The Daddy

You speak for all people in St Helens then?

So I'm lying?

I wouldn't be against Widnes taking on the Liverpool name and tbh I really think they need it coz they are struggling at the moment

You sound a bit bi polar. So are you in favour of a merged Calder team or not?

I agree. There is no appetite for any merged Calder team so lets stop bringing them into this discussion, it's a completely different situation.

I'm not proposing a merger, I'm proposing St Helens broadens its supporter base and adopt the Liverpool name.

Sounds like you're contradicting yourself here. Now you're saying that a merged Cas/Wakefield/Fev club would take off and be huge for the sport. I disagree. A merged Calder/Wakefield team adds nothing to RL

Why would people from Liverpool be against having a RL team, really exaggerating here. Saints and Widnes already have supporters in Liverpool.

Yes, I used to play RL. What does that have to do with it?

I've never been an advocate of Fev, Wakey and Cas merging it adds no value to the sport.

Did you do a survey of people from both areas? Yeah, it can be fantasy but the sport needs to adapt, people don't want to change and still expect Sky to fork out millions and broadcasters and newspapers to give wall to wall coverage when the geographical footprint continues to shrink. Newcastle is gone, Skolars is gone, West Wales is gone. A huge mentality shift needs to happen across the sport.

No appetite from existing fans. Problem with the sport now is that it's in its own echo chamber. You can be steeped in RL history but that doesn't always translate to commercial success and getting more younger people into the sport. The reason why mergers and name changes keep popping up is because the sport in the UK is shrinking and should be open to rebranding in whatever form it takes to appeal to more people and stay in the public consciousness.

Yeah build on it by adopting Liverpool as a city and adding it to the club name

Why you so against it, gives the club a bigger platform. The most successful SL club deserves more exposure, more sponsors etc

They've done that before

I know.

You a Saints fan?

The Borough of St Helens is now a part of the recently founded Liverpool City Region which started in 2014. It's a broad area which encompasses over 2 million people. St Helens over the years have presided over various initiatives in Liverpool city itself but I wouldn't really say they have made a big push in the city. St Helens being part of the city region does give them more justification to adopt Liverpool as a catchment area and incorporate it into the club name. I know that I'll get shouted down by everyone on this site but I do think that a renaming of the club to Liverpool St Helens would benefit the sport and the club hugely, opening up the club and RL to a much wider audience. The sport and RL clubs shouldn't be afraid to evolve over time and needs to proactively compete with other sports and social media to stay in the public consciousness. Catalan Dragons is a merger of local rivals St Esteve, St Cyprien and XIII Catalan they were not afraid to do something different and now they are one of the most successful clubs in the northern hemisphere. I'm particularly keen to see what Saints fans think, would they back a club with Liverpool in the name? Disclaimer: Please don't all throw darts at me at once this is just a topic on a discussion forum which I'm keen to explore

I'd be surprised if Santo was left out

I haven't seen that thread yet. Cheers

Also heard that Hugo Salabio has signed for Huddersfield Giants

https://treizemondial.fr/damel-diakhate-signe-en-super-league/

At least they won't have to worry about away fans

It's too much

Gonna be a close game I think......can't wait. LFG!!!!