Dave T
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I think criticising Catalans for signing homophobes and sex offenders is fair game, and them having 13 overseas players is worthy of criticism in the same way it would be if Hull KR did the same.
But they are playing within the rules, and will live or die by their own business decisions, if their customers are happy with it, good for them. They are a strong SL club and they don't need to be questioned at every stage, but then we like to do that about all our existing clubs, so maybe that just makes them part of the furniture.
Similarly we don't have to go over the top with the benefits - there are some nice tv number quotes - but when Salford made the Grand Final there were almost 200k more viewers and 20k more in the ground, and we know the state Salford are in.
ON the signing itself, I don't like it one bit, I don't think we should be signing players following offences like this, but as per my 2nd para, that's their choice.
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On 28/11/2021 at 11:26, Gerrumonside ref said:
Just finished watching Ted Lasso series 1 and 2 on Apple+
Must see tv for any football/sports fan as it sends it up perfectly with the fictional tale of an American Football coach being recruited to manage a Premier League team.
Eventually this becomes a vehicle for quite an emotional character driven drama, but there’s a lot of good performances and writing as the action moves off the pitch.
Worth a try and I can fully understand why it won an award in America.
8/10
About 10 episodes in, and its a superb show. Excellent cast, and a lot of similarities with one of my favourite movies as a kid Major League.
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1 hour ago, Liverpool Rover said:
But in a league of one would you finish top or bottom?
Sods law, the one year Wire win the league, we also get relegated.
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15 minutes ago, Dunbar said:
It is a serious question and deserves a serious reply.
Two leagues of ten has its merits but I certainly don't think we should discount four leagues of five, or in fact five leagues of four, both of which work mathematically and that really is the important thing here. Then there is the tantalising prospect of one league of twenty which works really well if we want to list a lot of teams alphabetically at the start of the season.
On the other hand, ten leagues of two creates some really intense rivalries with the same two teams playing each other every weekend for the whole season. But surely the winner has to be twenty leagues of one. Everyone, literally, is a winner.
The more important point here though, one we seem to be ignoring is - are these leagues, divisions, or conferences?
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1 hour ago, dkw said:
Gotta start somewhere, why not as early as possible and build into it. RL fans seem to always aim for the now, these clubs should be getting as much encouragement as possible from everyone with a long term view and some patience. Seeing people whining about them not having everything in place minutes after they came into existence is pathetic, but unfortunately entirely expected.
Your post is a bit contradictory really.
You are criticising RL fans for 'aiming for the now' - yet you are responding to a post asking for more patience and a better longer term plan.
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5 minutes ago, EastLondonMike said:
The sponsor, or lack or, on the Wigan jersey has me scratching my head. I understand some fans prefer a jersey without a sponsor across the chest, but how do you sell that to the company who have paid to have their name on the jersey? And how do you also explain that their branding is being removed, but other sponsors on the sleeves and upper chest, who would have paid significantly less for that space, aren’t?..
unless the non sponsor jersey has Iconiq logo on the rear somewhere?
Just seems very odd to me.
It would appear to be a late sponsor as somebody else mentioned. It looks like they had the kits made without sponsors and then they signed this.
Particularly as they say you can have a blank one now and then upgrade to a sponsored one if you want one when they are ready. That hardly suggests it is them catering for no sponsor shirts. They also stress that it is this year only.
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9 minutes ago, Davo5 said:
Best shirts for years.
I look forward to Wigan making a complete balls up of next year's release. I do enjoy the 'creative' years they go with
Agree, these are the best Wigan kits for a while.
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Nice kits from Wigan.
I always see people complain about sponsors, and I get it, but I must admit I find shirts without sponsors a bit weird nowadays. Like something is missing.
The whole Iqoniq thing seems weird though, didn't they get pulled off other club shirts during the season last year?
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1 hour ago, M j M said:
I think they are further points why the club can't play at home on the weekends those games are on.
Because they have away games?
needless waffle to make it seem more complex than it is.
It seems a pretty simple message, they want to relay the pitch and fitting it in as part of a crazy busy schedule means there will be a few weeks without home games. There is an argument that they maybe need to schedule things a bit better, but I dont see the big issue - I assume they are still playing the games at Headingley?
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8 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:
It will be interesting to see how French TV can be leveraged with 2 teams now. Sky taking a feed from a local broadcaster could add to those numbers.
The list itself is not surprising, the bottom 4 English sides are the sides you'd expect (though I feel bad for KR who are both exciting and take a good away following).
I always think Hull KR home games come across well on TV too, good atmosphere and a nice balance between knackered old ground and modern stand.
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5 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:
Sorry, was referring to the paragraphs you quoted.
Yeah, I realised afterwards which para you meant.
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Just now, M j M said:
I think it's an article pushed out when the club got quite a bit of questioning about that six week gap. So, not for the first time from Leeds' media team, it's pretty poorly written and assumes some pre-existing background knowledge.
Yes, and I'm genuinely not being obtuse, a small part of my role involves signing off press releases and online content and this would have been sent back instantly - as would pretty much everything the RFL team does!
But I struggled to understand the point of the opening post in this thread and followed it up by reading the link and it all made little sense.
I don't know why there are references to Magic Weekend and Toulouse away etc - it's waffle.
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1 minute ago, Tommygilf said:
I don't know why it needs spelling out more clearly? The first paragraph says there are scheduling dilemmas, then that there is a large event on round 14 or 15, and then that pitch renovations will be taking place from then. The second para then says this period covers a 6 rounds.
The first paragraph of the article doesn't mention scheduling dilemmas.
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Leeds Rhinos fans are getting excited about the new Betfred Super League campaign after the new fixture list was revealed this morning but the mens first team is just part of an exciting year ahead at Headingley Rugby Stadium.
