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8 hours ago, BallPlayingProp said:
Pangai with a dog shot on Cronk last night. Think the comparisons with Taumalolo are overblown personally. JT was way ahead of him at that age and had already won a Dally M.
Think Broncos are looking really shaky. Boyd looks half the player and their halves are erratic. No organisation
https://twitter.com/NRLonNine/status/1113735860665573376
It was a dirty shot by Pangai on Cronk and he deserves a ban.
The commentators did point out though that Cronk's injury in the photo was not the result of the Pangai incident.
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2 hours ago, MattSantos said:
Pangai should play 13. Move Gillett back to the edge.
None of it matters unless they sign a 7
When Lodge and Haas are back in the mix I hope Seibold does move Pangai to 13.
I think Nikorima and Milford can do a job for the Broncos, I expect them to improve as they play more under their new coach.
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On 3/31/2019 at 8:43 PM, ghost crayfish said:
Yeah the evolution of the no. 13 role into a third prop has been one of the more annoying parts of the game in the last decade. It's great to see that shifting again now. It's not just with the younger 13s either; Brisbane putting Gillette at 13 is another example. He's a smaller forward, but has skill, footwork, mobility - all things that used to be essential for 13.
I think Gillett has struggled in the middle of the park. He only made 58 run meters last week which is not food enough for a middle forward when you look at what some of the other 13's are achieving this year.
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John Bateman picked up three Dally M points for his performance for Canberra against Newcastle this week. Josh Hodgson picked up one point.
Both Bateman and Sam Burgess sit on 5 points after round 3 and they are both just behind Robbie Farah and Cameron Munster who lead the way on 6 points each.
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All four of the Canberra Raiders brits did well this morning.
Bateman stood out again topping the metres made for the game and tackles made for Canberra. He also made two line breaks.
Hodgson was scheming at dummy half - could have had four try assists in the first 20 minutes but two tries were chalked off.
Whitehead was his usual consistent self and Ryan Sutton went well in his first NRL start.
Canberra are two for three to start the year and could be real contenders if they had a couple of half backs.
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Sam Burgess is up to joint second in the Dally M leader board after a 3 point performance against the Dragons to add to the two points he picked up against the Roosters.
He trails Robbie Farrah who is the only player on 6 points after two Man of the Match performances in the opening two rounds.
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30 minutes ago, ELBOWSEYE said:
I do like him and rate him,but if he was an Aussie in that game he would not receive as much attention, but the conditions were terrible and lots of players struggled but his handling was solid.
He topped the metres gained for the match and was also the Raiders top tackler in an 80 minutes effort. I do agree that the fact he was on debut and an Englishman playing his first NRL game increased his attention but his performance would have stood out whatever the circumstances.
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A good Round 1 for the NRL brits.
Three of them picked up Dally M points - Sam Burgess (2 points) for Souths and John Bateman (2 points) and Josh Hodgson (1 point) for Canberra.
Tom Burgess was strong up front for Souths while James Graham and Gareth Widdop went reasonably well in a losing St George team.
Bateman started his NRL career with a boom game and many thought he was man of the match (surprised he didn't pick up the 3 Dally M points) while Ryan Sutton was solid off the bench.
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2 minutes ago, Davo5 said:
Hodgson,Whitehead and Bateman named in Canberra's starting 13 with Sutton on the bench.
They face up against a very decent forward pack at the Titans, it will be a good test of where the Raiders are at.
8. Jarrod Wallace
9 Nathan Peats
10 Shannon Boyd
11 Kevin Proctor
12 Ryan James
13 Jai Arrow
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23 minutes ago, roughyedspud said:
Genuine question..
Does anyone know anymore about his "English mum" cos the way it's worded in that article I saw,to me,it looks like its a step mum and not his maternal mum..
I agree the wording is ambiguous but in the context of the point he was making it seems reasonable.
He is saying that even though he was born and brought up in New Zealand the cultural influences of Samoa and England are there from his parents.
No point saying (in this context) "I was raised by my mum" so it was either 'raised by an English woman' or 'raised by my mum who is English"... but it seems strange to say raised by your mum as that is usually a given.
Wikipedia states that he has a Samoan father and English mother and as there is no reference to an extended family I assumed biological relationships.
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6 minutes ago, DavidM said:
See Jordan Pereira is the latest today to say he’d play for England ...or NZ ... or Samoa
He was born in New Zealand to a Samoan father and English mother. I would say it is perfectly fine that he is eligible to play for each of these three countries.
