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  1. 3 minutes ago, Martyn Sadler said:

    From what I understand, TNT are interested in creating a dedicated rugby channel, which we've never had on Sky.

    IMG are actively talking to them about how this might work and how the two codes might be integrated on the channel.

    One advantage of this is that it would require more content than we currently see on Sky, which would presumably give some scope for magazine programmes, which in my view we urgently need.

    It would also presumably make it easier to appeal to viewers whose first love might be rugby union, but who might be persuaded to give our game a try.

    If the RFL does move to TNT, or to any broadcaster other than Sky, I believe they would be looking for a lengthy contract, perhaps ten years, at the end of which the broadcasting landscape might look very different to the way it looks now.

    But it isn't a done deal yet.

    All of that sounds positive. If there is a TNT Rugby channel then we could, at least, guarantee a presence in RU social clubs.

  2. 9 hours ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

    What got me with the water reasoning was that you can't take bottles in so you can't chuck them at players but they are gonna sell bottles inside for you to chuck at players! Unless they are glued to your hand when purchased! 😂

    But yes, its obviously just another exercise in money-grabbing. £10 a bottle in a heatwave. Let's have water breaks for players because its gonna be boiling (even though that's all about making the game into quarters so American tv can have more adverts) but force fans to go into debt in order not to die of dehydration!

    The rest of it makes sense but we have water breaks in football already and they are absolutely necessary in this World Cup.

    The only way to change it is to move to a stop/start clock and most people are against that as well.

  3. 12 hours ago, N2022 said:

    Is it just saturation? BBC showing some friendlies this week and Wales v Ghana seems not to have 5000 in attendance.

    They're saying 11,000 with 2,000 supporting Ghana. No idea if that's right but these end of season games where the home side is literally just providing a contested training session for a side actually going to the World Cup will never enthuse most people.

  4. 37 minutes ago, JM2010 said:

    Coggo has got a point though. I’m all for SL clubs putting on events but I would like to see these events as part of a long term strategy to spread the game of RL to new fans, sponsors and increase the amount of kids playing the game

    That’s on the RFL and Super League. The clubs are allowed to do what they think is best for themselves.

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  5. 21 minutes ago, Gorbals said:

    Regarding the attendances held by Brent Council:

    The General Safety Certificate issued by Brent Council to WNSL (Wembley National Stadium Ltd) requires WNSL to keep a record of the number of spectators attending each event held there. The Sports ground’s Safety Officer submits a report to the council after each event containing this information and we store this information electronically

    Interestingly (well, kind of), It would be a criminal offence for the safety officer to supply Brent Council with false records, but not for Brent Council to provide incorrect records in response to an FoI request

    Presumably, the FoI is only ever required to pass on the data held, not interrogate whether that data is correct.

  6. 7 minutes ago, RugbyLeagueGeek said:

    Went to the game on Saturday, and as an event it was pretty poor. The game was what it was, but there was nothing else going on at all to make it feel special. Does anyone know why the women's game kicked off so early at 11.45? Magic Weekend allows 2.5 hours between KO times, so heaven knows why they needed over 3 hours in between games - it hardly encourages fans to get in early. 

    Because it could easily go to extra time and needs a trophy presentation.

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  7. 21 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

    This comes back to the problem we face though, what are we selling them?

    How many of those people would be interested in attending the EFL play off final between Hull and Middlesbrough? I'd argue not many. They have the benefit of having enough people interested in that and willing to travel to make it worthwhile though.

    So we can't just say here's 2 teams you've not heard much about from a league you barely notice if at all and likely nobody in your wider circles interacts with that are all miles away anyway and would you like to pay to come watch?

    The value proposition has to be different, as does the proposition itself frankly.

    I suspect we are years if not decades behind in doing the actual work for this sort of project.

    Well, to not-quite-quote-myself, what I'd be selling them is a standalone men's fixture with some wraparound entertainment built into the day. A band or two, a mini Gladiators (or equivalent), and some community engagement that draws families (dance off or somesuch).

    This wouldn't be at the expense of what we do to existing fans because we know that we will get an attendance of roughly 50k(*) from them almost regardless. But finding an additional 10k from London and then adding in future years ... that's the way forward for Wembley.

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  8. 27 minutes ago, phiggins said:

    Oh, agree completely with that. Just saying that cost of living will restrict the numbers that we can convince to travel to Wembley out of the existing population. 

    So we need to attract new people and increase that population.

    There is one group for whom the cost of living with be £0 (or, essentially, baked in as £0) and that is people who live and work in Zones 1-6 who travel most days.

    There's about 9 million people in that area - I'd say around half will be in that group. So 4.5 million people for whom getting to Wembley is essentially free and not remotely a faff. The people for whom it's really only the cost of the ticket.

    If I were serious about increasing the attendance next year, that group would be pretty much my sole focus.

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  9. 1 minute ago, Ivarr the Boneless said:

    It's not off the table, it remains under active consideration. If it goes off the table, that's the real crunch point. Though TBH if the vibe becomes very strongly 'it's not very likely', that could have the same impact.

    Re money / TV deal. The NRL deal would provide money. Hence why Team 15 is very unlikely if that deal doesn't happen. The NRL have long term plans re the TV deal. Not convinced by them myself, however they probably have access to much more detailed market research than me. I'm happy to give them the benefit of doubt on that aspect.

    There are no further discussions at this time. That is not active consideration. That is long grass territory.

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