gingerjon
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2 hours ago, Celtic Roosters said:
Going to be an awful lot of upset people on this forum now. LOL!
Yes. This rugby league forum hates seeing rugby league clubs continue to exist.
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16 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:
No go for it, do you remember all the derision on these pages when a team in Wigan Borough decided to change their name, no one can now say that hasn't worked.
Big fan of Halifax Blue Sox?
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4 minutes ago, THE RED ROOSTER said:
If posters actually know anything about the history of Plough Lane ...
It's pretty well known that the current Plough Lane was built by the community loving AFC Wimbledon on top of a loved community asset: the greyhound track.
As a name London Hounds sounds awful, It's a really jarring combination to have to express. Say it out loud, it's really jarring.
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1 hour ago, Archie Gordon said:
The name/branding doesn't matter. So far GH has shown he has little idea of what he's taken on. It's all been from the DH playbook.
I feel like with Hetherington and Wood, we're doing a lot, in the absence of anything changing with the organisations they're now at, of basing views on past performance.
The current Broncos look more inept, or certainly no less inept, than at any time during Hughes's reign.
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8 minutes ago, JonM said:
Seems like the third time they've played this week, with another fixture planned for this evening. I'd suggest not clicking on the adverts for live streaming of the game though
I really hope it's something like this:
This is a bit bleaker https://www.france24.com/en/sport/20240412-french-women-cricket-team-disbands-probe-fake-matches-france-icc
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Incidentally, I should say that I think the Stobart deal could have worked. But it, like the Papa John's one, is a good example of how, as a sport, we're culturally programmed to mock corporate partnerships rather than work with them in a positive way.
I have no issue with Wood being in favour of it.
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6 hours ago, M j M said:
Pretending a claim on the internet is "fact" despite it going counter to what multiple people say who were actually involved in Rugby League management at the time and who literally were spoken to by Lewis about it.
There is months of coverage across legacy media, social media and broadcast media. All of it led by Wood's voice, as RFL Chief Executive, in praising the deal and even attributing a value to it so that it is higher than the Betfair alternative.
The fact that there was an alternative, but that he, as Chief Executive, lobbied in favour of Stobart, leads me to think he was in favour of Stobart.
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4 minutes ago, Dave T said:
Unfortunately, there ain't much to talk about.
Although we can comment that this 3m review now being scheduled to take 8m isn't a great start.
Have they sorted Salford out then?
We must have loads of new sponsors.
Bet that Challenge Cup triple header day worked well, and if it didn’t, they’ve got a plan to address all aspects.
Good to have corrected all that nonsense about under promoting the women’s game and it keeping it invisible.
Also, well done them for fixing the recruitment of refs and ensuring the community game can do a proper national spread.
Or is this, as ever, all about a handful of clubs on the first/second tier divide.
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Fascinating.
Now about the complete and total failure *in the present* …
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1 minute ago, Tommygilf said:
So in short, the good things he did had no legacy or backing within the wider sport so fell apart after he left (Internationals, super 8s, expansion clubs) or at best stagnated (Magic Weekend).
Sounds like no strategy to me...
His legacy is that nothing positive he did had a lasting impact.
Apparently.
Either way, let’s talk about the here and now …
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1 minute ago, Dave T said:
I must admit, im not really seeing that about Nigel Wood. It does appear to be a Martyn thing on here.
I'm not seeing much at all, which is also kind of my point.
It does fit with an issue I've had with RL reporting in particular for a long time - the RL (social) media cannot do detail, has very little real memory, and prefers to gossip about never-never land (here's a trite response to a question about the NRL buying SL which will now become the focal point for weeks) over anything more substantial.
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6 hours ago, Dave T said:
The problem is, when something is so biased and one sided, it does become meaningless.
To an extent.
But, by audience, the cherry picking, deliberate silence and fudging, combined with “Nigel wouldn’t have done that” from the rest of the RL media sphere is more damaging.
Not least because they are supporting a group who have no clear goals, appear intent on wrecking the 12 year deal we do have, have missed their one self imposed deadline, and who have proven that they can’t understand basic legal documents. All whilst not resolving apparently core issues like Salford.
Like I say, we can debate Woods (and everyone’s impact on the past) - I think it’s much more debit than credit - but we should focus on the present.
My entirely sceptical view is that the reason to hold off lazily until December is because Woods wants the bounce of three full stadiums from the Ashes, and a possible England win, to make popular “his” work and whatever the review wants to put in place. (And a loss also gives him a framework of “popular sport but things need changing again”).
