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  1. 5 minutes ago, EastLondonMike said:

    The sponsor, or lack or, on the Wigan jersey has me scratching my head. I understand some fans prefer a jersey without a sponsor across the chest, but how do you sell that to the company who have paid to have their name on the jersey? And how do you also explain that their branding is being removed, but other sponsors on the sleeves and upper chest, who would have paid significantly less for that space, aren’t?..

    unless the non sponsor jersey has Iconiq logo on the rear somewhere?

    Just seems very odd to me.

    It would appear to be a late sponsor as somebody else mentioned. It looks like they had the kits made without sponsors and then they signed this. 

    Particularly as they say you can have a blank one now and then upgrade to a sponsored one if you want one when they are ready. That hardly suggests it is them catering for no sponsor shirts. They also stress that it is this year only. 

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  2. 1 hour ago, M j M said:

    I think they are further points why the club can't play at home on the weekends those games are on.

    Because they have away games? 😆 needless waffle to make it seem more complex than it is.

    It seems a pretty simple message, they want to relay the pitch and fitting it in as part of a crazy busy schedule means there will be a few weeks without home games. There is an argument that they maybe need to schedule things a bit better, but I dont see the big issue - I assume they are still playing the games at Headingley? 

  3. 8 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

    It will be interesting to see how French TV can be leveraged with 2 teams now. Sky taking a feed from a local broadcaster could add to those numbers.

    The list itself is not surprising, the bottom 4 English sides are the sides you'd expect (though I feel bad for KR who are both exciting and take a good away following).

    I always think Hull KR home games come across well on TV too, good atmosphere and a nice balance between knackered old ground and modern stand. 

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  4. Just now, M j M said:

    I think it's an article pushed out when the club got quite a bit of questioning about that six week gap. So, not for the first time from Leeds' media team, it's pretty poorly written and assumes some pre-existing background knowledge.

    Yes, and I'm genuinely not being obtuse, a small part of my role involves signing off press releases and online content and this would have been sent back instantly - as would pretty much everything the RFL team does! 

    But I struggled to understand the point of the opening post in this thread and followed it up by reading the link and it all made little sense. 

    I don't know why there are references to Magic Weekend and Toulouse away etc - it's waffle. 

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  5. 1 minute ago, Tommygilf said:

    I don't know why it needs spelling out more clearly? The first paragraph says there are scheduling dilemmas, then that there is a large event on round 14 or 15, and then that pitch renovations will be taking place from then. The second para then says this period covers a 6 rounds. 

    The first paragraph of the article doesn't mention scheduling dilemmas. 

    Para 1:

    Leeds Rhinos fans are getting excited about the new Betfred Super League campaign after the new fixture list was revealed this morning but the mens first team is just part of an exciting year ahead at Headingley Rugby Stadium. 

  6. On the actual subject, surely there is little issue here. The decision is theirs, as long as it can be accommodated, I don't see the problem. 

    Even Man Utd are making their stadium unavailable on certain weekends each year, and in 2022 they are staging the Grand Final and two World Cup Finals RL games. 

    Nowt to see here. 

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  7. 3 hours ago, Josef K said:

    Looking at the Saints home fixtures it seems they will be kicking off at 8pm for their Thursday/Friday night matches, and not 7.45pm. I can see some games reaching 10pm with all the needles stoppages we have nowadays. If it goes into golden point people will then be worrying about getting their last bus or train home. 

    It seems an odd change, as we specifically moved to 7.45pm a couple of years ago to make it slightly more family friendly and make sure the games finished a touch earlier.

  8. 9 hours ago, Chrispmartha said:

    Makes sense to me?


     “2022 is going to be a huge year and we are really excited to be opening up Headingley Stadium to the world once again. Obviously we are a multi sport venue which presents its own challenges and always rules out the use of the stadium on certain weekends of the year. We are planning to host a large stadium event on either the weekends of Round 14 or 15 and the pitch renovation will begin immediately following this.

    “The six round period which excludes a home game between June and mid-July includes the Magic Weekend. We had made Headingley available for Round 19 but the complexities of the fixture calculations means we are away at Toulouse so we will return to Headingley for one of our biggest games of any season; the visit of Wigan in Round 20 on 21st July.”

    which is clearly explaining the block of away games in the release of the fixture list referenced at the top of the article

    it’s not really news, more of an explanation 


    There is literally no mention of a 6 week block in this article prior to this paragraph. Could you quote it for me, because it is genuinely missing from the article I am reading?

    The thread didnt make sense, so I read the article, and that didn't make sense.

