barnyia
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You are allowed four non french players in your 17, both had four foreigner, Carcassonne 2 fijiens and 2 Aussies, Albi 2 kiwi and 2 Aussies I think,
Lézignan had three Aussies (Maloney, norman , Dillon ) and one Papua (segayaro)
Limoux, 4 Aussies (templeman, sadler, Clark and Santo) plus Mika who's now classed as french.
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15h30 French time for both games.
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Two good games this weekend,
Carcassonne v Albi tomorrow afternoon on the carcassonne YouTube channel
Sunday limoux v Lexi live on limoux YouTube channel
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1 hour ago, gingerjon said:
No idea if they did it at Barrow but I know it happened at Aberystwyth Town Football Club back in the day cos I bought a ticket but my square remained business free.
It was in the mid 90s I think, I was playing a team up there against barrow (I think) and remember asking why there was a cow/donkey on the field.
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Anyone remember the barrow lotto? The pitch split into squares and then a cow roamed and where it did it's business the person who had that square won the prize? Or did I dream that? Or was it a donkey ?
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1 hour ago, lucky 7 said:
Silly me i thought Lezignan was in France
Lézignan is in France but I meant he's been in the team and played in all their games since he arrived at Christmas.
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12 hours ago, Jughead said:
The French back office has been a shambles for a decade, probably closer to two, maybe even three. Looking at Catalans and Toulouse to drag them upwards from an entrenched malaise is the wrong approach. A root and branch review is much needed.
At junior level, France are competing and, in some cases, beating England in Academy age games. Now, I don’t believe that they reach a certain age and get Space Jammed and become rubbish players. What happens between the ages of 16-19? Do players fall away and play Union? Do they leave the sport to study? Do they continue with the sport and aren’t getting the right opportunities in the years between say 19-22? Do they continue with the sport and aren’t progressing beyond the Elite 1 sides of the two professional clubs? With the Academy level sides, are they playing regularly? Are they playing Australia and New Zealand? If not, why aren’t they? What does that cost? Is there centres of excellence or elite training squads that meet regularly whether regionally or nationally?
What’s junior coaching like? What are the numbers? What is the quality of those numbers? What is the general philosophies of coaches, is it win at all costs or are they attempting to nurture talent? How many coaching clinics are there? What is the pathway for coaching like, can people move through stages easily and effectively?
Looking at Elite 1 and the French open age game now, what’s the point of that? Do teams have pathways in place to bring through young players? What’s the numbers like at open age level, why do players leave the sport and where do those who leave go? Union? Give up altogether? Is Elite 1 playing in winter doing any good for anyone or should their season be more aligned to be brought into line with the world game playing between February and October?
If France want a good national side it starts with them not being left for Catalans and Toulouse to do. The talk of a full-time Elite 1 is, frankly, pie in the sky nonsense if it’s underpinned by waste paper as its foundations. Any monies generated from a World Cup should go absolutely nowhere near washed up Australians having one last year of a European jaunt before returning home to get a proper job. The Corey Norman’s, Jason Clark’s and James Maloney’s of the next ten years shouldn’t be given full-time deals to play at Limoux, Lezignan or wherever. A failure to invest in a proper strategy for the sport, just like The RFL, is what’s holding them back not ludicrous accusations about Catalans or Toulouse.
I've coached all age groups over here from u5s to elite u19s, 3rd and 4th division adults and elite 1 adults. The coaching is good considering the small number of coaches, luckily they have a thing called the pole espoirs/pôle France in Avignon, Toulouse and Carcassonne,
They choose the better players for the last 3 years of school (15 to 18 years old) who want to go there to study and train
They train all week with the pole with excellent coaches, 3 or 4 field sessions and a couple of weight sessions per week, at the weekend they play for their respective clubs, this set up almost allows the kids to train like a pro.
After this they're just let go into life and u19s club rugby, so back to 2 sessions a week or 3 if they are at an elite club, they get good coaching at club level but they don't improve as much as they did at the pole.
Work, university takes over and quite a few stop playing or just stay playing with their mates.
players that stay or transfer to the xiii Catalan u19s stop the pole , xiii catalan stop their players being part of the pole after the second year as they can't be at the Catalan club training during the week. They train 4 times a week at xiii catalan u19s. But at the Catalans you have to make a choice, leave home, change your school, sometimes change what your studying so you can fit studies around training, if you want a job it's not possible if you play at the Catalan 19s unless the hours suit the club.
Toulouse have a centre of excellence for over 18s which includes studying and rugby during the day, I'm not sure how many players they have in this set up.
