gingerjon
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9 minutes ago, Exiled Wiganer said:
I am not prejudging any answers, save that my experience of seeing IMG in action over the last 10 years is that they are good at what they know best, and that is broadcasting and sponsorship.
Which sport was this in?
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43 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:
Correct, and it was clearly poor, just as Cas probably is for facilities. Hence this being their score breakdown for finances:
Finance (max score 4.5): – 2.15
Non-centralised turnover £: 1.50 / 2.25
Non-centralised turnover %: 0.15 / 0.75
Adjusted profit: 0.25 / 0.5
Owner investment: 0.25 / 0.5
Balance sheet strength: 0.00 / 0.5The clubs wanted a model that took a range of factors into consideration. They also wanted on field to be the highest scoring aspect of those factors. Finance, in all it's areas, therefore cannot be worth more than 5 points as that would put it on par with performance.
Salford scored less than half the possible maximum for finances. Financially they clearly don't do very well. However, because they scored well in other areas, they still remain one of the top 12 clubs in the country overall. That may change.
If it was just on finances, Salford likely wouldn't be in the top 12. That's obvious.
But it isn't just about finances.
That should end the debate on this specific bit really.
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11 hours ago, Gooleboy said:
Looks like many football kits from down the years.
Aye, it's a match for pretty much every other non league away jersey.
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6 minutes ago, Griff said:
Which Tribunal service would you have recommended?
Like Aston, I’ll go along with the one the RFL use.
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3 minutes ago, Griff said:
There aren't many to choose from.
Still, stunning victory that the RFL are using the one named in the RFL's Operational Rules for this process.
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1 hour ago, hawk-eye said:
Victory: RFL backs down and agrees to independent review
In a significant victory, the Rugby Football League (RFL) has relented and agreed to allow Mark Aston's case to be reviewed by Sport Resolutions, the UK's leading independent sports arbitration service used by virtually every other major sport, including football, rugby union and tennis.
This breakthrough ensures that Mark's 18-month suspension will now receive proper independent scrutiny....
They do know that Sports Resolutions is the RFL's named body for independent arbitration, don't they?
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4 minutes ago, Cb2 said:
So the latest I’ve heard is the former owners of Glos All Golds are taking over at Cornwall - could be old news by now though.
That’s the end of Cornwall then.
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5 minutes ago, Griff said:
Dunno. There's only a limited analysis of costs.
I have no idea how these things work but it feels like there's a few stories there.
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12 hours ago, DEANO said:
Who was the last team to be denied promotion in the football pyramid
You can have one from the other extreme as well. Despite finishing 7th, North Shields failed their grading (not completing required ground improvements) and were relegated into the league below.
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2 minutes ago, Derwent said:
The tournament made a loss of £415k.
Is that before or after it made the fixed payment to the IRL?
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13 hours ago, Griff said:
You're blaming the World Cup for that?
Because funds have been savagely cut here in the UK too.
It was the withdrawal of money that was meant for international development that was going to be paid for out of World Cup profits.
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11 hours ago, LeytherRob said:
in which case I'd say the club has a duty to its shareholders to keep them informed and not let them find out in the press.
Do we know that shareholders haven't been kept up to date?
We do appear to have fallen for a bit of clickbait masquerading as detailed reporting again.
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5 hours ago, The Future is League said:
I'm not saying it's a condition of being in Super League, but I think it's expected.
I'm off the opinion that a condition of Super League is that you must run an academy, if you can't afford too, then you shouldn't be in Super League in my opinion.
It doesn't have to be an academy but there have to be pathways for development in place - and they have to meet minimum standards. Chopping the academy but putting in place 'pathways' is what London did last year.
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5 minutes ago, Celtic Roosters said:
I watched them for the first time in 1971 and continued until 2000.
Did you forget the bit where they were technically insolvent at the start of the 1980s, a decade of living above their means and thinking the money from the Willows club would get them through?
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19 minutes ago, LeytherRob said:
I'm sure I remember reading that part of the refusal was to appease the other Manchester adjacent clubs which if true is especially crazy considering how poorly run the majority of those clubs have been.
The best thing that ever happened to Manchester Rangers' reputation for being saviours of the sport was not being let in. They've been the perfect club ever since.
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19 minutes ago, EggFace said:
I'm really suprised that the movie Rust would get released
is there no shame to Alec Baldwin and Tinsel Land.
They released The Crow.
Heck, they released the Musketeers film that killed Roy Kinnear.
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27 minutes ago, Hopie said:
Aren't all clubs paying off their Covid loans at the moment?
Not all but most. It's at least 20 clubs who received covid loans via the RFL. (Others may have received other support elsewhere).
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6 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:
That corinthian spirit at it again.
"Money is ruining rugby ..."
Guys, I have some news for you in this book covering 130 years ago ...
But also Salford should pay their bills or drop to a level where they can afford to pay their bills.
How other clubs pay their bills is not relevant.
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1 hour ago, Celtic Roosters said:
What a nasty, bitter place Super Greed is? It's all about money - not sport.
"if they cannot afford to play, they should go without the game" - Harry Garnett, 1886
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20 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:
Anyway I suppose it’s inevitable if they want to avoid games in at the same time.
It's this. And avoiding games at the same time, as much as possible, has to be a priority in terms of rights selling and take up of things like SL+.
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5 minutes ago, Archie Gordon said:
Looks as if the BBC are doing the random days/times, and presumably channels, thing again. Disappointing.
Yes. I'm sure there are reasons but it's not great.
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The full fixture lists are now live.
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As ever, Salford being close to a Grade A but also a mess shows two key things.
First, the grades need tightening.
Second, yes, they are actually one of our bigger clubs. It shows how small the sport remains.
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There is an owners website. No news since the AGM.
Sheffield
in The General Rugby League Forum
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Having gone back to it last night, my reading follows yours. The appeal can go to the RFL or to Sports Resolutions. The process allows for either but not both.
In both cases, the panel is independent and, in both cases, it is intended to review how the original decision was reached and the fairness of the sanction - it is not usually a fresh look at the evidence.