attacker to the defender.

    if this is the one you mean 

    Then it deserves a penalty and perhaps a card as they are trying to clamp down (dont know what his previous is like but that does affect the ban).. He has gone in bolt upright. not the slightest bit of a duck to make the tackle, the attacking player is running in upright (we dont want them to duck into the tackle) and therefore there is a clash of heads.. its not a big one granted but it is still one and if Tom Amone bends his back even slightly to get his head down he is ok, tackle is made and there is no issue and that is what we need to encourage. If he is bolt upright that could be a lot worse, frankly for both parties. He had the time, he wasnt stepped, the attacking player just ran straight in.

    For me that one is on Amone, the rule is there and he has plenty of opportunity to change his angle of tackle. 

    application of the rule by the ref or the bans by the MRP are different from the rule itself as we are seeing at the moment with the Nu Brown incident. 

     

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  18. 10 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

    Hi RP, if player's duck into a tackle how does the tackler readjust if he has already committed himself to hitting the defender in the torso region? What if the tackler doesn't move and stands upright as Tom Amone did and the attacker doesn't go low and runs into defender effecting a head clash subsequently tackler gets a 2 match notice? There are tackles that simply cannot be delivered around the leg area because of the proximity of the attacker to the defender.

    If the player has gone around the torso and the attacker ducks into it then there are mitigating factors to the tackle and it is graded accordingly by the RFL and is not as serious as straight on tackles to the had and not treated as such, it is laid out IIRC in some of the posts on here about the way they go through the process, it is certainly laid out in the actual documents if not reproduced on here.. they have thought about this. IMHO I would penalise the attacker as RU do which has meant less people risk it. 

    I havent seen the Tom Amone one and cannot, from the description you have given, picture it so will just not comment and see if i can find it when i have a sec. 

    On your last sentence we are not asking them to deliver tackles around the leg area, just not around the head.

  19. 4 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

    Just caught up with this, what a load of sense Mr Powell says, "how am I supposed to coach how to tackle a player who puts his head down there".

    So let's add another law just as daft, if a player takes evasive action by ducking yellow card him/her.

    In Union it is supposed to be a penalty for anyone ducking into the tackle (this is at age grade and community game due to the sternum tackle rule), unless you are within 5 of the try line. It has IMHO stopped some of this but it hasn't been strictly enforced by the refs, equally I haven't seen head highs coming from it becuase the players themselves have readjusted. 

    IMHO there is a lot of knee jerk reaction to this at the moment. The rules are there for a reason and players need to adjust. If there are constant issues due to these rules then that is different and the RFL seem to be looking at these, but equally the players do need to adjust themselves and some of the tackles while not being viscous have been reckless and while there is the argument of "best players on the pitch" that surely has to count for players getting injured through reckless, needless tackles. 

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  20. 59 minutes ago, Archie Gordon said:

    The hosting fee does seem to be the profit, yes (give or take). That much is probably true (though not clear from this report).

    But the IRL (UK) doesn't have £3.5m in the bank - the fee has just filled a hole.

    totally understand what you are saying. My point is that  its still profit from a world cup that apparently didn't make any profit and surely just shows that we need events like that making money like that to fill the holes or to bolster the coffers. 

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  21. 3 minutes ago, jim_57 said:

    I’ve thought for a while a French “Magique” day could work. Pick one of Paris, Toulouse, Marseille, Lyon, Montpellier etc. Triple header Elite 1 game then Toulouse and Catalans playing English sides. Something like:

    Carcassone V Albi
    Toulouse V Leeds or Bradford (depending on which league they’re in)
    Catalans V Wigan

     

    Could do something similar in places like Newcastle or London really, play the local team as a curtain raiser to one or 2 Super League games.
     

    Some strategy would have to go in to it to try and attract news fans though, how exactly is the million dollar question.

    Edit: sorry ignore me I was thinking the Elite 1 teams.. 

  22. 6 minutes ago, Derwent said:

    The accounts for Rugby League World Cup 2021 Ltd were filed at Companies House a couple of months ago. They were the operating company for the world cup. They paid hosting fees etc to the IRL. So all of the actual income and expenditure relating to the physical staging of the tournament is within the RLWC 2021 Ltd accounts.

    would those not also include this £4m payment to the IRL for hosting and therefore the RLWC made a "profit" of £3.5m when you take that one off payment to the IRL out of it.. I assume RLWC 2021 LTD now gets wound down therefore if they hadn't paid the IRL earlier they would do now so the above, while "creative" in an accounting point of view, is not wholly untrue

  23. 14 hours ago, JM2010 said:

    Maybe SL should just target 2 or 3 areas over a 5 year period and play all the ‘on the road’ games there throughout the season. Push the game and SL in these areas to create a bit of a following, school and community club development and maybe even some tier 3 academies linked to SL clubs. Areas with potential, population, some development already and a lower league club or Southern Conference club already in the area. For example, London, Newcastle/NE and maybe somewhere closer to home like Manchester, Liverpool or Sheffield could be targeted 

    IF it were to be done, and I'm not sure of its merits, but that is exactly the way I would do it.. 5-10 years though or its just not going to do anything at all. 

  24. On 25/02/2024 at 09:09, PREPOSTEROUS said:

    In Currie's case, there are photos showing was he was holding his head, but the premise of what your are worried about is valid. We saw this with neck rubbing after a tackle. Percival being a prime offender, to get the refs attention, more so when a video ref was present. 

    Its all on the MRP. They can nip this in the bud with how they handle the situation. If they double down then the slightest brush of head could see players staying down to get that advantage. The one hope I have is that the that players all seem equally dismayed by the decision so collectively they could self police each other.

    is this not what the green card was supposed to stop.. if you go down holding something then you go off the pitch for 1 or 2 minutes (not really sure).. that means if the decision doesnt go your way all you are doing is putting your team down to 12 for 2 minutes and therefore should stop players milking it.. or at least that was the idea.. i think i've seen 1 used so far.

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