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Just now, DavidM said:
I loved it tbh . I watched two guys it origin have a punch up and stay on so I don’t know what rules are in big games. I like my big game rugby like that
In that regard, I preferred Origin... I thought the game today was tough and enjoyable enough but it was too niggly with players staying down for the video ref to award penalties again and trying to wind each other up (face rubs, head slams etc.) and shouting at the ref too much as well.
It was all a bit too stroppy to be old school for me.
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2 minutes ago, DavidM said:
Honestly I didn’t think either were sinbins . In a big semi final between two rivals who hate each other I thought the officiating in a lot of it was a massive over reaction .
I disagree with this one. Any type of punch or running in these these days is a sin bin. Everyone knows that and it is the same for the semi's.
As for the officiating. He sent 7 to the bin and the players were still trying to whack each other and try it on. If he hadn't been as strict it could have been mayhem.
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4 minutes ago, gingerjon said:
That's fair.
I was meaning specifically the women. It's very like women's cricket: Australia went first with proper professionalism (however imperfect) whereas the rest of the world was paying lip service to it. It'll be years before that gap closes if it ever does.
With the men: we're both not that far off in that we always have the potential to run them close (sometimes agonisingly so) but also miles behind because we simply do not have the depth to do that on a regular and guaranteed basis.
This is all true. My heart says our Women can do it but I watch most of the NRLW games and the quality is excellent.
Although they play 35 minute halves and we play 40 so maybe we can run them down in the last 5 when they are knackered.
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4 minutes ago, gingerjon said:
I think it's closer to the 1982 Kangaroos tour.
The men or the women?
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I have described the situation between the Women's game in the UK and Australia as similar to the men's internationals in the 90's. The game over there is much stronger but we have some high quality players and hopefully we can get a competitive team on the park.
Of course, that can also be said about the men's game in 2022.
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1 minute ago, bobbruce said:
The cap now includes two marquee players for clubs with money. Plus a few ways to not count players full wages on the cap that didn’t exist on the original cap. So for some clubs I doubt it’s far off moving with inflation.
Agreed. There are ways for clubs to spend more on star players. In fact with the marquee rule, they could spend far more if they had the wherewithal.
The fact that ubs don't implies that they don't have the money.
There is a chicken and egg conversation with the cap. Soke would argue individuals don't invest in Rugby League because you can't buy success while others will point to the marquee rule and suggest it was there if needed.
I would be happy to raise the cap but it is 100% going to be beneficial for the clubs that are already making the finals every year.
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31 minutes ago, bobbruce said:
Scrums have been replaced with ptbs.
Till next week anyway.
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Well done to Spotty Herbert on the win this week.
Wow, what a competition the NRL is... such a competitive and unpredictable first week of the finals.
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57 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:
Likewise if you were allowed to spend more, Leeds and Wigan etc would have to because they would compete with eachother.
I would be ok with that. I would be very happy with Leeds, Saints & Wigan (and other well managed clubs) spending more on their squads - bringing star players from Australia, maybe even a cross code player or two.
But this isn't allowing the others to climb up as you say, it will take the top teams further away.
But after two decades of a stupidly low salary cap not having the desired effect I would be happy to see some injection at the top end.
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5 minutes ago, Dave T said:
Great job lads. This is why I stayed out of it
Not my fault Bob's still living in the 1980's
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5 hours ago, Simon147 said:
I'm quite new to watching Rugby League and a bit unsure on some of the laws, when the ball is kicked to touch during general play how does it restart, is it a scrum or play the ball, can someone explain what happens when it's kicked out on that full, when it bounces in the field before going out into touch, and also how play is restarted if it's kicked on the 5th tackle. Also how is play restarted when a player is tackled into touch?
Hope that all makes sense. Thanks.
As far as I know.
Unless it is a 40-20 or 20-40 kick, if a ball is kicked and bounces into touch it is a lateral handover and the team who didn't kick can choose to have it on the 10m, 20m or the middle of the field.
If the ball is kicked out on the full over the sideline it is a handover from the point the ball was kicked. A ball kicked out on the full over the dead ball line will be a 20m restart with a zero tackle.
All of the above are the same whatever tackle the ball is kicked on.
I believe that if a player is legitimately tackled into touch this also results in a lateral handover (although it may be 20m in from the touchline where the tackle occurred on that one).
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22 hours ago, Tommygilf said:
That is because the cap is so low. If you're being paid peanuts, you may as well be winning. That of course applies to academy level players too. Even if a club does pay enough to tempt a player away from the top sides, then that compromises their spending in other aspects.
Alongside a general raising of the cap to keep up with the times, there are a number of things the sport could look at that have been tried and utilised in other sports too. Essentially you give lower achieving organisations structural, if not sporting, advantages. 1st draft picks, more wind tunnel testing time, a temporarily increased cap are examples of these. Some are pretty extreme, but they are designed to break pretty ingrained failure circuit loops.
