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gingerjon

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  1. 10 hours ago, doc said:

    Wales v Western Samoa @ Vetch Field Swansea, 1995 World Cup. 

    That would probably count as the best atmosphere I've ever been involved with whilst only watching on TV.

    Student bar. Mix of English and Welsh. Only a handful of RL supporters. By the end, it felt like hundreds of people all entirely involved with the game.

  2. 2 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said:

    You’ve ended the timeline at a convenient point there though!

    What about the late 80’s and early/mid 90’s?

    A quick glance at the best ever games thread suggests there were plenty of happy memories of GB around that time period.

    Because we’re all, broadly, a certain age

  3. 2 hours ago, Tommygilf said:

    He is immensely risk averse, which to be fair has served him well. Teams go far in tournaments by not losing and he is clearly a fan of playing the percentages at the international level. 

    Tactically I think he is very limited, though arguably that is the nature of international football vs club football with the amount of time a coach has with his players. He clearly is defensively minded.

    I do find it very frustrating that we can have some incredibly talented players like Bellingham, Grealish and Foden, an embarassment of riches most countries would want, that appear to consistently be stunted by the style of play. 

    I don't blame him for being loyal to the players he has been loyal to, they have served him well and are his men. He's clearly also a man who understands that the best on field 11 players or best 24 for a squad don't necessarily equate to most success. He's picked "good tourists" and dumped those who have stepped outside of that - Ben White for example. Talent isn't everything to him, and it has made the England team feel much more likeable than it has appeared in the past 2 decades or so.

    Its been more successful than any approach before or since (save one tournament in 1966 or maybe Italia 90). In 2018 he had the benefit of low expectations. In 2020(1) we reached the final and got beat by a similarly defensively minded side, 2022 we only just got beat by arguably the best squad in the world. We also won a penalty shoot out in 2018 - so he's doing something right.

    Its difficult to say what happens next really. England are one of the best in Europe and the World, certainly good enough to win international tournaments. Southgate's style seems to get us to these big games, but I'm not convinced it allows us to win them.

    Agree with that - it's also worth saying that Italia 90 (I believe before your time) saw England limp out of the group stage, and then squeak past Belgium and Cameroon before playing 1 (one) good game that they lost on penalties but should have won. They were mostly really not very good in it.

     

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  4. 39 minutes ago, Dave T said:

    And then the Tonga series was lacklustre at best.

    It had to be used as a shop window to entice countries to want to visit and instead it was yet another example of 'will this do' and on the cheap.

    We saw the kind of show the NRL expects with the Vegas event. It could never have been as good as that but it could have headed in that direction.

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  5. 2 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:

    Post Covid we have seen a Men’s and Women’s RLWC in 2022 and in 2023 we had two men’s Pacific Tri-nations tournaments, women’s test matches and an England v France test as well. I don't think this constitutes “Covid appears to have ended the international programme” does it?

    Yes, I was mimicking the idea that Covid is a valid reason for our current pathetic position.

  6. Just now, Padge said:

    He has to have evidence it isn't a try, obvious evidence. Blurred slow mo doesn't give that, you need high speed cameras that show clear frame by frame.

    When refs didn't give an opinion people complained, when refs give an opinion people complain.

    You can't have both, and one or the other is going to anger people.

    It wasn’t a try. The blame is with the RFL and the officials for obvious no tries being given as tries. It has nothing to do with fans complaining.

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  7. 12 minutes ago, Dave T said:

    Covid has clearly been a huge issue here ...

    I follow a lot of sports. Far too many. It is only rugby league where Covid appears to have ended the international programme. Even baseball, which could have ditched its World Baseball Classic, gave it a couple of years and put it back in the schedule.

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  8. 9 minutes ago, Dave T said:

    This year is an appalling car crash ...

    It's the slow mo running over from Austin Powers. This has been seen coming. There is nothing happening this year that could not have been predicted last year or that didn't have enough warning the year before.

    It is the fact that none of that has been addressed that leaves me feeling that multi year calendars are just words put out in press releases and nothing more. There is nothing substantial to any of it.

  9. 11 minutes ago, Dave T said:

    That's fine, but you have to accept that you're not the type of person to ever want a 10 year calendar or similar. 

    Announcing a long term calendar is quite different to having tickets on sale. 

    I want both. Right now, we have vagueness about the future, and nothing for the present.

    That's an appalling state to be in.

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  10. 2 minutes ago, sam4731 said:

    A lot of people spouting a calendar that is set in stone but beyond someone typing a fixture out on a computer

    They tore up the last one - which confirmed a whole bunch of structured games for European nations - even after it had been confirmed. That was the one which had an England team - never decided as either Knights or firsts but presumed Knights - playing in a European Championship.

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