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9 minutes ago, preid said:
If it's still not too late, the RFL should take them in-house to finish the season, get the council to allow the stadium to be used for the remaining home matches, allow players who wish to join other clubs and acquire loan players from various clubs to make up the numbers shortfall. Of course staff have to be paid as well. That needs doing like pronto. Salford could phoenix-apply for League 1 next season and play out of Moor Lane.
Theoretically there should be about two thirds of Salford's Sky money remaining plus at least two recent transfer fees so, with gate money - say 11 home matches x 4,000 x say £15 average = approx £2,000,000 to sustain for just six months.
In terms of Toulouse stepping up, would be because they are the only full-time team in the Championship so if augmented with some Salford players would be no less competitive than London (or Hull) were last year. However propping up Salford for this season is easily the best solution.
Separately, can anyone remind (please) what happened to Sebastian Gerrard who was linked with taking over no more than two years ago ?
Might be the best solution in a difficult situation. But does this not go against RFL operational rules in respect to funding clubs directly and propping them up.
As I understand things our governing body cannot own, finance or invest into a club. Correct me if I'm wrong
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7 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said:
I’m a believer in IMG, but some situations are so exceptional that you have to look at different solutions as we have done previously.
Toulouse as the 13th ranked club should be given 1st refusal and the opportunity to demonstrate that they can make it work. That's if the opportunity arises
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10 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said:
Fair enough, for me it would have to be a voluntary tender scheme to replace Salford like when Leigh replaced Toronto, so I guess Bradford would have to make their own decision on what is best for them.
Then what's the point of IMG gradings?
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10 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said:
Fair enough, for me it would have to be a voluntary tender scheme to replace Salford like when Leigh replaced Toronto, so I guess Bradford would have to make their own decision on what is best for them.
No, the IMG gradings place Toulouse as the next team to be promoted to SL.
The process where Leigh were selected to replace Toronto was farcical, no transparency and no reasons given that justified them being included. It was a corrupt process with Leigh selected to pacify the clubs.
It seems like you want to repeat this process because it favours Bradford and doesn't take into account IMG gradings, league positions or any other factors that are fair. It would be corrupt to repeat the same.
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3 minutes ago, Eddie said:
Why do you think it should be Toulouse?
According to the IMG gradings they should be next.
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26 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said:
What if Bradford got a load of extra cash out of replacing Salford late notice and some special dispensation on the IMG gradings for the 2025 season?
Totally understand that Bradford would need some compensation and reward to do this.
Or anyone else.
Huge conflict of interest if Nigel Wood is a Bradford shareholder.
Not to mention they're not the 13th placed IMG club or even the next best performing club based on last seasons results or even this seasons results.
And that's before we talk about the state of Odsal.
It would be farcical and corrupt if Bradford replaced Salford.
Just, no.
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1 hour ago, Expatknight said:
3 words WHAT A SHAMBLES!
Given their recent financial history they should never have been in SL this season
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6 minutes ago, langpark said:
Are you sure about that? I just checked google images, it looks tiny. Can hardly see any seating there at all.
I would have thought Stade Blagnac, where I think they already played one season, would be the ideal size as long as they are in the Championship (4000 seats) but will likely be too small for SL. It's a real shame they could not develop their own ground, I hope things change otherwise they might be stuck in a bit of a 'Huddersfield-like' conundrum.
As I understand things Stade Blagnac is not in the city itself. The RU club are primary tenants and considering they may be in SL next year the capacity will be too small.
From what I remember there's an athletics track too which isn't good for atmosphere. Blagnac is a non starter.
Stade Struxiano has a lot of open space and undeveloped land so would be ideal for a new development. I think it's best to develop Struxiano and stay at the current stadium until that's done
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Stade Ernest Wallon is being renovated to increase capacity to 25,000.
According to the article, this could result in TO relocating away from the stadium.
A French poster on the Toulouse forum on Rugby Forum xiii commented that Stade Struxiano would be an ideal location for a TO stadium.
The club already use it as a base, including for youth team games and is ideally located with a Metro station, bars and restaurants.
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19 hours ago, oiseau said:
Dunno, I’m no doctor but if it is a ruptured Achilles he will be out for at least six months I suppose ?
Jonno was out for about four months when he ruptured his shoulder muscles iirc.
Looks like the young hookers Guillon and Rodriguez will have to step forward and fill the void
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1 hour ago, oiseau said:
The Gahan injury looks like the Achilles tendon rupture according to a very glum Houles post-match. Gahan has grown into the no.9 shirt over the past year and his loss is immense, up there with the Ford shoulder injury a few years back when promotion seemed inévitable. Rodriguez has done well when replacing Gahan . I would like to see Brochon given a chance to slow into the team, he looks comfortable wherever he’s asked to play.
Ryan Rivett at no.6 is a big miss but the club did well to reject his inflated wage demands imo. Lacans has done well when coming on in the last quarter in the games I've seen. Cator and Butler have also impressed.
How long can we expect Gahan to be out for? He's looked really good so far this season.
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51 minutes ago, Chris22 said:
A lot of the talk on this thread has been about McManus' comments but by comparison to what Brian Carney said on Sky Sports on Friday night, McManus' remarks are totally irrelevant.