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2 hours ago, Griff said:
What about Harry's bus?
More seriously, the games would massively overrun, which would be disastrous for Sky or the BBC. We don't have the clout of American football.
I believe, when AFL moved to a stop/start clock, that they altered the number of minutes the clock ran for.
So you don’t demand 80 minutes, yet set it at 60 but stop/start as necessary.
(if you do it. I’m not that bothered. Time wasting is a very minor issue in our game)
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21 minutes ago, Dave T said:
I must admit, I think that's a poor, one-sided version of events that is so blinkered it makes it worthless really.
There is plenty to criticise Wood for, but Davidson and articles like that are poor imo.
I found it an amusing corrective.
But we don’t need to discuss history. They, led by Wood, are a laughing stock and failing in the present.
And, of course, the client press who tag along have, finally, revealed themselves to be not up to any journalistic task.
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2 hours ago, JohnM said:
Add that to the i newspaper picking up the Wood story from John Davidson, so giving us the coverage in the national media we have so craved over the years.
Rugby league descends into farce
stories@theipaper.com
Wood is the man who was chief executive when Halifax went bust in the early 2000s. The man who led the RFL for a decade, who oversaw Crusaders going under, the Bradford and Odsal saga, the failed expansion of League 1 that ended with Hemel, Gloucester, Oxford and other clubs disappearing, and the disastrous Toronto Wolfpack experiment.
The individual who led the RFL to £2m in losses and who got a £300,000 severance package when he was forced out of the sport by the clubs in 2018. The man who oversaw cuts in development in England, Scotland and Wales, who oversaw declining participation and disappearing media profile, who brought in the controversial Stobart deal and the appointment of the ineffective Brian Barwick.
But say what you really mean
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2 minutes ago, johnh1 said:
Cricket?
I was just doing the American big four but white ball cricket does now, a positive innovation from the Hundred, have penalties for slow play from the fielding side.
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1 hour ago, Griff said:
No, you're just wrong there. Which is why it's common to see American football teams in the lead at the end of games stand around, winding the clock down, centre snaps the ball, quarter back kneels down, repeat as necessary. The clock isn't always stopped when a tackle is made.
Ice hockey stops the clock with every stop in play. American football has a mix and match approach but, you're right, running the clock down is definitely a thing. Basketball stops the clock so much that the final two minutes can, in big games that are close, take about an hour to play out. Baseball doesn't have a clock but did recently introduce a pitch clock to speed up play (which has worked).
There. Covered them all.
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11 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said:
Le locals definitely seemed to be voting with their feet tonight
Attendance announced as 9,134
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Going on what I'm seeing comments about, and being sad and checking page views, England's U21 win is well ahead of the Club World Cup in terms of level of interest.
But both are far ahead of anything else, including the test match.
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5 minutes ago, Hopie said:
Depends if you believe putting games on TV when the stadium is empty is a problem or not. Lots of people do.
The women’s game gets BBC coverage and a viewership of around 120,000 (maybe more?). The 1895 doesn’t.
I wouldn’t be playing at an empty Wembley but, of the two games being played at an empty Wembley, it’s the one with the TV coverage and wider audience.
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The last standalone 'Championship Cup' final that I can got around 4,000. The last standalone women's Challenge Cup final got around 4,000.
I'm not convinced that either should be part of the same day as the men's Challenge Cup final but there's not really a compelling argument to say one is obviously more valuable than the other.
Except when it comes to visibility and TV. Then it's the women's game that has significantly more value.
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18 hours ago, Damien said:
This is a hard one. The actions of parents arent the fault of the kids and it would seem harsh to punish them.
They are the responsibility of the club though and it's the club who should be sanctioned.
Actions should have consequences.
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15 hours ago, EssexRL said:
Well yes and TBH it does read like that...surely it would make sense to spin a bit more positively ('feel you've got to join our squad...")
A quick, casual read - which is how most people consume most media and always has been - would make you connect "we want players" and "next home match".
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13 minutes ago, north yorks trinity said:
I assume every unexpected phone call is a scam. Unless I'm really bored and decide to string them along, I rarely even get to hear what the call is about if I don't know the person!
Exactly. Nobody is going to a cold caller, "Yeah, just let me get my bank details out for you ..."
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London Broncos (Merged Threads)
in The General Rugby League Forum
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My view is that the sheer weight of personality and kitchen sink that Beaumont poured into it made it work - but that’s not a model you can copy.