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1 hour ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said:
A success could be a decent one off game with a decent turn out.
If you aim for mediocre and miss ...
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2 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said:
The truth is Yorkshire is inward looking in many ways which is good and bad whereas Lancashire’s two major cities have exploded onto the world stage really in reputation and importance over a number of measures.
The sporting rivalry is really about regions within Lancashire eclipsing any need to be too concerned with what’s happening to Yorkshire.
The genie is out the bottle and is difficult to put back.
Nice try.
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22 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said:
How much does it ruin a Panthers fans season if NSW lose?
If I boils down to the only rep fixtures we get played in the NH is England Vs France then what other options are out there? Maybe a decent legacy Ireland side is all I can think of
But there are more casual followers of rugby league who will be gutted when NSW lose.
There are no casual followers of county rugby league out there to give this game any meaning and you can’t really fake meaning.
I’ve said before because this thread comes up all the time. State of Origin is massive outlier. They couldn’t even make it work with other states in other sports in Australia. But because it’s big in rugby league we think this unique rep level game that is bigger than internationals is something we can copy.
Experience, literally a century of Roses games, shows that is not true.
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3 minutes ago, sam4731 said:
Everything has to start somewhere. I know we've done WotR before but this is a new era and if we do it properly, it could be as big as SOO one day.
So far, your idea is: play it, market it.
The rivalry between NSW and Queensland was real and already had a RL angle. Is it really going to ruin your season if Lancashire lose to Yorkshire?
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Just now, sam4731 said:
Nothing on here has convinced me that it isn't at least worth a punt. Like I said, maybe fans wouldn't get behind Lancashire but maybe putting the players in the spotlight rather than the teams is the way to go.
Make the Yorkshire vs Lancashire the headline but really focus in on the rivalries between the players in the marketing.
At the end of the day, fewer and fewer people care about internationals now so let's give a fiery match for neutral fans to enjoy.
The rivalry is all at club level. You’re more likely to find rivalries within the sides than at their opponents.
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So what are we doing differently to the previous 100+ times this fixture was played?
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19 minutes ago, Dave W said:
I hope it does flow down throughout the game rather than just the top teams benefitting.
Exactly. We all hope it works.
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2 minutes ago, langpark said:
Ok, but would the runners and joggers need to get a "license"?
If they have to register with a club or just fill in something to say they are running?
It doesn't seem particularly challenging to get to 1 in 6 of a population doing some kind of sport.
The bigger deal, for us, within that, is how tiny rugby league is.
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18 minutes ago, langpark said:
1 million people actively involved in sport, in a region with a 6 million population does seem disproportionately high to me.
If they include running and jogging then you'll easily get to that. In England, that comes in at 16% of the population (Active Lives Survey) so close to 1 in 6.
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15 hours ago, Dave W said:
Money - or the lack of it - is the main driver here.
Literally why the work with IMG's main purpose is getting more money into the game.
That's the reality of the IMG grading.
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2 minutes ago, DI Keith Fowler said:
The Cubs are in the National, not the American League.
Honestly, some people ...
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31 minutes ago, Spidey said:
I get it’s a thing in US sports when in practice they don’t associate positions with numbers and they go up to 99 so plenty available. I don’t think it should be done in our game, players can change their number each year, and squad numbers are a recent thing.
Even then, retiring a number is incredibly rare.
My boys - the Chicago Cubs - have been going since 1876 and have retired six numbers, one of which is the number 42 which has been retired for all baseball clubs. That's basically one number for every thirty years of franchise history.
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2 hours ago, unapologetic pedant said:
Most highlights I've seen in recent years have been in the stadium at Craven Park.
The CC game against Leeds a few weeks back was on a park field. Must be the one out the back.
Related note -
I'm assuming Wigan Women are still on to debut at the DW on Friday. RFL Match Centre has Robin Park listed as the venue.
Wigan seem to think that's where they're playing.
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If you're going to lean in then really lean in
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Oh, and Maulden Rushett isn't a village in a city. It's a village in a borough (the Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames) in a county (Greater London).#
The city in the City of London is the square mile overseen by what was once known as the Corporation of the City of London. It is not itself a London borough.
The only other city in the county of Greater London is Westminster.
Southwark has a cathedral but not city status.
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7 hours ago, Farmduck said:
If you strip away all the history of England you will probably find that today's English cities are only cities because a central authority said they were and gave them city-specific powers.
Literally what a Royal Charter is (was).
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2 hours ago, ATLANTISMAN said:
As I have been saying for ages the French produce the biggest % of good players at a reasonable level than anyone in terms of numbers.
So, what they really need to do, is get it down to 2 registered players, 1 of whom is decent.
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2 minutes ago, Barley Mow said:
Are people in the wider world going to know about the internationals, never mind the Championship match?
It looks as though it won't be on TV, just on SL+. I can't see there being much promotion of it to anyone who isn't already following RL.
A little non-leading test for you and anyone else.
You're an RL fan. Will you be telling any non-RL friends about these international games whether that's encouraging them to attend/try to watch/follow the games?
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2 hours ago, Eddie said:
Hi, does anyone know if Hull KR ladies play their games at Craven Park, or elsewhere? Thanks.
Website says Craven Park https://hullkr.co.uk/team/womens-team/fixtures
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I had thought that the Great Britain scraping past Burleigh Bears before going on to be utterly embarrassed in the 1999 Tri Nations was the lowest ebb.
Turns out, I just didn't have the imagination.
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8 minutes ago, BristolDevonCharlie said:
Maybe on here but not in the wider world. This is fully open season for RFL bashing for most. It is a shame as it all taints the fact that we have an international in the calendar and if (and that is a big if) France are at full strength at home, it should at least be competitive like in 2021.
It is poor regardless of who is the organising body. If the RFL are taking stick then I'm okay with that too. They deserve it. This bizarrely awful day is the only thing confirmed in England's diary so far this year.
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30 minutes ago, Whippet13 said:
Let's consider this before jumping in and bashing the RFL.
I think most people understand that it's the same French organisation who utterly failed to deliver the World Cup they overpromised and underworked for who are putting on this budget triple header.
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11 minutes ago, Archie Gordon said:
It delivers everything and more that you'd expect from an FFRXIII-RFL collaboration:
No tickets.
No TV.
No Toulouse players.
No doubt it will fall flat and the conclusion will be that there's no demand for international RL.
You missed out the part where people who aren’t going or who are underwhelmed get lambasted and somehow become the reason for its failure.
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14 minutes ago, Archie Gordon said:
On SL+!
I mean, there’s the possibility of a TV channel coming in but … god, this is dire.
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War of the Roses (Again)
in The General Rugby League Forum
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Bingo.
And this is, by the admission of its most fervent proponents, an idea that only exists because of a lack of alternatives - not because anyone wants it.