Whilst broadcasting, Carney said that what is going to happen to the sport in the next weeks and months are going to make the change to Super League in 1995 / 1996 "look like a teddy bear's picnic".
That period of time was the most significant in the sport in this country since 1895. And Carney has stated that what is coming, essentially, makes that look small fry.
For me, this is a major talking point, even though he was coy about what he has actually heard is happening.
Shane Richardson signed Carney at Gateshead.
Are they close? Did he tip Carney off?
Carney also played at Newcastle Knights and I'm guessing he has connections over there
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5 minutes ago, Charlie said:
I always thought with Toulouse they lack a strong pack, produced some good backs but not many top level forward
I do think they would need to recruit heavily to be competitive in SL
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1 minute ago, langpark said:
It's not an obsession, it's the key indicator of a club's ability to be viable. and yes, you are right, they are playing at Championship level after all.
Also, let me repeat, I am hopeful they get to SL and remain there for years!
Not in France it is. French sports clubs get most of their income from local, city and regional bodies.
This is one of the reasons why Catalan Dragons rarely have attendances over say 12,000 but are one of the highest income generating clubs in Europe.
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7 minutes ago, langpark said:
Brilliant rebuttal.
Well the points you were making weren't brilliant. I really don't know what attendances you expect French clubs to get at Championship level. Catalan Dragons never got attendances above 1000 until they arrived in SL.
Attendances are a good indication of support but for some people it's an obsession. They can only be judged after an extended period in SL in a covid free situation
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1 hour ago, langpark said:
Yes Albi and Carcassonne brought at least half the amount of spectators.
To be honest, Toulouse worry me. I want them so bad to succeed, but I see so many parallels with Sheffield.
1. Big city
2. Heartland / not heartland area
3. Even when they have success, crowds don't really seem to grow muchI am sure living in Stade Toulousain's shadow doesn't help either. They are insanely popular in France, so it's a tricky one to try and market yourselves when they are playing in the same stadium. I hope they can pull it off and become a bigger club and a SL powerhouse some day (on and off the field).
They're nothing like Sheffield. Has Sheffield ever had attendances of 10,000 in the Championship? No
Toulouse has twice for play off games.
Actually not many Championship clubs do get the attendances of TO, so im not sure why they're being held to a higher standard.
Toulouse has far solid investment and backing than Sheffield has ever had.
What will decide the success or failure of TO will be an extended time in SL in the same way Catalan has, nothing to do with Stade Toulousain.
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1 hour ago, langpark said:
Yes Albi and Carcassonne brought at least half the amount of spectators.
To be honest, Toulouse worry me. I want them so bad to succeed, but I see so many parallels with Sheffield.
1. Big city
2. Heartland / not heartland area
3. Even when they have success, crowds don't really seem to grow muchI am sure living in Stade Toulousain's shadow doesn't help either. They are insanely popular in France, so it's a tricky one to try and market yourselves when they are playing in the same stadium. I hope they can pull it off and become a bigger club and a SL powerhouse some day (on and off the field).
That's the spirit, turn everything into a negative
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1 hour ago, Spidey said:
It was a double header and Hunslet was the curtain raiser
No Hunslet wasn't the curtain raiser
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I like the way the club is chugging along right now. They didn't go out and make huge signings in the off season, they've opted to give game time to home grown players and so far so good. At this stage there is no obvious runaway team in the Championship, but based on the first few games if TO can keep their key players fit they'll be in the mix with the likes of Widnes, Barrow, Bradford etc.
It seems at though they've made a big effort to increase their crowds and there has been an increase in matchday attendance so far this year which is positive and bodes well moving forward. The club posted nearly 6,000 attending at yesterdays game.
The new president Olivier Dubiois has said in an interview last year that he is pushing for the club to play out of a newly developed 10,000 capacity stadium in the future. I'm in agreement with this thinking, the club played at its own ground Stade Minimes prior to its renovation being opposed by local residents, the atmosphere was great and capacity appropriate to the size of the club. Stade Ernest Wallon is a great arena but it's just too big for where Toulouse are right now.
Only negative from the game was Calum Gahan being taken off, let's hope it's not a prolonged long term injury.
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Watching the Toulouse v Hunslet game and the young player Romeo Tropis is doing very well
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1 hour ago, OMEGA said:
How did Cas get a Grade ‘A’ from IMG?
Installed some wooden seats apparently
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That statement or article or whatever it was from Mcmanus is childish and embarrassing.
It reads worse than a student newsletter, you would have no idea it was put together by a chairman of one of the country's national sports.
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38 minutes ago, JM2010 said:
There’s some strong junior clubs in Oldham, Rochdale and Leigh in particular
How many clubs do Swinton have underneath them?
I'm doubtful that Oldham, Rochdale and Leigh have a large number of junior clubs.
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2 hours ago, JM2010 said:
I’m a believer that if a new club is going to be added then there needs to be several junior clubs underneath otherwise its not really growing the game
Do the current set of Greater Manchester clubs have several junior clubs underneath them?
I'm not talking about the ones in the Wigan area
Salford financial issues(again…)
in The General Rugby League Forum
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Yeah, there's no obvious solution to this. Every option has a downside