Having not been in such a position myself (born in England to English parents), I am in no position to understand his feeling belonging, identity, loyalty and preference for each of these countries. These things are very personal and always individual.
Whether he is good enough (for any of these countries) is a different question.
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11 minutes ago, MattSantos said:
Cant be bothered to look elsewhere; what position does Farnworth play?
Radley at Easts is British?
Bateman will go well in the middle.
Can't wait for season to start
Full back and wing
Born in Sydney but eligible through his English dad if he puts his hand up
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Leigh’s Kevin Ashcroft (left) and his son - team mascot Gary - celebrate the 1971 Challenge Cup final win with Peter Smethurst.
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Does anyone have a status update on Andre Savelio. He was named (and played I think) in the first Broncos trial and then hasn't been named again - including the extended interchange bench for this weeks final trial against the Titans. I would have thought that after a full season out the staff would want to give him some decent game time.
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My last comment was a light hearted quip.
He has already played for England youth so he is definitely going to be an English rep if he is good enough. He is only young so need to put pressure on him too soon, none of us know how good he is going to be.
Looking at his Norths Devils profile to find his age, I notice he is listed as being born in March 2018 and officially 0 years of age. Now that's a prodigy.
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10 minutes ago, ghost crayfish said:
There certainly is a bit of buzz coming through about this bloke now. Brisbane were happy to let Kahu go, which suggests they think this guy is up to the job. He's got a quality back three ahead of him, but he's probably the next in line now.
Is Corey Oates still touting for a move to the back row, maybe that offers a chance for Farnworth?
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I'm a bit worried about the interview with Farnworth though… when he talks about Darius Boyd he says "I look up to Boydy heaps"
Surely anybody who uses the word 'heaps' is destined to play for Australia!
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A feature on Farnworth on NRL.com
https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/02/22/farnworths-epic-journey-from-red-devils-to-red-hill/
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3 minutes ago, AB90 said:
You have a valid point. But im 99% sure that if George and Sam live in Sydney for the rest of their lives, therefore their kids are born and bred Aussies (with an aussie mother) they would naturally identify as far more Australian than English.
Yes, I think you are right. If the Burgess babies grow up in Australia then I expect they will 'feel' more Australian than English. But who knows, (if they play sport at all) they may decide to represent England as a homage to their dads and indeed their grandad Mark who was a Rugby League player and would no doubt be remembered by the whole family.
In some ways, being away from a country could heightens a sense of patriotism and the Burgess kids may have it drilled into them from a young age with English Rugby jerseys, caps and medals (we hope) around the house that they will be English League players.
I would be ok with whichever choice the kids make. My daughter is born and is being raised in the UK but she has an Italian mother and a very strong connection to the Italian side of the family. I would expect her to identify as both English and Italian in equal measure.
This is all ridiculous speculation of course but my point is that identity is a very personal thing and the factual stuff like place of birth is the tip of the iceberg.
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2 hours ago, AB90 said:
He can do both if he's good enough (play Origin and Internationals). NSW and the Kangaroos. He's Australian. End of conversation.
Even if the rules were changed he would only be allowed to play for one country. We are all assuming a born and bred aussie would shun playing for Australia just to represent his Dads country of birth. Highly doubtful.
Identity and nationality could be more complicated than just saying he is Australian. George and Sam Burgess have both had kids in Australia, in about 18 years should we expect all of the Burgess kids to turn out for Australia?
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6 minutes ago, Exiled Wiganer said:
I thought that Sutton was lined up to play in the Canberra first team,
He definitely is. Canberra have lost both Shannon Boyd and Junior Paulo so they needed to strengthen the front row
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Hope Savelio goes well... such bad luck to have his whole season wiped out last year before NRL round 1.
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17 minutes ago, bobbruce said:
Never heard of Farnworth what’s the story with him how old was he when he went?. Did he ever play for a club over here or has he come through the Aussie system?.
Bit of both. Been going over to Australia (Brisbane) to develop since age 15 or so but has played junior rugby in the UK and for England youth.
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Arranging kick off's about 100 minutes before sunset with no floodlights could be an alternative to the shot clock.
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Brits in the NRL
in The General Rugby League Forum
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The four English lads in the Canberra pack went well today. They were up against a Cowboys pack where the three middle forwards were Kangaroos and the two edge forwards were Queensland State of Origin reps and came out on top.