    "The six round period which excludes a home game..." is really not clear what it is saying. 

  9. 1 hour ago, Tommygilf said:

    Would expect so, plus pitch renovations. This article details it a little further.

    Leeds are an impressive club, but I think they've borrowed the RFL's work experience kid for that update. Ive read it a couple of times and I don't know what it is saying. 

    The last paragraph refers to a six week period as though that has been mentioned elsewhere in the article, and I still have no idea whether any games are being moved or whatever. If not, why is this news? 

    It really does read like the RFL guff we see a lot of at the moment. 

  10. 11 minutes ago, David Dockhouse Host said:

    I think the championship is just as entertaining to watch as SL.

    Would a casual viewer realise the difference in standard? 

    They would see the difference between a 10 to 15k crowd and a 1 to 2k crowd. 

    It can all be enjoyable, but the event status would look different. And that also goes for top of SL vs bottom of SL, which is part of Matts point. 

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  11. 10 hours ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:

    With the World Cup opener kicking off at 2:30pm it’s ideal timing for travelling there and back on the same day and making a day off it.

    If you do want to stay over but not pay the Newcastle centre prices try elsewhere along the metro line. Gateshead, Whitley Bay, Sunderland, South Shields, North Shields and Airport hotels are all easy to access from St James Park and the centre of Newcastle.


    I'm going to stay in Edinburgh with family as will be haeding back to Newcastle for the Scotland game on the Sunday. The train journey from Edinburgh to Newcastle is very pleasant indeed.

  12. 2 hours ago, Devon Ram said:

    So where are all those Rugby League supporters who shot me down when i suggested talking to C4 because they had moved to Leeds, in your eyes Rugby League wasn't good enough for somebody like C4 Quest or ITV4.


    I mean, it's still there in black and white, and that isn't what happened.

    You actually suggested Championship goes to the likes of ITV4, Quest and Prime, before mentioning C4 in Leeds. And then kept asking about have the negotiators spoken to other providers on the back of the Sky reduced deal - most people suggested yes, they will have. They obviously were.

    There wasn't anybody making the point that RL wasn't good enough for these channels, but there was some challenge around whether they would see value in SL. You appeared to take the mild disagreement in opinion very personally.

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  13. For years, when we have had 'fantasy RL' kind of conversations we have talked about things like terrestrial coverage, quality coverage of every game, video refs at each game, another French team. If the above is delivered and done well, 2022 could be a very important year for SL. 

    Then we also have 40 Championship games on Premier. 

    And 61 World Cup games on BBC. 

    We need to put everything we have into 2022.

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  14. 1 minute ago, PREPOSTEROUS said:

    Great stuff, hopefully they get enough of an audience to encourage them to take more in the next tv package. 

    I hope that their expectations are realistic as a starting point of 500k-1m per game - but they are determined to grow it through advertising. They generally advertise their own stuff really well and take it seriously, it would be great to have a supportive partner on board. 

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  15. 8 minutes ago, Damien said:

    Excellent news. This is huge for the game.

    It is great to finally see the game shown on another FTA broadcaster. The more broadcasters interested in showing the sport the better. I am also  really excited to see what Channel 4 can do and to see if they add a bit of freshness to the presentation. They could force the BBC and Sky in particular to up their game.


    2 minutes ago, iffleyox said:

    all depends on the production company really - Sunset+Vine revolutionised cricket on C4 but that was really smashing up probably over 30 years of the same way of doing things, and arguably you've got more scope with cricket - given the breaks in play, length of matches, etc. Not sure what can be done (but then again I don't work in this field so why would I?) to change an 80 minute match.

    That's not knocking it by the way, I think it's great news.

    I think the BBC in general do a good job with their coverage, and Sky get much right, but let themselves down with their pundits. 

    But there is plenty C4 could do to present it in a fresh way. I often feel we don't get the atmosphere of the fans and the event across on TV and I'd like to see them getting in there at ground level and showing off the events. 

    The one very slight worry is that they go down the RU route where it was the same coverage as you got on BT sports (I believe as I never actually watched it fully - just based on what I saw in passing). 

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  16. 8 minutes ago, cookey said:

    Delighted, looks a good deal, well done Ken Davy.

    Should be good news for our main Sponsor Bet Fred and our other leading sponsors and for the various local sponsors.

    The home Clubs absolutely MUST make an event out of each and every home game. Anyone who sits back and hopes people come to the 10 gamesshould be shot.

    BBC, Channel 4, Sky Sports - impressive and I have to say, a surprise to me.

    Yes, this needs to be the start of an opportunity that we need to make the most of rather than the end game. 

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