Dave T

But banking only on Season Ticket sales will give you a rather low budget. Warrington's Season Ticket sales are probably around 3k lower than their average. Based on an average of £20 per customer this is almost £800k that you are not factoring in. Away support is probably worth around £250k of this.

I think that is harsh. I know my club Warrington were very supportive of the World Cup and that must come from the top. I suspect that based on the success of the tournament there were plenty other supportive SL Chairmen.

And this is why the game should not be run by the CEO's. Thaksfully many people see the bigger picture.

spot on. It is a nonsense argument.

Yep - so surely a league with more jeopardy (as it's being branded) will create much more importance around games. There will always be a couple of dead rubbers, but this structure would have fewer I expect.

I don't think the issue is that players won't try, more that the games aren't that attractive to fans and partners.

generally 8-12 pts max.I also think the point the teams may not try is nonsense. The games may be less attractive to fans, but this should be balanced out by them playing the bigger and better teams.

I'm not sure this is an issue. If we look at the season just gone, after 22 rounds (not an exact comparison) the team in 8th were 9 points adrift of 4th. Now this may mean that it is difficult for them to make top 4 (I am assuming the top four would make the semi finals - I can't remember the details now!) but not impossible. Also, in the current format, London were 12 points behind the Top 8 this season meaning that they did have nothing to play for. Hull FC finised 8th, but they played in some decent games and took some points from the others in the 8.

We have also seen plenty of basket cases running our SL clubs - letting the club leaders run the game just because they have money is the wrong thing to do.

I like to purchase products from companies who support our game. I bloody love Irn Bru - but not sure I can support Laurent Perrier in the same way!!! Maybe a bottle if we win in the three big games!

i find it staggering that squads are being put together without them playing a single trial game.

What is RHP's business pedigree? These are multi-million pound businesses and I do think that CEO is possibly the most important role at a club these days.

They should ask through the correct channels - not whining about it in public. Something which is becoming incredibly common from them nowadays.

Jeez - same charge as Briers. Why didn't Thackray use his EGP and get no ban?

is Warrington's turnover so high due to Moran?is it balls...

probably more because they have more important things to focus on rather than focus on things people already know and claim it is news.

Ultimately as well, what the hell do players know about marketing? Why would this question even be asked?

Yep, tbh I don't have an issue with any of the media outlets that covered this, I am keen to understand what League13 are hoping to achieve with this. They have positioned this with the 75% of people interested in the NRL or RU. They knew this would be controversial and damaging, yet what were they looking to achieve? Were they trying to let the management know? I expect they already know, due to the fact that we have had players already leave, plus owners will probably get this thrown in front of them during every contract negotiation. Were they letting the RU know? That's a dangerous route to go down. This is a Rugby League players Union, it's a strange one, are they acting in their member's interests if they damage the game?

I wonder why our Unions are not conducting surveys to find out if we think we should be paid more?

No, of course not, our colleague surveys are done professionally and the results are reviewed by everyone with action plans put in place to address issues. The results are not plastered in the media, and we certainly didn't shout from the rooftops RBS come and get us we are all unhappy!

that 75% stat is 80% at my company.Anybody who states they are getting paid enough is a bit silly imho.

aye, the way to get a pay rise is by getting the Daily Star shouting about it.

The issue here is that the players union are actually stitching themselves up and contributing to the issues in the game. Their press release has led with the senstaional 'players exodus' thing which has then been picked up by all the media, including RL World. Surprise surprise a Union shouting about wages! So the players, who want more fans, sponsors etc in the game are shouting from the rooftops that they all want to leave the game - why the hell would people invest? At my place of work we have regular colleague opinion surveys, the results are not published in the media - and we have around 80% of people not happy with their salary - they are used to shape decisions and make people happier. Can't the Union see that this is actually contradictory to what they claim they actually want?

Absolutely spot on. I'm surprised that 25% wouldn't change their job for more money tbh! If you did a survey at Castleford for example and asked how many of them would consider a move to Warrington, Wigan or Huddersfield, you could easily get 100% of them saying yes - this isn't the same as 100% of Cas players wanting to leave.

With regards to the £1m - we don't really know what the circumstances of this were/are. It looks like the Bulls are getting around £1m less funding than other clubs over two years, maybe this £1m he has recently pumped in his is way of covering this and was always planned as part of the agreement - if this is the case, it isn;t bad news at all, as long as this is all that is required to cover the costs.