[Fri 22nd Mar-Sun 24th Mar: The Betfred Challenge Cup Sixth Round Match Thread]

3 minutes ago, soulboy said:

A large empty stand .

Appallingly viewing figures .

The media airbrushing of the sport continues.

What does airbrushing mean in this context?

[Fev not paying staff]

6 minutes ago, roversspud said:

You said it was because Fev hadn't paid the players that Fev didn't get promotion .

I said it was a legitimate possibility that not being paid what they believed they were owed could have an impact.

The way to avoid that is to sort it out so you don't get chased for moneys owed.

[Fev not paying staff]

2 minutes ago, roversspud said:

There's only you saying it was an issue this time.

This entire thread is about Fev not paying people.

Fev were also not promoted.

You can't say Fev tried to buy promotion when they missed out the paying for purchases part.

I think it's pretty fair to say that a set-up where people are not getting the money they expect will, eventually, turn into an unsuccessful set up.

[Fev not paying staff]

3 minutes ago, Fevrover said:

That's pure speculation from you ,you don't know that for certain. Only the players know.

It is speculation.

Next time pay the players and it won't be an issue.

[Fev not paying staff]

3 minutes ago, The Blues Ox said:

How about my other posts in the same thread? Its very clear what I think of Fev not paying players.

And yet you don't blame them. They are just fragile victims in a cruel world.

[Fev not paying staff]

3 minutes ago, Fevrover said:

So we didn't win promotion because we didn't pay the players?

Well, you didn't win promotion because of a spectacular loss of bottle when it counted. Maybe something in the players' minds meant the match didn't have their full focus.

[Fev not paying staff]

1 minute ago, Fevrover said:

Dress it up how you want it's buying promotion buying lots of players, just didn't work out for Fev.

Maybe if they'd paid them they would have been able to buy promotion.

[Fev not paying staff]

2 minutes ago, Fevrover said:

So didn't Leigh buy promotion ? Or were they all home grown ?

You're not buying promotion if you miss out the part where you pay for services rendered.

[Fev not paying staff]

3 minutes ago, The Blues Ox said:

Great context.

Your post was justification for that point of view.

[People who are alive but you thought they had died]

There is one person alive who can claim to have been a silent film star. 

[Fev not paying staff]

1 hour ago, The Blues Ox said:

Although I think its awful what Fev have done regarding missing payments I also find it hard to really blame them

Staggering.

Clubs stiffs players but, yeah, it's fine. No biggie.

[Premier Sports offer to broadcast all Championship games]

27 minutes ago, Griff said:

When did Bradford lose its city status?

Are you not aware of the 1911 FA Cup winners, Bradford Large Town FC?

[Fev not paying staff]

2 minutes ago, phiggins said:

No it's not, but it does feel like John Davidson is milking what is essentially one story (Fev defaulted on payments to players and agents with a serious allegation on pension payments thrown in, based on one player quote) for as many articles as he can. I don't particularly have a problem with that though.

But the silence from the RFL is deafening. 

Rather like the Toronto players, I don’t have a problem with journalists using their platform to keep the non payment issue to the fore. But there should be some official response by now.

[Premier Sports offer to broadcast all Championship games]

Just now, Tommygilf said:

Is it? SL brings in more than the lions share.

This formula gives security to Championship/League 1 clubs if they bring in no money, but at the cost that any they do bring in is to be shared upwards too. Its a compromise they've had to go for given their meagre incomes over the past few years.

It is baffling because, given the amounts will always be small, it makes it essentially not worth the Championship’s time and effort in obtaining deals if 3/4 of it will be taken from them.

[Premier Sports offer to broadcast all Championship games]

Just now, Tommygilf said:

From the report it suggests that it applies to all commercial TV deals brought into the game.

Yes. Apparently so. Baffling.

[Premier Sports offer to broadcast all Championship games]

5 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

To be fair Sam, how many Championship games do you attend in enough numbers to make a fair comparison, from my expierience as a regular attendee both home and away the move from Sunday afternoon 3.00 kick offs to 20:00 Monday evenings was telling, how many would travel cross Pennine Monday's as opposed to Sunday's I didn't.

That’s why Monday evenings are specifically excluded from this deal.

[Premier Sports offer to broadcast all Championship games]

1 minute ago, Adelaide Tiger said:

It will be interesting to find out what the financial support is to make all grounds ‘broadcast ready’.

However, if the deal goes ahead and the income is spilt 78, 13, 9 split in favour of SL then simple math shows that each SL club would receive £3250 in year 1 rising to £6500 in year 3.  Surely, for an elite league these amounts are simply minuscule.

Here is a radical idea …. let the Championship clubs have the money!  

Doesn't the 78/13/9 apply to the Sky deal? For this deal, all the money would go to the Championship clubs?

[Dentists]

1 hour ago, JohnM said:

What did you get done for £70? Private or NHS? We're with a My Dentist practice and NHS checkups are about £25.

https://www.mydentist.co.uk/patient-information/nhs-treatments-and-costs

If it's part of the same treatment, then you just pay once.

As you know.

[Dion Aiye]

23 minutes ago, sam4731 said:

If you're on a community service order, I presume you probably have to be supervised at all times.

Good point.

[Dion Aiye]

Just now, sam4731 said:

Surely the club can make him work for their foundation (do they have one?) for free, as part of club ordered community service though.

The club should punt him in the nuts and send him on his way. How's he going to pass a DBS for working for a foundation?

[Televised games this forum and Sky]

5 minutes ago, Archie Gordon said:

Tbf, it was hard to comment when the forum was down.

And then several hours before it went down were deleted too as they weren't part of the back up.

[Dion Aiye]

2 minutes ago, phiggins said:

It's a good point. Maybe driving convictions are treated separately to other convictions. Not saying that should be the case, but it's the only reason I can think of.

Driving offences are treated differently to other offences when it comes to DBS, or what you have to declare to employers. That could be the reason.

[Ireland, Scotland, Italy and Lebanon demotion]

25 minutes ago, Damien said:

I had a feeling it would be that way round.

[Fev not paying staff]

21 minutes ago, David Shepherd said:

Ageing like a kipper behind a radiator.

This is all so desperately depressing. I've been obsessed with this club since I was about 5. Can't remember a lower feeling than this.

And this is why this sort of behaviour stinks. The ones who allegedly did the things they are alleged to have done will get to walk away and probably move on to something decent. The club and the supporters of the club are the ones left to deal with the fallout.

[Fev not paying staff]

Just now, phiggins said:

As rubbish as that is, I'm not sure how one club seeking staff on a voluntary role has anything to do with another club not paying people that are contracted to receive a salary.

It’s poor from the Giants and speaks to how little money is in the game. But, you’re right, it’s not like taking multiple people on professional contracts and then simply not paying them.