Lowdesert
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1 hour ago, The Rocket said:
Does it get any better, just spent an hour and a half being enthralled by that, what a sport. I`ll swear though, the game was a better spectacle when there wasn`t the `working` like we get in the tackle these days, even just those few seconds just seems to open up the game so much more.
And all we have to do is play to the Laws.
Sick of saying the coaches, officials and players have exacerbated the problem too.
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Genuine question. Can anyone tell me exactly what the RFL (SL or any other body) exactly have done, or planned, to entice crowds to the 3 Tests?
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Worth looking at the comments section. Was this the same game?
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4 minutes ago, M j M said:
It's a lot more productive and worthwhile reading this thread if you just stick SUPERSTUD on mute.
I’m ok with the comments. Posters are free to feel as depressed as they like.
Quite easily, if TJ grasps the ball and Lewis has some support, we are looking at a big win.
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Wane doesn’t have to look for much motivation when you get the comments that Woolf and Fonua Blake in the last week.
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Seems that win has created severe depression in some posters
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1 hour ago, graveyard johnny said:
liam marshall? is he injured?
My 3 choices for right wing would’ve been Young, Makinson and Marshall.
Marshall has put a little more bulk on and is also quick and brim full of confidence.
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51 minutes ago, PREPOSTEROUS said:
So if Trinity currently score 0.5 for Belle Vue than we could be up an extra point for next season on the provisional grading, albeit we lose on others.
Sorry, I’m late to the thread but what did Wakey ground actually score?
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2 minutes ago, Leonard said:
I have volunteered - I took notes of the %'s sold for each section yesterday.
A bit of movement - but not a surge in sales by any means.
The two random seats in the upper tier of the main stand seem to have gone though !
Yeah, I checked on those two as well. After a phone call it seems they were taken up by someone from Bedfordshire and a ‘Claire’ from Bath.
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19 minutes ago, The Blues Ox said:
Im still amazed that pro teams are just allowed to sign up nearly every junior who has looked at a ball at popular amateur clubs from the age of about 12 instead of looking at performance acadamies and then trying to force some sort of even spread of talent. That might work as a way of levelling up but as per your Wigan, Leeds, Hudds type teams who are notorious for it would be dead against it.
Education might be the key. By that I mean improving the standard of education available to a young player through pro clubs. I say this based on quite a few instances I know of (one a relative) of young persons opting for a better standard of education over staying at the pro club for a lesser qualification (for them) and the chance to play pro RL.
There has been some improvement in options but not being involved now I am unsure of factual Club offerings.
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20 hours ago, SUPERSTUD said:
Well I will be the first to say jobs for the boys! Steve Mills background is as an analyst. Individual player match day stats etc. I will stand corrected but I do not believe he has any previous salary cap recruitment type credentials. Believe me DP will have the say on this. Four year contracts for both DP and SM are frightening. I would have allocated two years with a further two years in club favour. IMHO DP was not in a massive stronghold bargaining position after his Warrington debacle. He will baffle Ellis and get his own men in. Crowther physio on his way. Did not follow him to Wire because too far to travel from Kippax. I expect Sheridan and Shenton to be announced next. This new era is going to be very interesting.
Why would Shelton want to go from running Hulls academy to Wakefield?
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Just now, Dave T said:
I disagree. But even directly behind is obstruction.
Didn’t Wane make a comment that, that try was ‘never a try’? I thought he did.
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12 hours ago, UTK said:
Just finished up watching on delay, very good test.
As I'd predicted at the start of the thread, Woolf selecting Hopoate at fullback killed any chance of an upset, bloke was absolutely putrid and is 1/10th the player of Koula at this point in time. Don't see this changing given Hoppa senior is obviously well-involved in that setup and Woolf loves junior despite the overwhelming evidence against him. Forward rotations were pretty poor, Olakau'atu is arguably their best backrower yet didn't see the field for the first 52 minutes
Mikey Lewis - what a debut, he absolutely killed Tonga on that edge was MOTM without doubt. Loved seeing his post-game interview and him interacting with what was presumably his family in the crowd.
England's middles were stellar against a quality Tonga side - Matty Lees in particular led linespeed through that first 20 and brought AFB and Fotuaika to a halt, Burgess and McMeeken the strongest carrying the ball, Hill probably the only weak link in the middle.
TJ was brilliant, King defended very well alongside him given how much Tonga sent down that edge - wasn't much danger of Harry Smith making a tackle on his own so he effectively had to cover both the centre and the backrower which was no small task against Koloamatangi and Penisini.
Only complaint is that I've gotta wait a week til the next game.
Good overview.
Maybe the warmer climate at Catalans has suited TJ’s leg muscles more but he certainly put in a shift as well as outpacing his opposite number in the first half.
The only player who I would like to have seen more involved in attack was Newman. Just didn’t happen for him.