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Nice to see C4's social media covering this a fair bit. Things like that are a positive sign, I'd encourage people to interact with it as much as possible.
In general the announcement has been massively positive, with only the odd weird exception, and C4 will absolutely be monitoring the online sentiment.
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On the actual subject, surely there is little issue here. The decision is theirs, as long as it can be accommodated, I don't see the problem.
Even Man Utd are making their stadium unavailable on certain weekends each year, and in 2022 they are staging the Grand Final and two World Cup Finals RL games.
Nowt to see here.
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6 hours ago, Leonard said:
It's quaint people still use cable providers.
You are the niche population. As Gav proved when he also claimed that streaming was the bigger channel. It isn't.
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3 hours ago, Josef K said:
Looking at the Saints home fixtures it seems they will be kicking off at 8pm for their Thursday/Friday night matches, and not 7.45pm. I can see some games reaching 10pm with all the needles stoppages we have nowadays. If it goes into golden point people will then be worrying about getting their last bus or train home.
It seems an odd change, as we specifically moved to 7.45pm a couple of years ago to make it slightly more family friendly and make sure the games finished a touch earlier.
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9 hours ago, Chrispmartha said:
Makes sense to me?
“2022 is going to be a huge year and we are really excited to be opening up Headingley Stadium to the world once again. Obviously we are a multi sport venue which presents its own challenges and always rules out the use of the stadium on certain weekends of the year. We are planning to host a large stadium event on either the weekends of Round 14 or 15 and the pitch renovation will begin immediately following this.
“The six round period which excludes a home game between June and mid-July includes the Magic Weekend. We had made Headingley available for Round 19 but the complexities of the fixture calculations means we are away at Toulouse so we will return to Headingley for one of our biggest games of any season; the visit of Wigan in Round 20 on 21st July.”
which is clearly explaining the block of away games in the release of the fixture list referenced at the top of the article
it’s not really news, more of an explanation
There is literally no mention of a 6 week block in this article prior to this paragraph. Could you quote it for me, because it is genuinely missing from the article I am reading?
The thread didnt make sense, so I read the article, and that didn't make sense.
"The six round period which excludes a home game..." is really not clear what it is saying.
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1 hour ago, Tommygilf said:
Would expect so, plus pitch renovations. This article details it a little further.
Leeds are an impressive club, but I think they've borrowed the RFL's work experience kid for that update. Ive read it a couple of times and I don't know what it is saying.
The last paragraph refers to a six week period as though that has been mentioned elsewhere in the article, and I still have no idea whether any games are being moved or whatever. If not, why is this news?
It really does read like the RFL guff we see a lot of at the moment.
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2 hours ago, Just Browny said:
Out today. Warrington go to Toulouse on 26 Feb, might work best as a ski trip.
Are flights to Toulouse only available from London? Any other options for travelling that you know of?
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11 minutes ago, David Dockhouse Host said:
I think the championship is just as entertaining to watch as SL.
Would a casual viewer realise the difference in standard?
They would see the difference between a 10 to 15k crowd and a 1 to 2k crowd.
It can all be enjoyable, but the event status would look different. And that also goes for top of SL vs bottom of SL, which is part of Matts point.
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First couple of rounds fixtures released.
Four live games in round 1 (including Toulouse home opener)
3 in round 2 - disappointing that Catalans home game is not on TV.
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10 hours ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said:
With the World Cup opener kicking off at 2:30pm it’s ideal timing for travelling there and back on the same day and making a day off it.
If you do want to stay over but not pay the Newcastle centre prices try elsewhere along the metro line. Gateshead, Whitley Bay, Sunderland, South Shields, North Shields and Airport hotels are all easy to access from St James Park and the centre of Newcastle.
https://newcastlegateshead.com/plan-your-visit/maps/nexus-tyne-and-wear-metro-map
I'm going to stay in Edinburgh with family as will be haeding back to Newcastle for the Scotland game on the Sunday. The train journey from Edinburgh to Newcastle is very pleasant indeed.
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2 hours ago, Devon Ram said:
So where are all those Rugby League supporters who shot me down when i suggested talking to C4 because they had moved to Leeds, in your eyes Rugby League wasn't good enough for somebody like C4 Quest or ITV4.
I mean, it's still there in black and white, and that isn't what happened.
You actually suggested Championship goes to the likes of ITV4, Quest and Prime, before mentioning C4 in Leeds. And then kept asking about have the negotiators spoken to other providers on the back of the Sky reduced deal - most people suggested yes, they will have. They obviously were.
There wasn't anybody making the point that RL wasn't good enough for these channels, but there was some challenge around whether they would see value in SL. You appeared to take the mild disagreement in opinion very personally.
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Will the encouraging signs lead to increased attendances?
in The General Rugby League Forum
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I have said for a long time that we need to try and focus on creating a positive narrative around the game. We are a pretty negative bunch in RL, but the game makes it very easy to be negative and fall into that trap as some of the own goals the game creates is laughable.
I think the morale around the game is an issue, and it can be a drain at times and tbh, over the years I have chosen to do other things as I find it too much of a drain at spells. I have said we need to focus on some easy wins, stop talking about the structure, stop making controversial decisions, just do things well and create a happier atmosphere.
I think if we can get behind the Channel 4 deal, get a good streaming offering, stage a good Semi double header plus Cup Final, Magic and lead into a World Cup, 2022 has the makings of a really good and fun 12 months.
When we talk about new or existing fans, it doesn't really matter, we have a lot of lapsed fans, our crowds are down on recent year's so even turning that round is progress. We then have the World Cup to really focus on newer fans, in grounds and on TV.
Creating a positive vibe around the game cannot be underestimated imho.