I would be delighted to see the cap raised and I have stated a few times that even if the cap had just kept place with inflation the £1.8M salary cap in 2002 would be at least £2.8M today and not £2.1M.
But let's not kid ourselves. Increasing the cap today would just increase the gap between the best teams in the league and the rest. The best run clubs are also the best teams and these would be the one's spending more... extending the gap not reducing it.
All teams have access to two marquee spots. Where are the big name signings that these two spots offer. We could literally offer Tom Trbojevic, Latrell Mitchell or James Tedesco as much money as they wanted and no-one is bringing them over.
It's all well ad good providing these exceptions but no-one is taking advantage of them.
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2 minutes ago, SydneyRoosters said:
Yeah I agree, I’m sure he’ll start to mature as he gets older though. I’ve met him a few times and he is a top bloke and he’s only trying to protect his mates.
Agreed. I love the way he plays but I am sure he will look back on those two and realise he didn't need to do either.
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2 minutes ago, Davo5 said:
There was very little in either of the incidents that led to Radley’s sin bins,especially given the amount of rubbish going on during the game.
Burgess’s high shot on Tedesco was poor & easily the worst of the 3 he did and seemed to be a reaction to being hammered by the Roosters defence,just another chapter in the book of feuds I guess.
Exactly. Very little in either and he got himself binned. Very poor discipline.
You can't throw a punch in the modern game (no matter how **** poor the punch is) and you can't run in 3rd man. He knows this and yet still did it. As I say, he has poor discipline and needs to sort it out.
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23 minutes ago, SydneyRoosters said:
Definitely agree I can’t believe people are on here talking about radley’s discipline, Yet there throwing a blind eye to burgess’s three high tackles and disgusting behaviour.
Anyway, the reason why I bring up Radley is the nature of the incidents. I have defended Radley in the past as some of his send off's/bans have been from playing on the edge and putting his body on the line. I am ok with that, I like watching him play and he is all in and all action.
But today, his binnings were just daft - losing his head. The first was a silly punch after the ball had gone and the second running in and starting a push and shove contest. He didn't need to do either and they were not in the heat of a fast play. That's the kind of stuff he could easily cut out.
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3 minutes ago, SydneyRoosters said:
Chest High and then slid up. You’ve got to be joking That’s the funniest thing I’ve heard all year. His forearm landed straight flush on lodges nose. He’s an absolute grub and players like him Should be frowned upon.
I have just been back to have a look at it. It was reckless yes, but I with the commentary team on that one - contact was initially off the ball/ball carrying arm and then up into the head.
His first one on Tedesco was worse.
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9 minutes ago, Davo5 said:
I’m more concerned with Burgess’s reaction to being physically dominated when he came on,he certainly didn’t miss any heads.
He was hardly physically dominated. He was met with some huge tackles but got straight back up and into it. Then later went right over the top of Crichton.
His shot on Tedesco was poor but the one he was binned for was chest high and then slid up.
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20 minutes ago, SydneyRoosters said:
you can’t blame him south’s entire game plan was to decapitate any player wearing red, white and blue and milk every penalty.
So 4 minutes into the game the 'entire' game plan of South's got to him.
He needs to tidy up his discipline if he is going to be a proper top line player. He needs to take a look at how Cameron Murray plays the game and learn a few lessons.
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I like the way Radley plays but his discipline was awful today.
He deserved his first sin bin as he threw a punch... a terrible punch but a punch all the same (at least let a decent one go if you are going to be punished).
And he deserved his second card for rushing in after an innocuous hand on face from a Rabbitoh player.
Neither of these were Radley on the edge looking for big hits.... they were just daft actions. He needs to sort it out.
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19 minutes ago, M j M said:
I'm out of the UK and couldn't be bothered working out a VPN so listened to The Continuous Call Team.
Would it surprise anyone that they were flabbergasted and felt Klein had lost the plot?
Doesn't surprise me at all.
All I could see on that pitch were players losing the plot. Klein was the only one with a cool head out there.
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6 minutes ago, gingerjon said:
Also so glad we get the Fox coverage here. All those quotes from the commentary team slagging off the ref came from the Nine coverage. Not a word of criticism for the ref on Fox.
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1 minute ago, gingerjon said:
Oh well, there you go.
The players act like idiots on both sides of the world and the ref gets the blame.
Depressing.
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Heard on the commentary this morning that Tom Burgess became the 5th most all time games played for the Rabbitohs this morning.
That's some achievement.
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Just finished watching the NRL elimination play off game between the Rabbitohs and Roosters this morning.
7 sin bins. Players running in to melee after melee mouthing off at each other.
The whole game was chaotic from start to finish.
No one blamed the ref.
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England Squad
in The General Rugby League Forum
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And to add... summed up for me with Sam Walker (8 stone wet through) going into a ruck and shoving people around. Imagine doing that in the days when he would have got a proper dig.