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11 hours ago, hunsletgreenandgold said:
I think the main things that were noticeable to me were Moore not picking up on barely an English foot attempting to play the ball (apart from some of our NRL contingent) compared to Tonga. We know SL is lazy with that but can’t be let go at international level imo. Then, as per Woolf’s alleged ‘analysis’ in his presser - it did feel like Tonga were being called off tackles and/or giving away repeat sets for less holding down than England. Woolf reckons a full second difference on average - I’d be interested to see that analysis. There was a pretty blatant obstruction/crossing that nearly saw Burgess go over. As I say, these are all common game issues but you invite this level of scrutiny when the referee not only referees in a league where most of one team play, but is also from that country. Surely wouldn’t have been hard to get an Aus/NZ ref.
edit: not unsurprisingly the first NRL article I’ve seen about the game focuses on AFB and Woolf not been happy about the calls they did/didn’t get. I know teams moan when they lose but I myself raised this because I think there’s some merit in them feeling slightly aggrieved. The worry now is whoever refs next week will have all this going on in their mind, no matter how professional they are.
https://www.nrl.com/news/2023/10/23/i-dont-feel-like-they-beat-us-tonga-lament-mistakes-in-first-test-defeat/Some good points mate but if we’re looking for perfection humans are the wrong species to deliver it.
I thought Moore did ok. He could have quite easily sent off the Tongan forward for his running in at the melee late in the game. No mention of that in the nrl press or from Woolf.
id say we are making the game all about the referees and not the players. Do we really need the referee to tell players when to roll away? Are coaches absolving themselves of any responsibility to coach playing to the Laws?The control of the ruck should be absolutely down to the Laws of the game not an ‘interpretation’ imo.
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From the NrL website
Couple of points from this. 1. Woolf also made comments on the way the game was controlled and 2. Tonga knew Lewis was a ‘runner’ .
Im quite happy with the bleating
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10 minutes ago, dkw said:
Ah right, geo survey has always just meant geological to me, just an interpretation of the wording really.
Wasn't Odsal built on old pit, if so then they're going to have to pile very deep to get to decent soil to build on if anyone wants to develop the land. I'm on a project now building in an old quarry and we had to go down about 14 metres, the costs were eye
Cfa?
tbf to les, it’s semantics and just what you specify. The ‘training ground’ next to Odsal certainly was weird soil, stones, gravel and regularly caused infected cuts. Obvs some time ago so it could’ve been improved since then.
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14 hours ago, dkw said:
Yeah all a geo survey does is tell you the character of the soil, the stratas and minerals in it.
A toxicological report will tell you if it's contaminated.
The geotech survey will tell you whatever you request. Toxicology, angles of repose, soil types, archaeology etc etc.
The issue I have is that just saying the soil is contaminated is guesswork.
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15 hours ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said:
Err no. A geological survey is completely different to a ground contamination survey
A geotechnical survey.
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1 hour ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said:
A quick search suggests that contaminants are 'unknown' but probably (likely) toxic so remediation costs likely to be high (the nearby disused tip requires some £7m for remediation). There are also reports that geological concerns potentially rule out landfill for filling up the bowl.
My statement still stands Les. This element has been discussed a few times though.
Any geo survey worth its salt would have identified exactly what the ground comprises of. No guesswork.
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3 minutes ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said:
During one of the insolvency episodes there was lots of talk that there is significant ground contamination when it was suggested that someone might buy the Club to primarily get their hands on the land to make money from its development. How true I've no idea.
Just depends with what and to what level but it doesn’t mean it can’t be remediated.
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1 hour ago, Derwent said:
Not necessarily. There may be an element of forward planning and he sees Welsby as captain material for the 2026 World Cup when he will have matured a bit.
I don’t think Wane is looking that far ahead!
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3 hours ago, Dave T said:
A lot of good players in that squad, but agreed about the halves.
4 of them, if we count Welsby as I think he’ll come into the halves as games progress anyway.
Lewis can be there for years if he concentrates on his game more.
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28 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:
I would be totally piffed off if I was a Salford fan, especially one who donated money to the cause, who's next do you reckon, Brierley, Watkins or even Rowley?
Haven’t Salford signed nene McDonald?
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1 hour ago, Bring back the Boyd said:
I’ve not posted on the forum for a while. I’m 60 years old and have loved the game since being a kid and for the first time ever, I have enjoyed watching the NRL far more than our own domestic competition.
I think what frustrates me is the amount of laying on and slowing down of the play the ball, coupled with teams abusing the six again rule which results in a total lack of momentum in many games. Whenever a “ weaker “ team makes a break, by using the above tactics, it allows the “ stronger “ team to reset their defence and then use their superiority in attack to win games. Granted, this year the games appear to have been closer but still the main suspects have been top at the business end of the season.
Make the play the ball quicker and the game more exciting againI think several of us on here think the ruck is a mess. To compound it, players actually look at the referee to await the signal to get off/clear it.
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Who is the scariest player you've ever seen play RL?
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I would say that was a good call, especially if he was coming in at speed. He would also come under the ‘biggest nutcase’ category.