As for playing numbers, there's around 16/17 under 15 teams in France, around 14/15 u17s and u19s teams,
For the adults there's 10 elite 1 teams, 9 elite 2,
Around 12 dn1/3rd division teams and at most 20 fourth division teams,
Teams like Lézignan, limoux, Albi, catalan and Carcassonne have teams in all these categories, so the number of teams doesn't mean the number of clubs in France.
This is for the whole of France,
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3 hours ago, POR said:
In Bradford, England, several desperate streetwalkers team up to run the business for themselves. They must deal with competition, mobsters, moralists, psychos and cops, but at least now they have each other and a plan.
Sounds like the opening credits of the a team
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3 hours ago, OdsalBull said:
This was actually Leeds
I thought it was Bradford was it called band of gold or something like that?
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4 hours ago, lucky 7 said:
Hasn't he been playing in France where he couldn't get a regular game?
No he's been playing at Lézignan, played all the games and playing at least 60 mins a game, going through the motions but with the odd glimpse of how good he is when he wants to play.
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2 hours ago, Number 16 said:
Oh, yeah, Bradford does have hookers!
There was a drama series a few years ago about that or was it a documentary
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3 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:
And where is the money going to come from barny? Honest Question.
Some bloke from Valencia or bath, apparently he owns 4 teams, and wants to make elite 1 pro and merge with another competition that's just starting up I've just heard
(joke)
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1 hour ago, Harry Stottle said:
And where is the money going to come from barny? Honest Question.
Honest reply, no idea,
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5 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:
Who owns the Elite1 clubs @barnyia? Are they privately owned like the SL clubs are?
They're like amateur clubs in the UK, they survive off hand outs from the town, sponsors and money from the presidents, the grounds are all owned by the local council. Same for training facilities etc, stade Gilbert Brutus is owned by the local council.
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1 minute ago, Leonard said:
Why do you think it is that Cats and TO are not taking these players and offering them the pathway? Or is it as simple as they go for the quick fix with an import?
What do you make of Zenon btw?
If you go to Catalan you have to leave home, you have to go to their selection day for the u19s that play in the same comp as all the other u19s, they train 4/5 tmes a week and are hardly paid much if they're part of the elite 1 team, (free for the u19s players ) they have to study around training or work as they train every night, if they get with the reserve elite 1 team it's the same as they train during the day, I believe it's almost the same at toulouse, they don't or aren't allowed to contact players from other clubs (don't know why), they have to kind of negotiate secretly and sell them dreams.
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My son is only 16 and played for France u17s last season at 15 years old, he wants to play in England one day soon, 4 or 5 of the players from this team are keen to play in England or Australia, some elite 1 players are keen to play in England this summer too, the problems are visas(since Brexit) and finding clubs interested and willing to provide accommodation etc
These kids dream of playing pro but at 18, life takes over, driving licence, college or work etc they stay with their clubs and some manage to play elite 1, train 2 times a week 3 maximum.
If these kids where surrounded by pros or pro coaching they'd go a lot further,
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A french union player playing 5th or 6th division union earns more than an elite 1 player, so getting scraps from union teams will never happen unless there's money.
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Money is needed, either a pro league in France or elite 1 mixed with championship and league 1.
The work done in France is amazing saying how many actual RL teams and players there are,
They can compete with England at u17s and maybe come close at u19s, saying there's only 14 under 17 teams in the whole of France and less u19s teams it's pretty impressive work by the clubs.
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It was a great atmosphere it was a lot louder than a Catalan game even if it was half the numbers they get for a dragons match sad to see that not many Catalan neutrals turned up for the game,
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12 hours ago, sam4731 said:
https://cdn.jwplayer.com/previews/mhuTt8rQ
What do we think? Any other candidates?
Link to the same try from Saturdays final.
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42 minutes ago, The Daddy said:
So the match has to be replayed because Lezignan misunderstood the rules, even though they lost anyway
Is this a joke?
So why do they get another chance? Absolute sh*t show
Because they received a mail signed by Luc Lacoste saying not to play their players or they where breaking the rules. And one from the jurist saying not to play them. Lézignan asked the question and got a reply that wasn't correct. Do you trust your interpretation of the rules in this situation or the advice of the president and the jurist of the federation? the rules contradict themselves in the list of rules and regulations. Complicated situation.
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Andorra rugby league will be next, they sell made up teams shirts too. And copy official french teams shirts and sell them. But no money goes to the club's.
French play offs
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Yes Villeneuve kicked a drop goal in the last second, u19s can't do Extra time as there's under 18s in the teams (federation rules ) so the game is deciding by red cards then tries scored I think, the cup semi between Carpentras and Carcassonne finished in penalties from 40 metres out.